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I believe in accepting gay people as they are, a part of God's creation just like straight people.

I am a mother, which is probably part of why I feel the way I do. If one of my kids turns out to be gay, I want him to be able to live a healthy, happy life.

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I believe in accepting gay people as they are, a part of God's creation just like straight people.

I am a mother, which is probably part of why I feel the way I do. If one of my kids turns out to be gay, I want him to be able to live a healthy, happy life.
Which particular God of which particular religion agrees with this?

You seem to be an atheist, but I understand why you are forced to hide it - it's not safe to admit to being an unbeliever in the land of the free.
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Which particular God of which particular religion agrees with this?
Start with Christianity.

Hate the sin, love the sinner.

If gays are going to hell because of Gods commands, who else? How many divorced heterosexual Christians? How many who have had more than one sexual partner? Or lied, or......

We are all sinful.

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[7] When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” [8] Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. [9] At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. [10] Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” [11] “No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”
Love the sinner, hate the sin, and call the Pharisees on their hypocrisy. That is the model Jesus set with the woman caught in adultery.
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Which particular God of which particular religion agrees with this?

You seem to be an atheist, but I understand why you are forced to hide it - it's not safe to admit to being an unbeliever in the land of the free.
Lol! Where do you get atheist from on my posts? And what does that last sentence mean?

I grew up Catholic, but we do not go to church. Dh and I do believe in God and pray. I think God is pure love, the spirit of love and truth.
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You feel betrayed, they feel betrayed. It doesn't mean either of you are bad or wrong, just incompatible.
No really, they just didn't want a child with autism as part of the congregation. They are wrong way wrong.
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No really, they just didn't want a child with autism as part of the congregation. They are wrong way wrong.
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I remember my mom telling me one time about leaving a church because a homeless guy came in for a service one sunday and they threw him out.

Some folks are more interested in the trappings of religion than the spirit behind it.

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Lol! Where do you get atheist from on my posts? And what does that last sentence mean?

I grew up Catholic, but we do not go to church. Dh and I do believe in God and pray. I think God is pure love, the spirit of love and truth.
You think God is thus, and believe there is a God... but you don't know.

That's not faith, it's wishful thinking !

I met God once, and he told me that what most annoys him is all the Presidents who keep putting words in his mouth.
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You think God is thus, and believe there is a God... but you don't know.

That's not faith, it's wishful thinking !

I met God once, and he told me that what most annoys him is all the Presidents who keep putting words in his mouth.
Are you an atheist?

And how is what I believe not faith?
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Are you an atheist?

And how is what I believe not faith?
I would give you an answer but only a person with faith would understand it. Catch-22

As for love the sinner... there is sin in a moment of weakness or ignorance ('for they know not what they do') and there is sin in which a person revels and has no intention of giving up.
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LOL Sandfly, you remind me of the late Steve Irwin. Seems like your idea of a great afternoon is to find a crocodile and poke it with a stick.


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LOL Sandfly, you remind me of the late Steve Irwin. Seems like your idea of a great afternoon is to find a crocodile and poke it with a stick.
He is funny, isn't he? He is hilarious over on that date rape thread . . .
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LOL Sandfly, you remind me of the late Steve Irwin. Seems like your idea of a great afternoon is to find a crocodile and poke it with a stick.
Blame not the man who pokes with the stick,

Ask instead why there are so many crocodiles to poke!
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He is funny, isn't he? He is hilarious over on that date rape thread . . .
You should join us!

The woman who started started off saying that this musical was all about rape

Then this guy said he was bullied into sex he didn't want, which happens, so I try to sympathise

Then she says "you should have enforced your boundaries"

And I'm like

"No way did you just say that. Would you say that to a woman?"

And she dodges it, she's like "Rape is wrong" which doesn't really add much to the collective knowledge of the world

Then she disappeared!

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As for love the sinner... there is sin in a moment of weakness or ignorance ('for they know not what they do') and there is sin in which a person revels and has no intention of giving up.
Well yes....and there are sins committed during the week vs weekend. Wearing jeans or a suit. In public, in private. It's all sin. And it you accept the Christian message, God knows about it. That is a bit embarrassing!!!
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Our oldest is a christian, me & him disagree on Homosexuality..in one aspect anyway...in how they handle it... He believes they are born this way... but he feels it is wrong behavior so therefor these men should hold their lusts and struggle to be sexless.. I do not agree with this... if it is not hurting anyone..they are consenting adults... I feel only a cruel God would expect them to live like that, if they were born this way...

That'd be like us trying to lay down our Romantic passions towards the opposite sex, we are wired that way....some things are just too powerful !! ...Might as well hang that one up...it's going to have it's expression in us.

....A child molester is different (he is wired to lust after young children for some reason) some things need restrained.. of course..

As far as sin, if we want to go there.... we all sin... what of gluttony...boy is some of us guilty of that one!

I do not understand many things...why God allows children to be born "Intersexed" (Physically neither male nor female OR both & Doctor plays God & corrects) Intersex - Wikipedia , WHY Children are born with down syndrome (seems so unfair)...

I know nothing about what some claim about DNA strands, etc. I lean towards alot of grace towards these people. (unless they are willing spreading Aids with careless behavior... but I would feel that way with anyone, drug abuser, heterosexuals, I would see them all in the same light.

Also I QUESTION the original words & translations in the Sodom & Gomorrah story pointing exclusively to "Homosexuality", it definitely was other sins also....which rarely get pointed out for some reason.....

In Ezekiel 16:49-50, it says ....."Look, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: She and her daughter had pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty and committed abomination before Me; therefore I took them away as I saw fit."
It was also .... 1) Pride 2) Gluttony 3) Laziness & 4) Not caring for the Poor .

The New Testament also speaks of "the sins" of Sodom and Gomarrah in Matthew 10:12-15; Mark 6:10-11 & Luke 10:10-12.
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