Birth control should be free to everyone though. My ex's mom is a nurse in the NICU downtown and she sees the same crackhead moms come in every year, pop out a kid, and leave. the child goes into foster care. MAKES NO SENSE! Offer that woman a tubal or IUD! Let her do wahtever she wants for drugs...but stop making drug addicted babies!
Making it free won't really help if people choose to be irresponsible.
I'd go with the rule of 3's. If you have the program outlined above, if she produces not only a 2nd, but a 3rd child in the same situation, she gets tubes tied. No questions asked - and no appeals allowed.
In Ancient Athens leaders were chosen by lottery. Regardless of skill or interest or even a willingness to lead or campaign for the job. They picked your name and you became a leader. Until the next lottery or they decided to execute you. Maybe it really doesn't matter who is President as long as we can change them up.
In Mexico the President serves one 6 year term. That's it. The US might be served with something like that. Also, if no one wants to limit the amount of money poured into campaigns, then limit the duration of a campaign. It shouldn't take more than 90 days for them to make their case for the voting public to either make their choice or be unable to do that. Half of Americans don't vote anyway. So in 90 days, how much money could you actually spend? And end all campaigning and political advertising 2 weeks before the election.
Both Mirena IUD and Implanon (dermal implant) prevent conception for years.
When a woman signs up for public assistance, she gets one or the other - until she gets off public assistance.
Then it gets removed.
Actually, you said
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It would actually be quite easy. But, it doesn't fit the agenda of our betters.
So your verbal twirl is not quite accurate. And while I admit that sarcasm does not necessarily transmit well here, your comment on if not fitting "the agenda of our betters" seems to bely the point that you don't think it should be done. In fact, your statement that
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I'd go with the rule of 3's. If you have the program outlined above, if she produces not only a 2nd, but a 3rd child in the same situation, she gets tubes tied. No questions asked - and no appeals allowed.
seems to indicate you do in fact think this "should" be done.
So your verbal twirl is not quite accurate. And while I admit that sarcasm does not necessarily transmit well here, your comment on if not fitting "the agenda of our betters" seems to bely the point that you don't think it should be done. In fact, your statement that
seems to indicate you do in fact think this "should" be done.
So easy to distrust the motives of those who call your bluff.
So easy to distrust the motives of those who call your bluff.
It was not a bluff. I was fairly confident you had no good faith proposal to back your flippant statements, but was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I will make sure not to do so again.
Angel - I suspect Conrad's point is that because receiving public assistance is a choice, his solution advocating birth control is thus not mandatory. Unfortunately, he is clearly more concerned with snarky comments and scoring points than actual debate.
With that, I will take my own advice from a different thread and just not play the game.