This is true. The “rest of the story” is that Roosevelt was Jewish, and he made Pearl Harbor so attractive, as an undefended target, that the Japanese could not resist it. Thus the U.S. was pulled into a war which we have still not finished paying for, essentially only to protect the Jews of Europe.
It is a little known fact that Churchill, as well as even Stalin, were also Jewish.
Right now all I can hear in my head is a melodic sounding Adam Sandler sing-saying "OJ Simpson? Not a Jew!"
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Rectitude--Courage--Benevolence--Respect--Honesty--Honor--Loyalty
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
"Why do we fall? So we might learn to pick ourselves up."
"It’s not who we are underneath, but what we do that defines us."
The world looked the other way when the Jewish people were being murdered. Many tried to flee persecution but they were turned away en mass from the boarders of many countries.
Millions of people could have been saved but the world pretended that the problem did not exist. Jewish people did not emigrate after the war and seek revenge against the Europe and the USA for abandoning them.
They accepted and became citizens of their adopted countries. They contributed intellectually, financially and philanthropically to the very people's who turned their backs.
The ultimate evil is to have what happened to them denied, to have their contributions to society devalued and to be dishonored by ignorant hate talk.
Hateful people have much to learn from the Jewish people - they teach the world over and over how to be humans, to accept, to love God despite what man does.
The Jewish people are a great people and I am glad they are in the world. I pray for their safety in these troubled reactionary times.
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Rectitude--Courage--Benevolence--Respect--Honesty--Honor--Loyalty
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
"Why do we fall? So we might learn to pick ourselves up."
"It’s not who we are underneath, but what we do that defines us."
I don't think the Holocaust is a fabrication. I was addressing Trenton's question of how people can care so much about the Jewish Holocaust, but not the other Holocausts. I also understand the point she was trying to make.
Catherine did do an excellent job though. Posted via Mobile Device
This is largely a factor of the parochialism of western news. In SE Asia Pol Pot and what he did is current history. In Burma, even though it's against the law, people do speak about the ethnic cleansing of the Karen People. In Nigeria, the extermination of the Ibo in the Biafran war is covered in some detail. The Kurds and the Armenians are trying to get the west to pay attention - something they've been fighting for a hundred years. Or that as many as 4 million people have been slaughtered in the Congo since the early 1990's (Commonly called Africa's World War). These things are commonly discussed not only because in some case they're STILL happening but because it has affected everyone. Most of the time though Western media, governments and bloggers and pundits are uninterested and uninformed.
For example who here knows that Egypt used chemical weapons in Yemen in 1962, Libya used them in Chad in the closing days of "the pickup truck war" or that 150,000 were killed not in the war of independence with the French but in a civil war against Islamists in the 1990's. Or that Western Sahara has experienced a multigenerational ethnic cleansing. Or that slavery, while technically illegal is still openly practiced across most of the Maghreb and Sahel. Or that for all his other warts, Egypt's Mubarek eliminated 90% of female genital mutilation and the new regime wants to bring that practice back. Or that the Arabs who controlled Libya were in the 10% minority of the indigenous population which is overwhelmingly Berber not Arab. Or that the Saudi kings are from Jordan and the Jordanian kings are Saudi. It's just a problem of focus and attention and what your 'trusted sources' are willing to cover.
Trenton I agree with you. The simple fact is this;
We didn't get involved in WWII until we were bombed, then we tried to play it like we went in to be "good people" and save the Jews from the evil Nazis. That is why everyone mourns the Holocaust. There are movies, books, it’s taught in school, etc, etc. It is shoved down your throat to make people forget that we didn't go over there because of the holocaust. We were perfectly happy, or at least the government was, to sit back because it didn’t directly affect us.
History is told/taught from a point of view that makes us (government) look good. We saved the Jews! It makes us (again, our government) look better to say we went to war because of the Holocaust rather than to say we went to war due to the fact that we were pulled in by Japan. History is always skewed depending on who tells it.
I hate to think about the awful things that happen in our world, but we can only help so much and most people don’t even know what is going on because it isn’t reported or talked about. The media doesn’t care, so the world doesn’t know/care. It isn’t constantly shoved in your face and I think a lot of people are desensitized to that kind of stuff anymore, especially when you consider that we only see it in passing. It is so common place in humanity that it doesn’t even make us blink. Also, a lot of people are of the mindset that we no longer want to sacrifice our young men and women for a cause that has nothing to do with us. If it isn’t happening to us, we notice enough to say, “that’s sad”, or, “we should do something about this”, but not enough to actually take action.
And really, how much could we do to stop these things from happening without the support of the US government…
You don't need to sacrifice our young men and women or even the older ones. Political pressure is powerful, extremely powerful and completely under utilized. Look at the Treyvon Martin case...
You can do other things as well. Right now I'm working on an Alice in Wonderland themed fundraiser. The quote we're theme'ing the event around is, "Sometimes I believe in as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
There's no doubt that it's a lack of passion, not fighting, that allows atrocities to continue.
There are many injustices in the world. Each person has a right to pick their battles.
I feel strongly about Jewish people because I grew up in a neighborhood with a large Jewish population. I played with Jewish kids. I picked up some Yiddish from their parents and grandparents. I got a taste for the food. My friends Grandmother made us chopped liver and challah bread almost every Fri. morning for a snack. I spent Jewish holidays with them, I know the words to the dreidel song.
