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post #211 of 220 (permalink) Old 11-30-2014, 07:56 PM
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Re: What do you feel about homosexuality in a religious view?

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"Being an atheist is okay.

Being an atheist and shaming religion and spirituality as silly or not real is not okay.

Being a Christian is okay.

Being a homophobic, misogynistic, racist, or otherwise hateful person in the name of Christianity is not okay.

Being a reindeer is okay.

Bullying and excluding another reindeer because he has a shiny red nose is not okay."

As a Christian, people should follow the Golden Rule. It doesn't matter what the other person has done or who they are, you treat them kindly. It is not your place to judge. Only God can do that.

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Re: What do you feel about homosexuality in a religious view?

I agree with Anonymous.....'Only God can do that (judge)'.

God created man and woman...we were each designed so that we could re-produce together. She was given a vagina and ovaries, he was given a penis and testicles. The vagina was designed to accept the penis for the penis to 'intoduce' sperm to the egg.
Fact.

If God had meant for men to have sex with men (or women with women) he would have given them the necessary equipment.
Homosexual relationships are 'un-natural'.

That is my 'basis', HOWEVER, I fully accept that people of the same sex can and do fall in love and have very happy and loving relationships.

Whilst I believe that there is a time and place for everything in life, I don't mind seeing a male and female in an intimate embrace under a tree in a park etc but I wouldn't be happy seeing a man & man or woman & woman doing it.

I am against same sex couples having children.....as I believe children need to grow up in an environment that has a woman and a man in it.

I know with my own children that (on the whole) if they are frightened and feel they need protecting they will come to me....if they are sad or poorly and need TLC they will go to their mother.
Its natural.

In closing...do I accept homosexuality? Yes. Do I approve of it? No.

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Re: What do you feel about homosexuality in a religious view?

I have a few friends that work in the mental health field.
From what they've told me, 99% of homosexuals were sexually abused.

The one friend of mine, who's been a psychiatrist for over 12 years, has told me that every single homosexual he's counselled has been sexually abused.
Another acquaintance, who has been involved with counselling alcoholics and drug abusers has said the same thing.
He has yet to meet a homosexual who wasn't abused.

So if this is true, then I think it's even more important that Christians put down their pitchforks and rocks and accept these people.
One could make the argument that homosexuality isn't a choice then. It was basically forced upon them.

But in the end, Jesus's entire message was to love and accept.
Putting people down, telling them their evil or sinners, isn't helping anyone.
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Re: What do you feel about homosexuality in a religious view?

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How can a person be a homosexual, which the Bible says is wrong, and still be a Christian? I have no idea and do not intend to twist my brain into spaghetti trying to figure it out, nor do I wish to get into a debate. The Bible says his ways are higher than my ways and his thoughts are higher than my thoughts. I am not God and I certainly don't know the answer to every question. I just know how I choose to live and must give others the right to do the same.
A Christian is someone who believes in Christ, so it's fairly easy for a homosexual to be a Christian.

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I have a few friends that work in the mental health field.
From what they've told me, 99% of homosexuals were sexually abused.

The one friend of mine, who's been a psychiatrist for over 12 years, has told me that every single homosexual he's counselled has been sexually abused.
Another acquaintance, who has been involved with counselling alcoholics and drug abusers has said the same thing.
He has yet to meet a homosexual who wasn't abused.

So if this is true, then I think it's even more important that Christians put down their pitchforks and rocks and accept these people.
One could make the argument that homosexuality isn't a choice then. It was basically forced upon them.

But in the end, Jesus's entire message was to love and accept.
Putting people down, telling them their evil or sinners, isn't helping anyone.
So your friends have made up a statistic? I have never heard of such a statistic and don't follow it at all. I know quite a few homosexuals and none of them were sexually abused.

There are 2 men who are homosexual and are extremely involved in the church I go to(more so than most heterosexual couples). They are more Christian than many who go to that church, as they are much less judgmental, rude, disrespectful, etc. They do a lot of volunteer work, truly walking in Jesus's footsteps. I am sometimes amazed at those who call themselves "Christian" and then act holier than thou, as if they can do no wrong. As it said it the Bible, "those without sin can throw the first stone".
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Re: What do you feel about homosexuality in a religious view?

Jesus tells us that homosexuality is a grave sin.

I also agree it is obviously un natural.

Do I judge those who practice homosexuality? No.

I've had gay and lesbian co workers and got along great with them. My experience in life are those who don't believe that judge and say horrible things about homosexuals and that is fact.

When you become a Christian, you become a new creature. That means, you now turn away from what God tells us are sins. You can't purposely do something, don't see it as a sin or wrong, even when God says it is a sin and wrong and then think you're a Christian??? No, you are not a Christian and are fooling yourself.

If you love to drink and get drunk, then claim you are a Christian, you are not. You get the idea.

