and yes i think marriage is God's idea, for us to be faithful, understanding, honest u know the good stuff and also encouraging each other, making it work, a lot of people now is taking it for a game we all know that, some people are getting married to own the next person to control them which leads to the abusive part and some are getting married for what the other person has eg. money etc and then they get a divorce, so marriage by man is real crappy
From my understanding of the Old Testament, Adam had to ask for a wife, so I guess it was his idea. You notice God made Adam a wife but didn't make himself one.
I always thought being one was having sex. In a lot of societies especially in those where marriage is more "sacred" you're married to the person you have sex with. That is why the Bible preaches against sex with more than 1 person.
The Bible also talks about divorce, and remarrying.
Matthew 5:32
But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.
Romans 7:2,3 - "For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another man."
The above verses reflect the customs of the time in which they were written. The sexuality of women was strictly regulated so that paternity of children could be guaranteed. She was also controlled so that any wealth, property, or family advantage she brought to her husband's family stayed with his family. Men, on the other hand, could have dalliances (especially the wealthy) and it was no problem.
Strange how the Bible ignores the moral responsibilities of the man, and only addressed the woman. Probably because the Bible was written by man.
Strange how the Bible ignores the moral responsibilities of the man, and only addressed the woman. Probably because the Bible was written by man.
Of course it was. It was also rewritten many many times by priests to most probably suit them and their needs/wants in order to gain control over people. A lot of things have probably been crossed out as well.
Also, in the old days they did not really write it all down at first but it went around like urban legends, or just stories and who doesn't know what when people repeat something? They either add or subtract words... Take gossip for instance. It starts as an x and ends as a y.
I DO NOT trust or like priests. Actually I've only met one priest who I really liked, he was 80 and seemed really sincere. All the others? Not even close to being honest or "holy".
I also think the Pope is the only person who has access to the real story behind the bible or the actual original scripts.
Wasn't it priests who killed Jesus? Even today a lot of people are killed when they speak the truth, professors get fired from universities and teachers from schools.
I think Jesus was trying to send us a really important message, and whatever is written in the bible should not be taken word for word. There's a deeper meaning behind it all. I think his mission was to enlighten us, and let us know that we are capable of everything he was. We control ourselves physically and mentally and spiritually and we are our own god in a sense. There is a greater power out there, but we are just as powerful. We've turned into dormant volcanoes who have no idea that we were capable of in the past. Just IMO from reading and watching a lot of different stuff about god the bible and Jesus.
During Bible time, men were taught to respect and provide for women since they are physically stronger. Manual work needed men! Women couldn't do much to support themselves, they had to be dependent on men. Women were taught to be respectful and submissive towards them. Adulterers would be stoned to death, so I don't think there was much fornication going on. Families were more like families. Sons were taught to be nice to their old parents, if they were not, they would be stoned to death, too.
Now, a lot of things have changed. People want their human rights. People want their freedom. Women want equality. Children want rights instead of spanking. In many ways, the society has become very civil, but in many ways, people are going to the extreme on the other side. Good or bad, who knows?
I don't believe in God, so I don't know if it is GOD's idea or just human nature. Very often I am pondering. Countries are far way from each other, in history it was so difficult for people to travel from one place to the other, but look at human history, there were similarities in many areas, how come? Did God really do something to make everything happen at the same time?
I respect Bible wisdom!!! For people who are not interested in religion, it is still a good thing to read the Bible. If we try to follow Bible commandments, we will tend to have a much more peaceful life!!! Read it, study it, and apply it!!! It is only good for us!!! Ignore the imperfection of human, just learn to help ourselves to live a better life!!!
In the garden, God performed it. The vows we now take are based on the commandments--to love, forsaking all others, etc.. We now have pastors and ministers to perform the ceremony as ordained by God. Just because we have ministers performing the ceremony, it doesn't mean it's a man-made institution. It was God's design from the beginning. The ceremony is both an actual vow under God which joins the couple but also a symbol for all witnesses somewhat akin to baptism. Just as baptism shows the covenant relationship between God and man, a ceremony displays the God ordained covenant between husband and wife.