When I went to professional school I met two of my mentors both are Jewish. Now that I am back in a big city, I work with many Jewish people. I feel at home.
With all of that, I would have to be a very ungrateful person to stand by listening to hate and not say anything. The people who hate the most are those who are failures and looking for a scapegoat for their inadequacies.
You will notice that none of them can say one thing that a Jewish person has done to them personally that would have lead them to feeling negatively. They have trumped-up paranoid delusions that they dream up while sitting around in their underwear in their basement. Isn't that strange?
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I don't think the Holocaust is a fabrication. I was addressing Trenton's question of how people can care so much about the Jewish Holocaust, but not the other Holocausts. I also understand the point she was trying to make.
Catherine did do an excellent job though.
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This is largely a factor of the parochialism of western news.
Yes, parochialism because there are more Jews in New York or Miami than in Tel Aviv.
If you are tired of world news and conflict reports which have to pass the political correctness test of the people who control the media in this country, I suggest you watch Press TV (Iran) or RT Today (Russia). No cable needed, only DSL or faster.
There are many injustices in the world. Each person has a right to pick their battles.
I feel strongly about Jewish people because I grew up in a neighborhood with a large Jewish population. I played with Jewish kids. I picked up some Yiddish from their parents and grandparents. I got a taste for the food. My friends Grandmother made us chopped liver and challah bread almost every Fri. morning for a snack. I spent Jewish holidays with them, I know the words to the dreidel song.
When I went to professional school I met two of my mentors both are Jewish. Now that I am back in a big city, I work with many Jewish people. I feel at home.
With all of that, I would have to be a very ungrateful person to stand by listening to hate and not say anything. The people who hate the most are those who are failures and looking for a scapegoat for their inadequacies.
You will notice that none of them can say one thing that a Jewish person has done to them personally that would have lead them to feeling negatively. They have trumped-up paranoid delusions that they dream up while sitting around in their underwear in their basement. Isn't that strange?
People who hate Jewish people hate because of there own failures and blame Jews on this. My family is from Macedonia and Jews taken out during the war. Rounded up and killed. My grand father watched his father killed in front of him and his mother raped. After the war was over it was the survivers that stood together and helped others out. This isnt different then Asians or Arabs. People who had to fight together to survive after war. Many didnt trust others and went to there people to help out. Years later culture of helping out with in the community stands. You help neighbor more than stranger and you help family or religion more than different, right? I dont say it is right I say it is what happens and why Jewish people are connected.
You help neighbor more than stranger and you help family or religion more than different, right? I dont say it is right I say it is what happens and why Jewish people are connected
That’s fine. A problem can arise, however, when this principle of “help your own first” applies to a country other than the country in which you live and have, theoretically, sworn your allegiance to.
This approach is even more problematical when someone considers himself to be a member of a “people“ to whom he owes a superior loyalty than that which he owes to the rest of the people of his country, particularly when it is one in which he was born and raised.
May I ask a question - to anyone OTHER than Galt...
Help me understand.
To be Jewish is to practice a religion - like being Catholic - yes?
But - unlike Catholics - we also identify Jews almost as a race/heritage/nationality.
So - to be "Jewish" can also be simliar to being "African American" or "Black" - right? We associate particular names, physical characteristics and sterotypes (both good and bad) with Jews.
BUT - unlike Blacks/African Americans or Catholics - Jews also have their own "country" or territory. Although they may be spread across the world, like African Americans or Catholics, there is one particular country that we associate with them (Israel).
So - when someone speaks of "Jews" - am I correct that they are addressing a Religion, a Race/Heritage/Nationality, and often times the nation of Israel as well?
And one more question - that I think is relateable. If the "Jews" in the United States exert such an incredible influence, why have we never had a Jewish president? I can name one Catholic and one Black President - but none have been Jewish - correct?
I know I could go to Wikipedia - but just thought this kind of clarification might actually help others here as well.
Thanks...and hope I haven't offended anyone with my ignorance.
nd one more question - that I think is relateable. If the "Jews" in the United States exert such an incredible influence, why have we never had a Jewish president? I can name one Catholic and one Black President - but none have been Jewish - correct?
Why become a puppet when you can easily control it?
I think that there are genes that are common to Jewish people even those that are separated geographically.
There are admixtures of genes but genes common to Jewish people ate identifiable.
I think the reasons may be that their religious beliefs discourage marrying nonJews. Also, Jewish people have been ostracized and not welcomed to assimilate.
It is a religion and a culture. Even a person who is non- Jewish will identify as Jewish.
Part of Jewish tradition is to be a good person and help ones fellow man, Jews and non-Jews. That is considered required in the eyes of God.
That is why Jewish people are such great philanthropist both on a global scale and personal scale.
In many communities, hospitals, research institutions, service organizations, social assistance organizations have been establish and are supported by a Jewish person or family or organization.
There are probably few people in the US who have not benifited by the generosity of these people. Lets say you did a George Baily and our country had no population of Jewish people.
What impact would that have on society.
To haters - if you hate Jewish people so much be consistent and honest. Shun all hospitals supported by Jewish philanthropist, don't buy products developed, don't go to entertainment supported, don't accept medical therapy developed, don't allow your kids to accept grants, don't frequent businesses owned by Jewish money.
You take advantage of the generosity of Jewish people but you are too lazy and ignorant to be anything but impotant hate mongers.
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