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Old 04-04-2012, 02:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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People simply do not understand what the scientific meaning of what a working 'theory' is.

This makes the tennessee lawmakers look like idiots, and rightfully so. They are spinning it as if they are encouraging 'critical thinking' (which is sorely lacking in general education, I say).. but that is simply duck and cover here, methinks.

These are the same people that say 'why are there still monkeys if evolution is correct'?

Tenn. governor 'probably' will sign evolution bill - Yahoo! News
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What is that??? Is this what our tax money is going for in our state? Holy sh!t, what a fvcking waste. Sorry, but I've not heard of this until now (it didn't make our front page in our newspaper).

What is it? A law that will allow debate in a public school system? I didn't know we had an all religious school system here, and what now, they need a law to allow debate over scientific facts?

Yeah, this makes our state look extremely stupid.
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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TEN is not alone... they are copying other like minded places...

Its all in the name of 'Academic Freedom'.

Louisiana passes first antievolution "academic freedom" law
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Missouri:

http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking...ro/HB0195I.htm
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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New Mexico:

HB0302

'controversial scientific topics'. You know. Like Evolution.
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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ahhh.... general info:

Academic Freedom bills - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

from wiki.. sort of agrees with my thoughts on the matter...

Rather than calling for teaching intelligent design or Biblically-based creationism (as previous legislative attempts have), the bills make no mention of these subjects. They instead describe evolution as controversial and attempt to bar school administrators from interfering with teachers who describe asserted flaws in the theory. This runs contrary to the opinion of the scientific community, which holds that there is no debate about the core principles of evolution, which scientists regard as the only credible, and a thoroughly tested, scientific explanation for the development and diversification of all life on Earth.
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Old 04-04-2012, 03:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I couldn't read past what started this series of bills...

2001: Santorum Amendment
2004: Alabama bill
2005: Alabama bill
2006: Alabama, Oklahoma, Maryland bills; Ouachita Parish School Board policy (Louisiana)
2007: New Mexico bill
2008: Discovery Institute petition and model statute; Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed released; Florida, Louisiana, Missouri, Alabama, Michigan, South Carolina bills; Louisiana bill passed
2009: Iowa, Oklahoma, Missouri, New Mexico, Alabama bills
2010: Mississippi, Missouri, Kentucky, Oklahoma, South Carolina,
2011: First attempt at repealing the Louisiana Science Education Act, bills in Texas, Kentucky, Florida, Tennessee, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Missouri
2012: Attempt to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act, Tennessee's bill passes, bills in Oklahoma, Alabama, New Hampshire, Indiana
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I just don't get it.. why pick a fight with evolution?

I am painfully aware that we assume we know everything at our own peril, but you know what? Picking a fight with science via religion is kind of a losing game. That same movie has been playing over and over again for hundreds of years.

Off topic... but very much worth a watch.... TED talk 'on being wrong'... it does make you consider your assumptions and the reasons for them. More people need to see this...

Kathryn Schulz: On being wrong - YouTube
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Old 04-04-2012, 05:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
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So I've thought about it.... Is this about a teacher being protected if he/she interjects their own religious beliefs to debate what's being taught? To pretty much dispute evolution even as they're teaching it?
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I suppose that's part of it, yes. The problem of course is teaching that something like evolution is 'just a theory', which to some, puts it on equal footing with something like intelligent design.

Part of the disconnect, to me... Is that Science is not a thing... It is a verb... And a theory is not a guess, it is a falsifiable hypothesis supported by evidence.
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The solution to all this consists of two parts, only:

1. Require an IQ test for politicians. Anyone wishing to run for public office must demonstrate that he possesses an IQ of at least 80.

2. Require any aspiring politician to disclose all of his assets and where they came from. This is, after all, only what they require of any man arbitrarily divorced by his wife, under their own "no-fault" divorce laws, and the man being divorced is not even running for office!

These steps should reduce the number of uneducated fools and greedy, self-promoting jackasses seeking to "suck from the public teet" by at least 50%!

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Old 04-05-2012, 09:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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...This is, after all, only what they require of any man arbitrarily divorced by his wife, under their own "no-fault" divorce laws, and the man being divorced is not even running for office!...
Sour Grapes.

I can buy into the IQ test though.
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