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Old 04-23-2012, 01:32 PM   #46 (permalink)
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How would you feel if your neighbor started building an addition to his house on your property? How would you then feel if, in response to your complaints, he insisted that he would be glad to negotiate the “issue” with you, but that the construction would have to continue during the negotiations? Would you be willing to talk to such a neighbor about this within earshot of the construction sounds and within view of his gang of armed thugs deployed to provide “security“ for the construction workers?

The above scenario is a valid analogy to the Israeli “settlements“ situation in the area, with these settlements spreading all over the Middle East, even into countries which were never part of Palestine or historical Israel. This is furthermore an example of the “chutzpah” I mentioned which, as always, is defended by the Zionists with claims of a need for security, backed with that same old, worn out shiboleth about “Never again…”


I predict that it will only be a matter of time until we are dragged into a war in Iran, by Israel, and with not even one Israeli soldier deployed to help us. The view in both Tel Aviv and Washington is that any direct military involvement, by Israel, would (correctly) cause this to be seen by the American people as merely another war to defend Israel, and expand its interests and influence, at the cost of American lives and treasure.

Instead of this war being initiated by any overt action by Israel, some incident---probably a “false flag” operation---or, alternatively, (more) manufactured “intelligence “ will be used to justify an exclusively American attack on the country which will be explained to the people as simply another step in the “War on Terror”, to protect the U.S. as well as its necessary supply of oil from the region. As usual, the real benefactor will be Israel and its ultimate plan to continue expansion in the area until it has, at last, created its dreamed of “Greater Israel” which will encompass the entire Middle East!

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Do any of you feel this way? What do most of you think when you hear of people who do not believe? Are any members of your family survivors?
I think the actual numbers don`t matter.

Once you get into "millions" of humans slaughtered for dogma the exact body count is a moot point.
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:06 PM   #49 (permalink)
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seriously ... is this still being discussed?

Galt I support your right to free speech, but talking about Israel today and the many issues there is getting off topic.

Topic is: holocaust fact or fiction, I think no one has presented any doubt excepting possibly one large number instead of an even larger number.

So call me crazy but I think the topic concluded... it is fact.
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And if you maintain that it didn't happen, then where did all those people go?
I suspect one person thinks they all became divorce judges.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:40 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I suspect one person thinks they all became divorce judges.
Yes, either divorce court judges, lawyers, doctors, movie magnates, publishers, stand-up comedians, pornographers or wall street operators.

Conclusion: as that takes care of at least the entire six million, there could not have been a holocaust. Topic closed!
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I think the far right and far left are not all that different. Totalitarianism is the same no matter the ideology.
When the "far right" and the "far left" work full circle, they meet at a strategem called "totalitarianism." And once there, you'll find that the dividing line between the two is absolutely gossamer thin! Always seem to remember that from my college polisci professor!
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Yes, either divorce court judges, lawyers, doctors, movie magnates, publishers, stand-up comedians, pornographers or wall street operators.

Conclusion: The Jews control the banks, courts and media, we should have another holocaust

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When the "far right" and the "far left" work full circle, they meet at a strategem called "totalitarianism." And once there, you'll find that the dividing line between the two is absolutely gossamer thin! Always seem to remember that from my college polisci professor!
The only difference is no one in the dominant media identifies anything as too far to the left.
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"The far left hates Israel, the far right hates the Jews"

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"The far left hates Israel, the far right hates the Jews, and the normal, hard -working people of the world have to put up with all four."


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I started this thread because I know there are many people here who are not from America. I don't want the American "spin" on things.

We all know it happened, it makes us all sick. But genocide is still going on in this world and no one is stopping it. Man's inhumanity to man will never end, I fear.
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Since this is MY thread, as the Original Poster I feel I have a right to hijack the thread and turn it in a new direction since I have some of your attention.

Tonight I downloaded what I thought was a Holocaust documentary, but it wasn't. The documentary was entitled "Holocaust" but it was mostly a man on a stage speaking to a Christian church about the holocaust of abortion.

In the beginning, he introduced some film footage that was filmed by a brave Nazi Christian in 1944 and said this man was killed for his film in 1945. When he went to the footage, IT WAS THE MOVIE SCHINDLER'S LIST, made to look more washed out and old so people would believe this was actual footage of the Holocaust. What really caught my attention, however, was every five minutes or so of this "actual footage" they would flash a ONE SECOND FRAME of an aborted fetus.

It is like they were trying to put an image in our subconscious but failed miserably because the footage was in black and white and the pic of the aborted fetus was in full color.

What do you all think of tactics like this? I find them abhorrent. The truth speaks for itself, if you feel the need to make things up and lie about history to further your cause, you are no better than the Nazi's.
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We all know it happened, it makes us all sick. But genocide is still going on in this world and no one is stopping it.
If you already knew the answer, why did you ask the question?

Yes, genocide is still going on; the genocide against the men of Western countries, as implemented by the modern divorce law of these countries!

BTW, am I "no better than a Nazi" because I believe that the fetus shown, in the film you mentioned, was a human being? I suppose I must be. It is a little known fact that abortion was ILLEGAL in Nazi Germany.

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If you already knew the answer, why did you ask the question?

Yes, genocide is still going on; the genocide against the men of Western countries, as implemented by the modern divorce law of these countries!

BTW, am I "no better than a Nazi" because I believe that the fetus shown, in the film you mentioned, was a human being? I suppose I must be. It is a little known fact that abortion was ILLEGAL in Nazi Germany.
Now things are getting cloudy and personal. This was not my intention. Nazis produced propaganda and this particular Christian church is producing propaganda to get their message out there. That was my comparison.
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