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post #46 of 152 (permalink) Old 09-06-2013, 12:44 PM
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Re: Husband says no more Christmas Tree, Santa, Easter, kids upset

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This seems to be a hot trend right now. My wife is very religious (I am not) and she contemplated the idea for awhile. I do know a number of families from within her social circle that have stopped celebrating those holidays.

I believe the reasoning was that these holidays do not actually fall on the exact days that Christ was born and had risen from the dead. The calendar days we celebrate Christmas and Easter are pagan in nature (not biblical) and are associated with pagan rituals and traditions.

You don't want me to write what I was thinking when my wife started suggesting this.
What he said!

The Catholic church did originally set the dates for Christmas and Easter to coincide with Pagan holidays. They thought it would help convert people to Christianity.

That said, Christmas and Easter have very religious reasons for being celebrated these days.

If your husband wanted to get rid of Santa, elves, the Easter bunny and all that stuff from Christmas and Easter I could see that. Refocusing on the religious aspects of it. But getting rid of it all together seems silly.

We really have no idea exactly when Christ was born or resurrected. If the exact date was that important I'm pretty sure he would have told one someone to make a note of it. He didn't, which leads me to believe that celebrating his birth, and resurrection are important but not the exact dates.

That said, there really isn't any argument that Halloween has no christian basis.

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I had a pastor that used to keep carved idols in his office when he taught seminary. The other staff were horrified and when they confronted him he asked them--is that piece of wood really a deity? Of course they said no, to which he replied "then why can't i keep a piece of wood in my office?" I think he was just trying to mess with them because he's like that.

Point being--Jesus isn't going to keep your kids out of heaven for trick or treating, because that's not worshipping Satan. It's just extorting candy.

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Re: Husband says no more Christmas Tree, Santa, Easter, kids upset

Ok let me put it this way. Easter, christmas, halloween are all holidays celebrated slightly differently based on ones belief. Christmas is not pagan due to it being the celebration of the birth of christ. It may fall on the pagan holiday yule but so does feliz navidad and many other holidays.


The same with easter. If i recall right it is the celebration of .... the passover? I may be wrong... lol can't quite recall correctly. One thing i hate to see is others giving up something they enjoy just because it shares the same date as something else.


Tell your husband... Yule is pagan. Christms is not. Easter... well since you all are christian then rightfully it is whatever you choose it to be. For pagans it's something else... but don't give it up just because it shares the same date.

Celebrating these holidays in your own christian way is not a sin that i can see. After all I am sure your god would be quite pleased you were celebrating them in his honor rather then the way some of us others such as myself celebrate them. Your not doing wrong by him when you celebrate them in his honor.

Not that i can see anyway. That's just my opinion.

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I would talk to a pastor or equivalent and get their opinion and then have then talk to your husband. I could not imagine getting rid of my families holiday traditions and celebrations. That's a tough road to travel.
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Re: Husband says no more Christmas Tree, Santa, Easter, kids upset

Ok, here goes. Having been born into a Southern Baptist Bible-thumping family on my paternal GF side, Native American on Paternal GM side (who were the medicine-men/witchdoctors), Celtic on Maternal Grandparents' side, I found it interesting several years ago when I began practicing yoga that a family member was concerned about all the Sanskrit and chanting and was concerned for my Salvation.

My reply was this..."Chanting in Sanskrit doesn't make me Hindu any more than eating fried chicken makes me a Baptist."

That said, regardless of HOW you celebrate, as long as the children are AWARE of the history involved, doesn't change a person's beliefs. If anything, when they are older, they may very well become those Scrooges that hate Holidays simply because of the way OP's husband has chosen to suddenly enforce his newfound "enlightenment".
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Maybe your husband is objecting to their pagan origin.
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Re: Husband says no more Christmas Tree, Santa, Easter, kids upset

My husband got baptized as a Jehovah's Witness in 2012...since then he absolutely WILL NOT compromise on a lot of things, celebrating holidays/birthdays is one of them. I'm not a JW (I believe it is a cult) but I am a Christian, so I celebrate holidays. When it comes to Thanksgiving or Christmas, I'll fly back home to be with family, bc it's absolutely horrible, for me, to not be around family during those times. It amazes me that he claims he doesn't celebrate bc of pagan backgrounds, but he'll do everyday things that have pagan backgrounds and that's ok, bc The Watchtower says it is...for now. Plus, he starts acting all extra weird around this time & he'll start putting in all these extra field service hours/bible study hours. And the only thing him & his JW friends will talk about is how lucky they are to have "The Truth" & not indulge in Pagan things...kinda like they feel sad or guilty about something. We don't have kids, so, thankfully, there's no issue of that!
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I am sorry your experience with your dh becoming a JW has been so unpleasant and stressful for you. I did want to comment that perhaps even though he is committed to not celebrating the holidays he does still feel the pull of this time of year and I am sure it IS hard on him. Doubly so knowing you are celebrating and that you are unhappy with him.

I have been a JW my entire life and I can assure you I feel nothing this time of year. Not guilt, jealousy---nothing. And as far as why we do not celebrate the holidays....it is because we do all we can to keep our worship free of pagan influence.



