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Old 08-11-2012, 10:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm looking forward to the VP debate.
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So am I.. Willard just handed Obama his second term AND the house..

Good luck getting Pennsylvania and Florida now..
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So am I.. Willard just handed Obama his second term AND the house..

Good luck getting Pennsylvania and Florida now..
Sure he did.
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Old 08-12-2012, 08:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry guys, but not every voter in Florida against Ryan. I am a registered Dem. (since 1992) I voted Rep. for Bush after 911, and against Obama last time, both in the prims and general election.

Our country is in a bad way, we need fresh blood, not another game of golf being played!

Both are not good choices, all we can do is pray for our country to get back on it's feet and stop being everybody in the world (baby daddy). Start taking care of people and help them get back to work.

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Sorry guys, but not every voter in Florida against Ryan. I am a registered Dem. (since 1992) I voted Rep. for Bush after 911, and against Obama last time, both in the prims and general election.

Our country is in a bad way, we need fresh blood, not another game of golf being played!

Both are not good choices, all we can do is pray for our country to get back on it's feet and stop being everybody in the world (baby daddy). Start taking care of people and help them get back to work.

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Hiding Spending Doesn't Reduce Spending:

Paul Ryan: Hiding Spending Doesn't Reduce Spending - YouTube
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It's bad enough that Romney refuses to release his tax returns. Add Paul Ryan to the mix, whose major goal is to trash the Social Security system. I greatly think the GOP missed the boat on this election as they have over-catered to the far right and have lost a golden opportunity to retake the White House.

After this election, I look for a serious schism to occur within the GOP, with the Tea Partiers taking firm control; and in essence will be driving the GOP moderates into either being Independents, or over into the Democratic Party itself.

I'm greatly afraid that this election will be firmly decided even before the sun begins to set on Election Day!
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Old 08-12-2012, 03:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I worry the same arbitrator. I was hoping he was going to choose Mark Rubio. I'm still hoping the GOP pulls a magic bunny out of the hat. But if I face reality, I think it's going to be 4 more years of Obama. I'm sad.
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Rubio would have been a great choice! I too think it will be Obama again. In Florida at least the smear campains are everywhere. It is difficult I think for people who are unaware or not well educated to look pass those ads and see what is really going on. (not saying all people who vote for him ar this way)

When I speak to people and ask them why they would vote for him and what they think about his policies on Medicare, foriegn affairs, ss, or the budget, they have no real reply. They like him because "he's real" or "he cares about the middle class". They have no real understanding of what state our nation is in.
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Just to lighten the mood!
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Just to lighten the mood!
Well, rarely ever, since at least Watergate anyway!
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:20 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I think that Obama's campaign will have to tread carefully in their response to Ryan on the ticket, especially when the debates start. They can do it successfully, maybe even easily, since he is the incumbent. But I think that they should run the election more like they did the last time, instead of a highly charged negative campaign, like not speaking up when the PACs make claims of Romney causing the death cancer victims. I think that Obama suceeds when he stays positive, even if it means saying that he'll have to shift his policies to address sagging economic news.

Politifact, a non-partisan watchdog group, already named the attacks of Ryan's plan the Lie of the Year for 2011, with nine seperate lies that ranged from just false to "pants on fire". After the cancer claim, and then the "I know a guy who says that Romney never paid taxes" claims, if Ryan displays an image of a likable man who care's about the nation's future, similar attacks on him might elicit the same backlash as happened during the midterm elections.

They certainly don't want Romney's campaign to re-frame the election into a choice between "you didn't build that" and "a bipartisan plan to address our nation's looming insovency." I think that this is the story that Romney's campaign is trying to sell by picking Ryan.

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I think that Obama's campaign will have to tread carefully in their response to Ryan on the ticket, especially when the debates start. They can do it successfully, maybe even easily, since he is the incumbent. But I think that they should run the election more like they did the last time, instead of a highly charged negative campaign, like not speaking up when the PACs make claims of Romney causing the death cancer victims. I think that Obama suceeds when he stays positive, even if it means saying that he'll have to shift his policies to address sagging economic news.
Romney's in dire straits, either way! If he fails to release his tax returns, that will carry scrutiny amongst both the middle class and the press( sans Fox News). If he does release them, both the press and the various "tax code legal eagles" are going to turn them nine ways from Sunday to look at everything that they might find.

Until Ryan does a 180 on his comments about the eventual abolition of Social Security and Medicaid, few, if any, of the mainstream states are going to give Romney the time of day.

Romney's only true hope is that a serious recession or a depression, with much higher unemployment, ensues prior to Election Day! If it doesn't, in addition to Obama/Biden's re-election, I would see GOP losses in both the U. S. House and the Senate.
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I'm still hoping the GOP pulls a magic bunny out of the hat.
I would vote for a magic bunny...regardless of its political affiliation.
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