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Old 01-05-2014, 02:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Why do you think people were drawn to Jesus?

Was it his compassion . . . his truthfulness . . . his simplicity?

If you had been living in Israel at that time, what would have drawn you to him?
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Nice topic!

I like his analogies, using ordinary language to get a point across, this one is an example about how you can't be a Christian and be chasing after money:

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other: or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You can't serve God and mammon. (i.e. greed)

Also, the ones we all know about stone-chucking, and the mustard seed, and the rich man not going to heaven any more than the camel through a needle...

His trademark - Using the concrete for-instance to explain the abstract principle.
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Jld said: Was it his compassion . . . his truthfulness . . . his simplicity?
All of the above...

Even if one doesn't believe in Jesus... I think we all want others to live his Parables -his ETHICS... if you will. What else really moves people but a compassion that goes beyond our own.

Humility is seen as weak to most people... but if it is balanced with a valiant spirit (lionhearted, heroic, courageousness)...then something happens....you stand in awe..with great respect.

He Had THAT going on ..or his story surely leaves behind...

I am drawn to people of character, those who show a genuineness in how they live their lives & handle their relationships.....when you can count on their word...not just to flatter in a moment, then forget you exist the next day or joke back.. "Oh you thought I meant that?"....

Making mistakes... being human ...we can't get away from that....but having the fortitude to go to the person you hurt, seek reconciliation/ mercy...determined to make it right "Leaving that gift at the alter' type thing....this is good, in line with Jesus teachings..love those sort of people...so I would also Love the Teacher of such ways..... no one needs to be perfect...it's all in the attitude, our motivations......the willingness to rise above where we are, own our own hand..

Jesus and Sinners...



There is just something about a repentant heart... isn't there...all of us screw up, we do things we shouldn't...speak harshly in a moment against someone...I think our conscience knows we are only hurting ourselves when we continue in this.. Jesus represents being able to find acceptance -no matter where we have been.. That's some pretty deep sh** depending on where we have BEEN.

Sometimes I feel those who have hit the gutters of life are more in tuned to this magnificent forgiveness & have a deeper appreciation for it over those who haven't been in those trenches & come out of it..Like Mary Magdalene...

.. List of Parables

So many... some that stand out to me.... The Prodigal son... the Good Samaritan.... Prayer of the Pharisee & tax Collector...Persistent Widow & Unjust Judge... Wise & the foolish builders... The Parable of the Un merciful Servant....just so many ...deep messages for our daily living...

I have to say this though... one my husband does not like....the widow & the 2 mites....anytime he hears this, he gets the idea God expects us to starve and give our last penny, like we should live on the streets like Paupers/ Hare Krishna's hanging at airports or something...... he rarely comes to church with me & when he does, it's like a running Joke that the widow & her penny will be in the sermon...

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Hi, Sandfly! Thanks for your response.

There are so many sayings from the Bible that I love. I appreciate the one you focused on, about having two masters. A big problem American churches have is that they are so focused on money. Gosh, that is a whole other thread in itself!

I think the saying I would like to focus on, because it is so apropos of this site, is this: It is from the heart that the mouth speaks.

Jesus understood people. He looked beyond their behavior, which is so focused on here, and looked into their hearts. He saw their selfishness, their shortsightedness, their laziness, and deceitfulness, and loved them anyway. He knew everything bad about people, and loved them anyway. He knew they would kill him, and he loved them anyway. Jesus's life was just pure giving.

Jesus could do that because he was a secure man. He knew who he was, what he believed in, and what he wanted to do. He didn't need people to tell him he was okay. He didn't need to fit in. He just knew what was right and he did it.

And he walked the last mile alone.

It does not take any courage at all to join in on bashing someone or a group of people. It does not take any courage to tell someone everything that is wrong with him or her. It does take some kindness, and patience, and compassion to listen to that person, seek to understand, and try to heal their heart. And to me, this site is all about healing hearts. There are so very many hurting hearts here, and in our world.

I am so glad for the teachings of Jesus. I think he was such an inspiring man. I wish I could see more of his teachings reflected in the lives of his followers, or at least a little more humility in acknowledging their shortcomings.

Honestly, I wish I would see more of his teachings reflected in my own life.

I think Jesus asked people to be honest with themselves. When we are honest with ourselves, when we see just how short we fall, we become more understanding of others. We see just how much we and they need compassion. We say, "Help me understand," and, "How can I help?" We move off judgment and into caring for one another.