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My husband got baptized as a Jehovah's Witness in 2012...since then he absolutely WILL NOT compromise on a lot of things, celebrating holidays/birthdays is one of them. I'm not a JW (I believe it is a cult) but I am a Christian, so I celebrate holidays. When it comes to Thanksgiving or Christmas, I'll fly back home to be with family, bc it's absolutely horrible, for me, to not be around family during those times. It amazes me that he claims he doesn't celebrate bc of pagan backgrounds, but he'll do everyday things that have pagan backgrounds and that's ok, bc The Watchtower says it is...for now. Plus, he starts acting all extra weird around this time & he'll start putting in all these extra field service hours/bible study hours. And the only thing him & his JW friends will talk about is how lucky they are to have "The Truth" & not indulge in Pagan things...kinda like they feel sad or guilty about something. We don't have kids, so, thankfully, there's no issue of that!
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Re: Husband says no more Christmas Tree, Santa, Easter, kids upset

Let the kids do what they want. If he wants kids to stop this celebration, he can convince over time. Don't take their happiness away.
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Observing Christmas or Easter makes you a pagan about as much as observing Thursday (Thor's Day) or Saturday (Saturn's Day).

It doesn't.


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It's one thing to decide for oneself that things such as Christmas are off limits, but it's quite another to impose those beliefs on an unwilling wife and kids.
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Re: Husband says no more Christmas Tree, Santa, Easter, kids upset

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Our family is Christian, and we have never gone all out celebrating the pagan Christian holidays. We ignored them during the first years of our marriage. As we began having children, they noticed their friends doing Christmas, while we were not.

What we have done is keep the Feasts of the Lord (also called the Jewish feasts) and learned the symbolism in them that points to the Messiah, Jesus, who came and fulfilled some of them. We were celebrating Hanukkah and Passover around the same time everyone else was celebrating Christmas and Easter. We talked about Jesus, a lot during these feasts! Our children's secular and Christian friends wondered if we were Christians or Jews. To put our own children's minds at ease, we gave a Christmas a gift at Christmas, but left the real celebrating for Hanukkah. We gave a "Resurrection gift" on Easter morning, but really celebrated the Passover and Feast of Unleavened bread.

You have to be careful to not get brainwashed by a Messianic cult leader, and not believe everything that is said, however. Do your own research on the feasts and traditions that go with them, or you will find yourself substituting Christian Paganism for Jewish Rabbinical Tradition, based on Mysticism.

God loves a party, but just make sure that party is not mixing in paganism. Remember what he did to the Israelites when they made that Golden calf and said,"Now let's dedicate to the Lord and have a feast to the Lord." He destroyed them. Dedicating a pagan thing to God does not make it holy, or fool God.

It is a lot of work to really know what you are doing and why you are doing it (researching if the tradition/ritual is biblical, or is it Rabbinical traditional based on mysticism?) but we were very blessed by celebrating the feasts...and there were plenty to observe, and which point to Christ, or correspond to things that happened later in Christianity. We are doing them less now, and our children have begun asking if we can celebrate them again. They were very rich in meaning and tradition.

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Re: Husband says no more Christmas Tree, Santa, Easter, kids upset

I'm sure the OP has long since abandoned this thread, but just in case she returns, I wanted to give my personal experience with this.
My older siblings were young children when our dad decided that there would no longer be secular celebrations of Christmas and Easter. He and my mother had always been devout Christians, but for various reasons, no longer wanted any part of trees, easter eggs hunts, etc. This was upsetting to my siblings, and to my mother to a degree, but they did acclimate. They also didn't deny participation at events at school and with family, so that they weren't isolated. As for myself, i didn't understand why we didn't have a tree like all my friends did, but it wasn't really that big a deal.
Fast forward to when we all became adults with our own families, we are all still in the Christian faith, but half of us went into different denominations. We all also celebrate the birth of Jesus and his resurrection, and we ALL decorate for Christmas. One of the most special moments that I have with my son, is when we decorate our tree and tell the stories behind all the ornaments. My son knows the tree is not the real meaning of Christmas, but it is a fun, special walk down memory lane that we do every year.
Talk to your children, and if you must, celebrate a little on your own. Your husband will put on his big boy pants, and "get over it". For example, my mother and I would decorate eggs after Easter was over. Just for fun
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Re: Husband says no more Christmas Tree, Santa, Easter, kids upset

I neglected to get to my point..

Not having a tree isn't worth breaking up a family, but there has to be some compromise to acclimate the children.

I did want to add, that i can't help but to scoff at those that suddenly want to make all these changes because they think the end is coming and they want to score extra brownie points. It's like trying to lose 20 lbs for that class reunion that's a month away. The end was coming soon according to my dad 40 years ago. that's why he made those changes. Read your bible and love your family. That's what we all need to be doing.
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Re: Husband says no more Christmas Tree, Santa, Easter, kids upset

My family celebrates cultural aspects of religion (Hinduism or Pagan religion as per abrahamic faiths) like various festivals even though most of family members are agnostic. In my opinion these events are more important than theology that particular religion offers. Cultural aspect of religions while growing up plays important role in emotional development of children.
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