Mommy 2's statements are about the only ones worth reading on this entire post absolutely amazes me people’s comments when they literally know nothing in Gods word or our basis of being…the bible is rich in scripture on marriage and how a woman and a man is supposed to be together treating women as Christ treated the church…if more husbands followed Gods’ plan on earth women would be held as nothing less as infinite buety…someone they would be willing to truly die for without regard… it would seem to be very irresponsible and foolish to continue commenting without at least gaining a tiny bit of knowledge and wisdom…In the new testament alone Jesus commented on how it was better to marry then to burn with passion as well as people should not divorce for foolish reasons as they where doing that’s why those guidelines where set if, they truly wanted to do that and if only that if the other party could not forgive their spouse and not work through it…this was based on the law of the old testament because he was reiterating what Moses had said because of the motivation of the people asking the question as like our times they just wanted a divorce for selfish reasons…when Jesus came we where freed from old testament laws of sin if we followed/ believed in him…make no mistake the USA was found on biblical principles just look at a dollar bill …Yes marriage is certainly a part of Gods plan for us christians…
Considering that monogamous unions predate any particular religion or anyone's current concept of God, these unions must have been a logical societal necessity. Kids are born, someone needs to raise them and they can't raise kids and hunt for Mammoths at the same time. The biggest and strongest male of the tribe can't be the only one mating or there will eventually be funny looking kids. Warriors and hunters can't be battling to the death with each other every time they want to have sex with a woman. The natural solution was for men and women to pair up. Whether their idea of "god" was a being on a cloud, the sun, a tree, a statue, a human being, or the collective spirits of the dead, the concept was necessary for survival.
During Bible time, men were taught to respect and provide for women since they are physically stronger. Manual work needed men! Women couldn't do much to support themselves, they had to be dependent on men. Women were taught to be respectful and submissive towards them.
Greenpearl, this is not accurate. There has always been a division of labor, and women throughout history have always done their share of the work that needed to be done and more! For example, while the men hunted, the women foraged and gathered food. They farmed, ground wheat, made bread, did the laundry, tended children, cured leather, etc. The list goes on. Women needed the men, but the men needed the women's labor just as much.
Greenpearl, this is not accurate. There has always been a division of labor, and women throughout history have always done their share of the work that needed to be done and more! For example, while the men hunted, the women foraged and gathered food. They farmed, ground wheat, made bread, did the laundry, tended children, cured leather, etc. The list goes on. Women needed the men, but the men needed the women's labor just as much.
You are right. They had to be dependent on each other.
Could a woman live without a man at that time? Ruth's husband died, she went home with her mother-in-law Naomi. She had to find a man to get married again. I guess they could survive themselves by gathering what left in the field, but by marrying Boaz their life became much better. Nowadays a woman can make more money than a man. A woman can easily support herself. It is so common. That's why I think women have changed a lot.
This thread makes me want to read the Bible again.
Considering that monogamous unions predate any particular religion or anyone's current concept of God, these unions must have been a logical societal necessity. Kids are born, someone needs to raise them and they can't raise kids and hunt for Mammoths at the same time. The biggest and strongest male of the tribe can't be the only one mating or there will eventually be funny looking kids.Warriors and hunters can't be battling to the death with each other every time they want to have sex with a woman. The natural solution was for men and women to pair up. Whether their idea of "god" was a being on a cloud, the sun, a tree, a statue, a human being, or the collective spirits of the dead, the concept was necessary for survival.
The biggest and strongest male of the tribe can't be the only one mating or there will eventually be funny looking kids.----unbelievable
its called "mongoloidism" No rel'shp to the Mongols and Ghengis Khan, tho' he interestingly had sired so many offspring via his many wives & concubines, that even today some of his DNA imprint runs thru 5-10% of the population of Asia alone.
(which includes Taiwanese...hint hint)
No matter , we have our dueling banjo players of the backwoods of GA as well as our cajun swamp ppl too.
Marriage is an institution developed by man. Its an extension of Adam and Eve being developed and placed with one another... humans make God's laws so legalistic to make sense of and define them. We really dont need marital ceremonies other than to solidify the finances and legalities. I do believe that God calls 2 people together... but that is where it ends and begins... if you are called to be together then that is who you remain with until death.
I think Blanca may be onto something with the idea of DNA...one flesh. It makes perfect sense that a book as poetic as the Bible use that analogy to descibe something not yet fully scientifically understood... but very observable in that the child has characteristics of each biological parent.
Marriage is an institutional necessity, whether religiously or civilly implemented. No two people on earth completely adore each other every day. Without some institutional mechanism to help keep us in relationships when we'd rather be doing something else, few unions would long survive. Before Johnson's welfare plans of the 1960s, marriage was about the only security women and kids had available for thousands of years. Even in cultures which had never heard of Adam and Eve and in countries which outlawed religion completely, it was still necessary to arrange institutions which discouraged men from killing each other over a woman and compelled men to support their mate(s) and offspring. Penguins have never read the Bible and don't practice any religion, but for the survival of the species, they pair up in monogamous unions. I think humans are at least as smart as penguins.
Re: Is marriage really GODS idea? 
No rel'shp to the Mongols and Ghengis Khan, tho' he interestingly had sired so many offspring via his many wives & concubines, that even today some of his DNA imprint runs thru 5-10% of the population of Asia alone.
