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Old 06-07-2012, 11:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am curious, what is the resolution, do away with football? This is a contact sport, who's fault is this? Would they have not played if they'd known how severe their injuries could be (they claim they didn't know)? Doubtful.

2,000 players unify in suing NFL over head injuries – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't really agree with you, Cherry -- the NFL has long had a history of downplaying player injuries, rejecting helmet designs that could mitigate headblows, fostering a "if you can walk you can play" culture, and not ensuring adequate insurance coverage to most players, much less retired players. I think it's a good case, but of course others can differ.
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I don't really agree with you, Cherry -- the NFL has long had a history of downplaying player injuries, rejecting helmet designs that could mitigate headblows, fostering a "if you can walk you can play" culture, and not ensuring adequate insurance coverage to most players, much less retired players. I think it's a good case, but of course others can differ.
I thought they came to agreements on all points during the lockout, including the insurance issue. As for the "if you can walk, you can play" culture, until just now, I thought it was the player who made that call. And after reading a little about what you posted, I can see it also has to do a lot with other aspects, such as being replaced easily if they show an injury bothers them (not just for that game either). I found this article that explains it, and it does make a bit more sense to me now...

Playing through injuries part of NFL players' culture - Ross Tucker - SI.com

So yeah, thank you for pointing it out, learn something new everyday!
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They may have swept a few things under the carpet over the years but football is still a DANGEROUS sport - always has been. So what's next.....fireman suing the fire dept for smoke inhalation damage, cops suing the police dept for getting shot at, NASCAR drivers suing that sport for getting whiplash in a race?
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They may have swept a few things under the carpet over the years but football is still a DANGEROUS sport - always has been. So what's next.....fireman suing the fire dept for smoke inhalation damage, cops suing the police dept for getting shot at, NASCAR drivers suing that sport for getting whiplash in a race?
I'd say there's a slight disconnect between equating vital emergency services and activities undertaken purely for entertainment purposes.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing professional sports disappear entirely, but that's not going to happen. American society puts too much importance on them, so while schools close because there's not enough money to keep the doors open, nobody bats an eye at adults being paid millions to play kids' games and/or beat one another into paste.
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American society puts too much importance on them, so while schools close because there's not enough money to keep the doors open, nobody bats an eye at adults being paid millions to play kids' games and/or beat one another into paste.
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That's pretty much across the board for America though. No one bats an eye for an actor/actress who gets paid millions to play a part in a story on the big screen. Who's driving that? Society as a whole is driving the entertainment industry. If we'd all quit paying to see these actors/actresses act or the players play, they wouldn't have an income... it's our fault, our priorities are pretty fvcked if you ask me.
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Hey Grayson you do realize that getting rid of all organized sports would create a multitude of problems everywhere, and not to be racist but it would be a crushing blow to millions in the inner cities who rely on their talents as athletes as a way to get them and their families out of there. It would also cause the divorce rate to skyrocket because there would be millions of disgruntled & bored husbands everywhere always in a pissy mood(myself included).
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Hey Grayson you do realize that getting rid of all organized sports would create a multitude of problems everywhere, and not to be racist but it would be a crushing blow to millions in the inner cities who rely on their talents as athletes as a way to get them and their families out of there.
What in the world was I thinking, suggesting that education would be a much better use of the billions spent on adults playing kids' games? Certainly enriching minds couldn't possibly benefit these "inner city" youths and their families.

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If the absence of being able to stare at sporting events would lead to the downfall of so many marriages, I dare say there are deeper issues in those marriages than the absence of professional sports.
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What in the world was I thinking, suggesting that education would be a much better use of the billions spent on adults playing kids' games? Certainly enriching minds couldn't possibly benefit these "inner city" youths and their families.



If the absence of being able to stare at sporting events would lead to the downfall of so many marriages, I dare say there are deeper issues in those marriages than the absence of professional sports.
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A lot of those kids are not blessed with great smarts but they are with tremendous physical abilities that no one else has; and I hate to break the news to ya but your wish of no sports will NEVER happen in this lifetime and probably not for at least another couple hundred years - thank God.
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A lot of those kids are not blessed with great smarts but they are with tremendous physical abilities that no one else has;
And that couldn't possibly be, at least in part, because those "inner city" schools are generally the most under-funded (except for the athletics department, thus perpetuating the cycle). How do we expect them to develop "great smarts" if they're being given a bargain basement education while simultaneously being told that the athletics program is the be-all end-all of the school?

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and I hate to break the news to ya but your wish of no sports will NEVER happen in this lifetime and probably not for at least another couple hundred years - thank God.
Wow, thanks for enlightening me. I wasn't aware of that. I mean, I certainly didn't say anything like, "Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing professional sports disappear entirely, but that's not going to happen. American society puts too much importance on them"

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I agree with Wing Man 100% on this issue.
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That's pretty much across the board for America though. No one bats an eye for an actor/actress who gets paid millions to play a part in a story on the big screen. Who's driving that? Society as a whole is driving the entertainment industry. If we'd all quit paying to see these actors/actresses act or the players play, they wouldn't have an income... it's our fault, our priorities are pretty fvcked if you ask me.
Yep. It's all just free market stuff. Kind of like people that complain about Walmart but still shop there. I realize the problems with that statement as well though.
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