How is this any different that taking a sledgehammer to her laptop other than the fact that by taking that route you could possibly still be able to salvage a lot of the internal parts? Exploding hollow point rounds...not so much. There is no coming back from that.
Exploding point hollow tipped rounds or sledgehammer, either teach an equally fantastically valueless message: "you upset me I will make your life hell". He is playing the oneupmanship game all wrong, and teaching his daughter that the solution to dealing with difficult people is theatrics. Result: he has now issued a challenge to her to become a crazier teenage girl to cope with her crazy parent.
I agree angel, even though it was a flagrant justification to shoot something, it wasn't about violence or intimidation... he never even hinted that he would cause her any physical pain or suffereing, simply as much humiliation as he could possibly dole out (and I personally think it was a bit of a fail).
I saw the daughter's response to the father and she seemed to take it in stride, laughing about it and admitting her wrong with the family moving on. You can see the timeline here. The fact that he wouldn't profit off of it and admitted there were far better issues to focus on...gives him credit with me.
After watching the video, and then, reading the above link, kudos to the guy.
I was expecting a screaming match and a guy shooting a laptop right infront of his kid on camera. he explained why, he was calm, and then actually sat and talked with his daughter. (at least according to the article)
When I was a kid I loathed getting nice gifts for christmas/birthdays because I knew they were only there to be taken away and rarely given back. No explanation, no common talking grounds between us, and I would have NEVER asked for anything of value because I'd have never deserved it, and should I have gotten it, it would have been taken from me immediately for leaving a light on.
This guy doesn't seem that bad, he seems level headed, and while it does seem odd to shoot a laptop, I didn't find his actions offensive so much as mildly amusing.
Exploding point hollow tipped rounds or sledgehammer, either teach an equally fantastically valueless message: "you upset me I will make your life hell". He is playing the oneupmanship game all wrong, and teaching his daughter that the solution to dealing with difficult people is theatrics. Result: he has now issued a challenge to her to become a crazier teenage girl to cope with her crazy parent.
How does this differ from any other punishment? When raising kids, you need to punish them for being out of line, whether it is breaking the rules, talking back to their mother, or not doing their homework. If the punishment does not "hurt" (that is, is not something that makes their life unpleasant) it does not work. While I would not have used this method, I agree with the general idea about punishment as one aspect of teaching.
So for those that object, what should have been done, recognizing that she was a repeat offender?
How does this differ from any other punishment? When raising kids, you need to punish them for being out of line, whether it is breaking the rules, talking back to their mother, or not doing their homework. If the punishment does not "hurt" (that is, is not something that makes their life unpleasant) it does not work. While I would not have used this method, I agree with the general idea about punishment as one aspect of teaching.
So for those that object, what should have been done, recognizing that she was a repeat offender?
I am by no means opposed to punishment, the goal isn't to make the punished one's life miserable its to teach consequences. In this case the consequence of her using facebook in a disrespectful manner towards her parents is that her dad makes a spectacle of himself all over youtube, inviting all kinds of attention (good and bad) and destroying family property in a cool and fun way (after complaining about all the money and time he just spent upgrading it). Seems to me he punished himself more than his daughter.
I am by no means opposed to punishment, the goal isn't to make the punished one's life miserable its to teach consequences. In this case the consequence of her using facebook in a disrespectful manner towards her parents is that her dad makes a spectacle of himself all over youtube, inviting all kinds of attention (good and bad) and destroying family property in a cool and fun way (after complaining about all the money and time he just spent upgrading it). Seems to me he punished himself more than his daughter.
Well, you at least need some amount of misery for there to be a consequence, but that is probably just picking at words.
Having said that, your analysis of the consequences here is much closer to the truth (in my opinion) than your previous comment. I would not have done this, but the idea that doing so sent the message that the father would make her life a living hell was over the top. That he went farther than I would have (I'd have just taken it away) does not make it some hell for the teenager.
I thought it was a little over the top, but especially reading the updates, it seems like it was received well. Not something I'd do, but then again parents always have the best read on their kids.
I get the sense both he and his daughter learned something positive based on the experience, which is even better.
This is the silliest advice I ever heard. If we all did that, there would be nothing to discuss on these boards. We might actually have to interact with the real world!
This is the silliest advice I ever heard. If we all did that, there would be nothing to discuss on these boards. We might actually have to interact with the real world!
Well, at least the stuff we deal with on this board is related to the person posting it.
Well, at least the stuff we deal with on this board is related to the person posting it.
But none of us are real people, right? I mean, I am just a 5'3, 318 lb. guy who is 28 and living in his mother's basement helping her take care of her cats in between my paper route. Everyone else is like that too, right? Right ?!?!