ALCOHOL-drawing the lines...

Honey · 09-10-2008, 07:37 AM

Oh, that's sad.

Sweet love · 09-10-2008, 09:02 AM

Mostly expected. He was a greate pianist. Well known. and he flush it all the toilet also his marriage, for the bottle.
he even sold his Steinway for it so that was far out he even gave unique recording of piano concert hold by now dead very known artists in a priovate session using a special wind pipe piano in austreich, that he gave away for 3 beers at a local pub..
same went with unique books antiquity, everything went out.
And after eh did so he couldnt record it and search after those things and thougth he had been stollen by his.. friends!
he accused me of it a couple of times..
it was terrible.
But his last 3 months, he was in the stret had lost his home and all.
Froma known pianist givign concert at the symphony, and being acclamed and so much wanted, he ended up as an alcoholic in the street living in his own dirt, unshaved, long stinky and greasy hairs, eyes blured, who couldnt talk rigth, shaking like hell, and lost.
he was still kind till the last. he was a very nice and talented, and smiling and generous, and funny person.
but he died of alcoholism.

Alcohol is an egoistic *****. it give nothing over leave nothing over to anyone else. and it eat you to the bone. There si no difference between coke or heroin or alcohol. They all create dependency based on the same part of the brain and cause same sufferign in life and physicaly.
They said oh so many lies at his funerail.. so many bad friends and good weather friends there.. cause he was known..
so many pweople who had did him worng and even came with some bottle while he was under treatment to recover form it and who broke his treatement and were directly the cause of his death.
So many nobodies saying whatever about the guy.
I didnt made a speech,. There was nothign to say. He had said it all.
i was with him to fight the beast. I just didnt knew what kind of beast it was.. Now i do. But he is gone.

Chris H. · 09-10-2008, 09:13 AM

Here are the DSM criteria for diagnosing alcoholism. This is what mental health practitioners go by:

Alcohol Abuse and Dependence - Diagnosis - mentalhealthchannel

Honey · 09-10-2008, 02:53 PM

I won't let this happen to me.

Sweet love · 09-10-2008, 03:05 PM

I do hope so..

thats really scary. I saw it first hand.. i was the last person to take care of him and the last person to give up on him...

he was pretty out of it, until htat guy came, another pianist but not talented at all who came back from Belgien with special belgians beers with him "specialy for you" knwoign that the guy just ahd caem up form alcohol rehab and was over it..
i wanted to kill him!
I said to him "are you his friend or are you a judas!?"
all sweet talking and poinsoning him at the same itme knowing that the way down is fast and the way up is so hard specialy when you did it many times..
i should have throw him out,. today i know better, but i didn tback then.
I should have forbid him to ever come seeing him.

and it went real fast after that..
it was sommer, and he died in winter.

drinking hospital sprit at the end and wearing some of the hospital clothes.. in the street.. siting on the pavement and beggin for money..
Some people were asking is that him? the pianist? they couldnt beleive it.

he was also teacher at the music conservartorium and had got fired form there for beign so drunk during new eyears eve that he colapsed in ethilic coma, and had to be brought out with an ambulance..

that was when he went for 9 months in rehab.. it went fine. and then a divorce and then the judas with his beers, and 6 months later he was dead.
you can say he died a few months after coming out of rehab so its never given that you are out of it..
thats the worse i think.

Honey · 09-10-2008, 03:33 PM

I will not loose what I have worked so hard for over anything or anyone.

Sweet love · 09-10-2008, 03:39 PM

Thats a good attitude. I wont either.
on the other hand i dont have alcohl problem or dependency prob so i cant knwo how it is to be in that place, but i saw it close range several tiems so i got an idea... of how bad itcan be for "the others".. kids friends family...
also gthe kids once they are 30 36 yeard old..and still ahvign stigmate from their dad drinking problems.
like cutting themselves on the face and the body..
anothe rway to deal with emotional problems..
soem drink some cut themselves.

and some fart! LOLK! sorry i wanted ot bring some light in here..

freeshias4me · 09-10-2008, 08:51 PM

"If you think your husband has a drinking problem, hide the booz, or if you buy it with the food, don't. If he acts mean or goes out to get it, then you kow he can't live w/o it (so to speak). "

Heh heh...One time I poured the bottle of wine out on the driveway. The nosey next door neighbour saw...I think she was shocked at my "balls"!

swedish · 09-24-2008, 12:22 PM

Well, I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy but I suppose if the two are used for the same result, numbing feelings/masking pain it's a clear sign alcohol has become a crutch.

kiran23 · 09-26-2008, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mommy22

You'll probably get a different definition from everyone, but I honestly think that if you "need" even one a day, you're an alcoholic. I don't think one a day would necessarily be detrimental, but it's more the notion of dependency as a coping mechanism. Does he get headaches or nervous when he doesn't have it? Is it the ONLY way he can relax? I get headaches if I don't have my coffee every morning. I don't drink any caffeine for the rest of the day, but I still realize I have a caffeine addiction. If I don't get it, I'm moody and taking headache medicine. I think my husband (a recovering addict) would agree.

I agree...
You can take her help......