I think people were drawn to Jesus because of his love. They just felt it. When you are bathed in love, you just don't want to be away from it. It heals you and cleanses you and makes you want to be kind to others. Love is the start.

This is why I believe in attachment parenting, active listening, and other gentle, insightful approaches to dealing with humanity. These things focus on healing and uplifting people.

It is hard to keep a positive outlook when so much around us is negative. I am so grateful for my dh -- he is the example of Jesus in my life. Do you know 1 Corinthians 13:4-7? I can put my dh's name in there. To me he totally fits that passage.

I heard a minister speak to husbands once, telling them that they were Jesus to their wives, that their wives put the same trust in them that they would put in Jesus. Pretty overwhelming for those husbands, I'm sure. But truthful from the viewpoint of at least some of those wives, I am also sure.

Again, thanks for your post.
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SA, your post is so beautiful!

They always are, but this one especially so!

You have such a good heart, SA, and I am so glad you are here. You are a light in the darkness for many people, a hope of what a truly loving, supportive marriage is. Your presence here lifts people.

I think Jesus was that light in the darkness for people. In this selfish world, he was a giver. He gave hope and peace to people. He gave them something to believe in.

Humility and repentance . . . great themes. What woman of good heart can resist a humble man? A man who can crush us, but chooses to lift us and carry us instead?

And what woman can resist a man who is truly sorry for his selfishness, his lack of consideration? To see a man, again, who just by his size can crush you, humble himself to ask your forgiveness? A woman's heart just melts.

I wish people could see the power of humility and repentance.

Jesus just flipped power and the "alpha" male and all that on its head. He showed what true strength was.

So many men are such a disappointment to their wives. So many women I know take solace in their faith, because real life is such a heavy load for them to carry. They may be married, but they just seem to be carrying their load alone.

At least they have something to believe in.

Thanks again for your post.
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WOW!!!

SA abd JLD did a great job of presenting their views of which I agree.
I have only one thing against SA and JLD; they almost left me with nothing to add!
Great posts SA and JLD!

I am going to attempt to add something and it will be based on what SA and JLD alluded to.


Why do you think people were drawn to Jesus?

I think that when people do a real honest self introspection they find that they could have made some better choices in life and in fact were selfish and hurt others sometime in their life and have gone against God's instructions. . I also think that many believe in a benevolent God. At this point some feel convicted and want to get right with God.

I for one know that I could not make up for what I have done to people and God. I need grace from the Devine and that is exactly what Jesus did for me and that is a ginormous draw for me! . I am enormously grateful to Jesus for what He has done. He is my all time hero, even a greater hero than Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther king!
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[QUOTE=Sandfly;6390449]"...you can't be a Christian and be chasing after money..."/QUOTE]

Jesus wasn't making ANYONE a Christian, and he was only preaching god's ways to ONE people, the Jews. Paul did the rest, Roman conspiracy or not.

I personally like the teachings of Jesus because he said we are all with faults... prostitutes, usurers, incompassionates, and criminals, EVERYONE, even Judas... and that despite this all, god loves everyone, they are part of his creation, and we must accept and love all, regardless of these faults.

I also believe in the "not what goes into a man's mouth, but what comes out" bit.

Also, contrary to what an earlier poster didn't understand, he was an "alpha male", at least according to whatever myth or fairy tale invented "alpha males". Those who were threatened the most by him that had power could not deal with him directly. They had to go higher and higher, until they had some "order" under a far-off, unseen emperor, before they dared to take up the "problem" he created... faced with that, he did not bargain, or even flinch. That's "balls".
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"...you can't be a Christian and be chasing after money..."/QUOTE]

Jesus wasn't making ANYONE a Christian, and he was only preaching god's ways to ONE people, the Jews. Paul did the rest, Roman conspiracy or not.

I personally like the teachings of Jesus because he said we are all with faults... prostitutes, usurers, incompassionates, and criminals, EVERYONE, even Judas... and that despite this all, god loves everyone, they are part of his creation, and we must accept and love all, regardless of these faults.

I also believe in the "not what goes into a man's mouth, but what comes out" bit.

