Well in his defense, he did acknowledge and condemn the attacks including McKinney's claim about 9/11.
As for the other attacks on Bush, what do you want me to do? They were and are wrong. I have friend who actually started to make one of those comparisons. I cut him off and told him he was wrong. Since I don't own a newspaper, TV station, or have control over either, I am not sure what else I am supposed to do.
I will ask if the attacks comparing Obama and Hitler wrong? I have not seen either you or Conrad admit that. I do see a whole lot of playing the victim card and an implicit argument that since the other side started it, it is okay. I thought only Democrats did that.
As for the other attacks on Bush, what do you want me to do? They were and are wrong. I have friend who actually started to make one of those comparisons. I cut him off and told him he was wrong. Since I don't own a newspaper, TV station, or have control over either, I am not sure what else I am supposed to do.
I will ask if the attacks comparing Obama and Hitler wrong? I have not seen either you or Conrad admit that. I do see a whole lot of playing the victim card and an implicit argument that since the other side started it, it is okay. I thought only Democrats did that.
Relax, I acknowledged that you admitted the attacks on Bush were wrong. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of so many on the left condemning the comparison to Obama while being silent or even partaking in the comparison to Bush. You made your stance clear that it was equally wrong when done to Bush so you're not in that category. Call it playing the victim card if you must, I just see it as illustrating hypocrisy.
Both Bush and Obama have made political moves similar to Hitler's (as probably EVERY politician has) but to compare either of them to a mass murder is inherently wrong. Is that better?
Relax, I acknowledged that you admitted the attacks on Bush were wrong. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of so many on the left condemning the comparison to Obama while being silent or even partaking in the comparison to Bush. You made your stance clear that it was equally wrong when done to Bush so you're not in that category. Call it playing the victim card if you must, I just see it as illustrating hypocrisy.
Both Bush and Obama have made political moves similar to Hitler's (as probably EVERY politician has) but to compare either of them to a mass murder is inherently wrong. Is that better?
Much.
I do understand your point and agree on the hypocrisy. I do think hypocrisy is used to often as an excuse for bad behavior (by both sides). The Senate fillabuster is a great example.
I've admitted those things about Obama are wrong in THIS thread.
I do regret that our media is so in the tank for him that they simply refused to dig up his past.
For example, we hear about Mitt Romney being a bully in high school, but we hear nothing about Obama's mentor Frank Marshall Davis?
They're just in the tank for him.
That's the long and the short of it.
How was he his mentor? I have not seen anything credible beyond that Marshall knew his grandfather, but am certainly open to information. Edit - I also see that Obama may have visited his house, when he was fairly young (8-13) and Marshall was fairly old (in his 80s). The rest I have seen is a lot of speculation based on Obama's memoir. Is the more?
As far as the bullying, I don't think the actual act was the issue to me, so much as the cowardly reply. He neither confirmed or denied it, but merely said the equivalent of mistakes were made. Not exactly a really brave stance. Since that is Romney's current stance, I think it has some relevance (as opposed to the stupid dog thing).
Trying to avoid the ruckus at this point - but - no - I am not familiar with him.
Why do you ask?
He's was a professor who knew Obama at Occidental College and says that Obama was an actual communist.
Drew sees himself as the “missing link” between Obama’s time with Frank Marshall Davis and with later radicals like Bill Ayers and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Drew himself was a Marxist back then and Obama was introduced to him as a fellow Marxist—as “one of us.” Drew reports Obama’s belief in the “Frank Marshall Davis fantasy of revolution.”
Of course, this doesn't mean Obama is a communist now - and I don't claim that he is.
Yet, his words this past weekend about how people who own businesses shouldn't think that they've actually done anything does have a distant echo to the words of Frank Marshall Davis - as do many additional things he's been saying recently.
He chose his words very poorly this weekend - especially given that he's basically on the campaign trail.
And yes - he believes that Government can play an important role in the nation's economy.
But the statement below - and people from his past coming out of the shadows - don't have me convinced he's a Marxist or Socialist.
What concerns me more than anything he may have done or said 20 years ago is whether or not there is anything our government can do to help end an incredibly long recession.
I'm also not incredibly concerned that Romney may have been a bully, or that he may be (not so shockingly) very wealthy.
"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen" - President Obama
"The problem with Obama’s latest exhortation that “you didn’t build that” is not that it’s not true. The context of the remark makes it pretty clear that he’s referring to government-funded things like teachers and roads that make entre*pre*neur*ship possible."
- The Washington Post
Do you think Romney would do better as President than Obama?
Do you feel that a conservative Congress working with a conservative President could begin to solve some of our economic and political issues?
At times you talk as if we are headed to Hell in a Handbasket. I can't quite figure out if that is because of President Obama, or if you are unhappy with our current political system as a whole.
Do you think Romney would do better as President than Obama?
Do you feel that a conservative Congress working with a conservative President could begin to solve some of our economic and political issues?
At times you talk as if we are headed to Hell in a Handbasket. I can't quite figure out if that is because of President Obama, or if you are unhappy with our current political system as a whole.
I'm unhappy with the current system as a whole.
But, I think the degredations and depredations we experience are slower when government is divided/mixed.
For instance, I do want the Republicans to actually repeal the health law.
But, at the same time, I think the best governmental work we've had recently was when Clinton signed welfare reform.
I do believe the political class is looting us. But, I also believe that corruption matters no matter what initial follows a politicians name.
When you say "the political class" - who exactly do you mean?
Media/political elites.
The politicians merely buy votes with tax dollars - and with money borrowed from our children's futures.
The media cloaks such largesse in the words "compassion"
How "compassionate" is it to hand down a dramatically lower standard of living to every generation that follows?
How compassionate is it to hand down a devalued dollar that has little purchasing power, even though the price of housing and food continue to skyrocket and the price of housing was inflated well beyond our children's likely purchasing power long ago.
And how compassionate is it to hand our children a world where the US military will not only be unable to defend the globe, but not able to defend our own shores?
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Re: Obama the Kenyan Socialist 
I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of so many on the left condemning the comparison to Obama while being silent or even partaking in the comparison to Bush. You made your stance clear that it was equally wrong when done to Bush so you're not in that category. Call it playing the victim card if you must, I just see it as illustrating hypocrisy.
