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post #1 of 89 (permalink) Old 03-27-2015, 02:58 PM Thread Starter
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Hey everyone,

I've come here to post a couple questions that are open for discussion.

Before I dive into it, I would like to state that normally I would only post such a question on a forum specific to these practices, but I thought it might be a great idea to get a "public" or "mainstream" opinion on it. My real hope is for a pagan couple to share their experiences.

A few years ago I took an apprenticeship from a shaman, with practices ranging from tibetan mastery to south american native beliefs and philosophies. The category to these beliefs and systems are technically "pagan/wiccan/occult". I do chakra healings, crystal healings, dream interpretation and teach various forms of meditations to those who seek to know.

I've known since the beginning that these aren't widely accepted in society. If it isn't labelled meta-physics/pseudoscience or hocus pocus it's labelled as evil/satanic/witchcraft. I can assure you it is non-of those things. The majority of these practices are based from hinduism, buddism, native american beliefs, druidism and teachings from tibetan monks. It's all about love and expanding your awareness. There is plenty of information available online for those curious in learning about this stuff.

Anyways, my questions are the following:

-To my fellow sorcerers, what obstacles have you encountered in seeking and building new relationships with other sorcerers/sorceresses? ?

-To everyone else, Would you even bother dating someone with this sort of spirituality? Why?

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Interesting topic, pragmaster. I've known - and dated - a few Pagans and Wiccans, and done (a little) reading, study and participative exploration into the beliefs and practices of shamanism, Wicca, chakras, etc. I can't say that I'm aware of the connections with Buddhism (although I identify mostly as Buddhist/Taoist) or Hinduism (except the chakra concepts).

I think any of these practices can be helpful in spiritual development, just as many of the more mainstream practices can be. By "spiritual" I really mean psycho-social development, as I don't think there is any real supernatural or occult basis for any such belief or practice, including those in the mainstream. Even so, I really enjoyed my researches and experiences, and found some very useful and enlightening in a variety of ways. It's also enriching to explore and understand a little about a variety of worldviews.

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Interesting topic indeed. I am Christian but I have several good friends that are pagan. I have attended quite a few sabbats and esbats. Additionally I have celebrated Samhain, Yule and the Feast of Hecate with my friends. I found the services to be energetic, pleasant and engaging. All the people I have met have been extremely accommodating, very nice and respectful. I in turn value their beliefs and am accepting of their spiritual convictions. My friends joke that I am probably a better pagan than many in their groups.

Having said that I must admit that I would hesitate to date someone that doesn't share my particular belief system. I just feel that it would create too many issues especially if the relationship would become permanent and children might enter the picture.

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I'm an atheist, but I think I would be okay with dating a pagan, et. al.
I'm not really that aware of enough of the specific beliefs to say.

I'm rather fond of Buddhism also.
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I used to frequent wiccan chatrooms on AOL many years ago, mostly to find out how many people were naked. Most were.

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Crystal healing means you fix peoples health problems with rocks?!!

No thanks I'll go to a regular doctor!
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Crystal healing means you fix peoples health problems with rocks?!!

No thanks I'll go to a regular doctor!
If you hit somebody over the head with a large enough crystal...I'm pretty sure that solves their problems... permanently.


For the record, I have studied many different types of religion as part of my psych training...everyone has their own comfort level with how far these deviate from traditional western models.
I tend to take it all in with a skeptical eye.

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Hahaha. Oh how those who know not know not! :P

Since the late 70's and thanks to prominent scientists/physicists such as Einstein, Carl Sagan and Michio Kaku, the Western world is finally catching up to our shamanic ancestors and labeling it "quantum physics". You guys really need to get informed lol. The collective consciousness, infinity, the dreaming body, the tree of life, etc...

A good book to read about is "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot, or watch any videos by Michio Kaku.

Crystals are amplifiers. "Science" has proven this and they have also proven that certain crystals can store information and energy (i.e. quartz). Science has even proven the existence of 7 power centers in the human body although, the sages of millenias past refer to them as chakras. Crystal healings are basically chakra clearings and we place a charged crystal near each chakra to amplify the clearing effects. It's not possible to disprove this anymore .

To each their own!

All I can say is when you dabble with otherworldly spirits...you better be prepared!

Come on! Where are the others on this forum? Surely I am not alone lol.

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I was a wiccan in my younger days. Okay I need to clarify--I really took time and studied many of the spiritual practices in the world. My time as a wiccan I would say was about 3-4 years (in that neighborhood) and I loved the aspects of a strong feminine identity and the aspect of learning from and working cooperatively with nature and the cycle rather than western "swimming against the tide." This became an off-shoot into a more natural, holistic, herbal view of healing the whole individual rather than "Here's a pill."

But I digress!

Right this moment, if I were single, I would not date someone who is pagan, not because I don't understand or because I think the spirituality is "weird" (if you know what I mean), but rather because after studying I've chose to follow the path of Christianity meaning a true believer and follower of Christ -- living like He lived and learning what He taught. Since that is my choice right now, I would feel incompatible with a person who was not also focusing on really trying to understand and study and emulate Christ. Does that make sense?

In many ways I learned a LOT from my years as a wiccan, and I think I've sort of incorporated some of that wise woman type of thinking pattern into the woman I am now. Yet since that is not how I choose to live now, I would find it difficult to be at unity with someone who is not intimate spiritually.


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I do agree pragmaster that we should pay more respect to our ancestors and their medicinal ways. It has recently been discovered that a recipe used more than a thousand years ago is effective over 90% of the time in treating MRSA, a staph bacteria heavily resistant to antibiotics. For some reason I find comfort in knowing that it is as rewarding to look back as it is enlightening to look forward.


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I worshipped Lonnie Anderson when I was a teen.

Does that count?
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It counts twice.


IF YA KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN'

Also, for some reason I read that as Louie Anderson the first time.

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I worshipped Lonnie Anderson when I was a teen.

Does that count?
That's a cult that I think most young men are part of..myself included.

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IF YA KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN'

Also, for some reason I read that as Louie Anderson the first time.

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I do agree pragmaster that we should pay more respect to our ancestors and their medicinal ways. It has recently been discovered that a recipe used more than a thousand years ago is effective over 90% of the time in treating MRSA, a staph bacteria heavily resistant to antibiotics. For some reason I find comfort in knowing that it is as rewarding to look back as it is enlightening to look forward.
Our ancestors thought draining blood out of someones body will cure them from bad illnesses!

Now 100s of years later people think rocks will cure them!

We need to move forward NOT backwards!
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