Also, contrary to what an earlier poster didn't understand, he was an "alpha male", at least according to whatever myth or fairy tale invented "alpha males". Those who were threatened the most by him that had power could not deal with him directly. They had to go higher and higher, until they had some "order" under a far-off, unseen emperor, before they dared to take up the "problem" he created... faced with that, he did not bargain, or even flinch. That's "balls".
I totally agree with the bolded. I am sorry if I did not explain that clearly in my post. Jesus was a true "alpha," not the fake kind we see encouraged in some literature.

Thanks for your post.
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I am drawn to Jesus because he is God and Man. He died on the cross for my sins. When God looks at me, he sees no sin because of Jesus death for me. Jesus is my Savior, my Beloved Redeemer who sacrificed it all for me.....I can't wait to meet him in Heaven!!
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All of the above...

Even if one doesn't believe in Jesus... I think we all want others to live his Parables -his ETHICS... if you will. What else really moves people but a compassion that goes beyond our own.

Humility is seen as weak to most people... but if it is balanced with a valiant spirit (lionhearted, heroic, courageousness)...then something happens....you stand in awe..with great respect.

He Had THAT going on ..or his story surely leaves behind...

I am drawn to people of character, those who show a genuineness in how they live their lives & handle their relationships.....when you can count on their word...not just to flatter in a moment, then forget you exist the next day or joke back.. "Oh you thought I meant that?"....

Making mistakes... being human ...we can't get away from that....but having the fortitude to go to the person you hurt, seek reconciliation/ mercy...determined to make it right "Leaving that gift at the alter' type thing....this is good, in line with Jesus teachings..love those sort of people...so I would also Love the Teacher of such ways..... no one needs to be perfect...it's all in the attitude, our motivations......the willingness to rise above where we are, own our own hand..

Jesus and Sinners...



There is just something about a repentant heart... isn't there...all of us screw up, we do things we shouldn't...speak harshly in a moment against someone...I think our conscience knows we are only hurting ourselves when we continue in this.. Jesus represents being able to find acceptance -no matter where we have been.. That's some pretty deep sh** depending on where we have BEEN.

Sometimes I feel those who have hit the gutters of life are more in tuned to this magnificent forgiveness & have a deeper appreciation for it over those who haven't been in those trenches & come out of it..Like Mary Magdalene...

.. List of Parables

So many... some that stand out to me.... The Prodigal son... the Good Samaritan.... Prayer of the Pharisee & tax Collector...Persistent Widow & Unjust Judge... Wise & the foolish builders... The Parable of the Un merciful Servant....just so many ...deep messages for our daily living...

I have to say this though... one my husband does not like....the widow & the 2 mites....anytime he hears this, he gets the idea God expects us to starve and give our last penny, like we should live on the streets like Paupers/ Hare Krishna's hanging at airports or something...... he rarely comes to church with me & when he does, it's like a running Joke that the widow & her penny will be in the sermon...

SA: All that I can say is a hearty "Amen!" from a card-carrying United Methodist!
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But you've got to largely remember that when "the Flesh became Word," it was the mystique of that Word that literally drew people to Him, because God came to this world as no one had ever expected Him to.
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Because he got consistent, steady results. A whole people came against the Christians. These were the most feared and respected minds of the times, who came against them. They gave Christianity the creedence it needed to flourish, whether you are an atheist or not.

"There must be something to this new religion. Let's find out what is so important, folks will give their very lives, the most important thing they have, just to be a part of it."

What was it? Finding that, will answer your questions.
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Why? Who knows.

That was an apocalyptic time they were living in so I imagine that Jesus coming along to preach of hope was a big factor in it. The Jews were getting shuffled around to and fro and people always want something good to hear.

I imagine he was very charismatic but w/o having lived in the time, it's hard to say what he was like, etc.

Nonetheless, he started a movement that generated a huge following.
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Jesus wasn't making ANYONE a Christian, and he was only preaching god's ways to ONE people, the Jews. Paul did the rest, Roman conspiracy or not.


And don't forget about Constantine's role in Christianity, cementing it as a major religion for a country.

I like to think that Jesus was a cool cat. I think I would have quite liked him. I do not imagine he was blonde and blue-eyed like those depictions show over and over again. I bet he had lovely caramel skin and was tall (in my mind, anyway).
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I like to think that Jesus was a cool cat. I think I would have quite liked him.I do not imagine he was blonde and blue-eyed like those depictions show over and over again. I bet he had lovely caramel skin and was tall (in my mind, anyway).
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