Homosexuality is nothing new and only from modern times. Homosexuality has been around since the beginning and cannot be primarily genetic due to theoretical gay genes never merging and getting passed on.

Penis goes in vagina. Sperm merges with egg. Genetic traits from male and female are passed. Very simple to understand.

Male and Male or Female and Female = dead end and nothing gets merged and passed on naturally.

You need a male and female not just for physical reasons but for emotional ones as well.

A hand goes in a glove, and not in another hand.

I think its very sad that today's society is teaching our kids that gay, lesbian is okay just like male and female. Kids don't know what is natural and un natural anymore.

Human beings are not asexual either.

Jesus's message is love and forgiveness. So very true.

But Jesus also talked to prostitutes and told them to turn from their sinful ways. Jesus told a rich man to leave his wealth and follow him and same with tax collectors. Jesus didn't say, continue to sin and don;t turn from your ways and you're still saved.....no, you must turn from your sinful ways and then you are saved. Doesn't mean you won't desire them, I do all the time but I am admitting that I am a sinner and what I do is sin. That's the difference.

If Jesus says doing drugs is a sin. Then over time, most of the world does drugs for recreational use and no longer sees it as wrong. Is it still a sin? Yes.

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Jesus Christ, this thread just keeps getting worse.
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It is quite obvious that all sins should be left to be judged by God ~ not by man. The Bible makes it plain that we, in time, will all be judged by the Heavenly Father according to what we have done, and for what we have left undone. In His eyes, sin is sin ~ none is any more egregious than another.

The homosexual will be compelled to account for his eartly actions, just as the adulterer, the thief, the drunkard, the liar, the murderer, the child abuser, the idoliter, the money hoarder; you name it. It will not be done before an earthly jury of your peers ~ the evidence will already be there for them to be judged solely by the Heavenly Father.

It is so sad to see how cavalier some folks are when it comes to their personal perception and ultimate commission of sin and fully expecting to be instantaneously absolved!

I would greatly suspect that God is not a God of hate or vengeance, but much rather a God of love. But upon confession to the Father of our many earthly sins, it is all too obvious that those sins will be forgiven!

Wow! Think I've already prepared my outline for Sunday School Class!
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It is quite obvious that all sins should be left to be judged by God ~ not by man. The Bible makes it plain that we, in time, will all be judged by the Heavenly Father according to what we have done, and for what we have left undone. In His eyes, sin is sin ~ none is any more egregious than another.

The homosexual will be compelled to account for his eartly actions, just as the adulterer, the thief, the drunkard, the liar, the murderer, the child abuser, the idoliter, the money hoarder; you name it. It will not be done before an earthly jury of your peers ~ the evidence will already be there for them to be judged solely by the Heavenly Father.

It is so sad to see how cavalier some folks are when it comes to their personal perception and ultimate commission of sin and fully expecting to be instantaneously absolved!

I would greatly suspect that God is not a God of hate or vengeance, but much rather a God of love. But upon confession to the Father of our many earthly sins, it is all too obvious that those sins will be forgiven!

Wow! Think I've already prepared my outline for Sunday School Class!
This might help: A Bible study on Sin (Part-6A)
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I totally have 100% respect for gay people and married gay couples.
However, growing up in a catholic high school, I've been told that if a gay couple is married, then that is not exactly the correct thing.

Me, I believe God wants everyone to be with whoever they love and makes them happy, whether it's the same sex or different sex.

What do you guys think?
shouldn't matter to the government a hill of beans if someone is gay or they want to get married. God, of course, is a different matter. As much as some people wish it weren't so, I think it's pretty clear He is not a fan of it.
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shouldn't matter to the government a hill of beans if someone is gay or they want to get married. God, of course, is a different matter. As much as some people wish it weren't so, I think it's pretty clear He is not a fan of it.

Very true.

As the worlds turns away from God more and more, sins we knew were wrong become acceptable and okay and then the whole world thinks its okay when it is not.

God loves everyone equally. God loves gays and lesbians.

God doesn't love the sins we all commit.

If God tells us homosexuality is a grave sin, then a grave sin it is.

Everyone has their burden, sin to deal with in life. Mine is porn because I'm married to a LD vanilla wife. I admit I am in sin, it is wrong and I try, fail, ask for forgiveness over and over. I am weak. Being gay or lesbian is similar for them. That is their burden to bare in this life.

When we all physically die, we all are brought up before God, in the 3rd heaven in a twinkling of an eye. If we believed in Jesus, admitted we are sinners, repent and try......Jesus has washed us of all our sins so God doesn't judge us. We are washed as white as snow. But if we continued to sin, didn't admit what we do is wrong, Jesus will not save us from our sins and God judges us all for all our sins at that point. It comes down to our own personal choices in life, and we have moral free will. I am guilty so many times over, its not even funny.


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