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post #16 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-04-2016, 11:26 AM
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Re: King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines

The # doesn't sound high to me at all. At only 1 a week it would take less than 20 years to hit 1000. One a week ! So even triple that is very doable.

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Maybe His Majesty was into group nookie
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Two points: 1) A virtuous woman is hard to find (he looked but he did not find), and 2) Don't choose a wife based on superficial criteria like he did.
A man who viewed women as cattle and who used them as property is used as an example of prove that it is hard to find a virtuous woman?

Maybe if he had been a virtuous man, he might have been able to find a virtuous woman.

Bad excuse.
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A man who viewed women as cattle and who used them as property is used as an example of prove that it is hard to find a virtuous woman?

Maybe if he had been a virtuous man, he might have been able to find a virtuous woman.

Bad excuse.
You're applying modern thinking to something that was done and widely practiced thousands of years ago.

For all we know, there were thousands more women willing to join his ranks. Free room and board, comfortable life, and have sex with a king once a year or two?
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You're applying modern thinking to something that was done and widely practiced thousands of years ago.

For all we know, there were thousands more women willing to join his ranks. Free room and board, comfortable life, and have sex with a king once a year or two?
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You nailed it! Example: Queen Esther and King Ahaseurus (Artaxerxes) Girls from all over Persia and nearby lands were lining up to "try out" for the queen-ship in to get out of their circumstances, or just to be the wife of a king. Even Esther initially got involved just to better her and her cousin Mordecai's poor situation.

Why are women hating Solomon, when many of these same people love the (stupid) movie, Pretty Woman? The only difference is that Richard Gere's character was a John, who preyed on a single unfortunate prostitute. At least Solomon provided very well of all his wives, most of whom were gifts that he couldn't refuse. And he took care of them and their families for their entire lives.
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Why are women hating Solomon, when many of these same people love the (stupid) movie, Pretty Woman? The only difference is that Richard Gere's character was a John, who preyed on a single unfortunate prostitute. At least Solomon provided very well of all his wives, most of whom were gifts that he couldn't refuse. And he took care of them and their families for their entire lives.
I woman can't hate Solomon because another woman loves the movie pretty woman
That makes zero sense.
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LOL well its good to be King, I guess.
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A man who viewed women as cattle and who used them as property is used as an example of prove that it is hard to find a virtuous woman?

Maybe if he had been a virtuous man, he might have been able to find a virtuous woman.

Bad excuse.
He wasn't just any man or any king; he was the wisest man to walk the earth. He had vast wisdom to discern and judge. His problem was he was chasing his lust and leading an immoral lifestyle. But I agree that had he been a virtuous man and obeyed God, he would have found a great woman, which is what he said at the end of his life: fear God and obey his commandments, for this is the duty of mankind.
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He wasn't just any man or any king; he was the wisest man to walk the earth. He had vast wisdom to discern and judge. His problem was he was chasing his lust and leading an immoral lifestyle. But I agree that had he been a virtuous man and obeyed God, he would have found a great woman, which is what he said at the end of his life: fear God and obey his commandments, for this is the duty of mankind.
I've always loved the book of Ecclesiastes.. one of my favorites... that and Proverbs, some feel it's pessimistic, "all is vanity & a chasing after the wind"...

What you said here is something I never contemplated or even thought about before...that Solomon had this over abundance of women but didn't devote himself, at the end, to any of them feeling he found what he wrote about ... did he even write these things... what about the Songs of Solomon.. who was he writing about then

I never looked into all of this..

Growing up, I always held the Proverbs 31 woman up as that example that I should be... I surely fell short in some areas.. I was good at saving money / good business woman ...I handled all those things & we've done well...Being by his side.. but not always such a good attitude.. I let "circumstances" get the best of me, more than should have been.. not enough patience & faith during our years of infertility... it was never HIM.. ... I give him a lot of credit for putting up with me, loving me through that, he was a trooper...



Speaking of Solomon's "chasing his lust and leading an immoral lifestyle"... sounds a lot like St Augustines life.. but in his case.. he turned so much against sex....

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Due to his younger years of pleasure seeking liaisons >>The Sex Animal Named Augustine ... when he got converted, he turned the bar too far in the opposite direction, twisting it's balance....like all desire was forbidden somehow, even in marriage...this is where the whole church went so wrong on sex... Augustine's writings, many of them needed thrown OUT !...

Let's go back to Solomon on that one ...
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My daughter said "Make me into a princess" so I tied her to a loveless marriage to a Spanish duke to strengthen our relationship with Prussia.

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That's a thousand women right there, and no men on earth could satisfy 1000 beautiful women. He used the vast wisdom that God gave him and forged alliances and treaties with many kingdoms and tribes, and every time a treaty was sealed, he would receive an attractive woman as a present. He wrote some very erotic poems about his beautiful women.

What he did was wrong in the sight of God but God allowed him to exercise his free will to chase after his lust. Even though he had many gorgeous women at his beck and call, King Solomon never mentioned finding that virtuous woman he described in Proverbs 31 10:31. Somewhere in Ecclesiastes, I believe, he said he searched but did not find even one. He had quantity, not quality.

What are the things you look for in a wife/husband?
1. I highly doubt he was concerned about pleasing 1000 women, let alone one woman.

2. Funny how he never seemed to find his Proverbs 31 gal. I fail to see how he could have got to know any of those women beyond the bedroom.

Regarding virtues, ones I look for in a husband...

Honesty (with God, self and others)
Transparency and being forthcoming
Emotional intimacy (which in largely equate with honesty)
Has integrity and does the right thing, even when no one's watching
On their own journey with God and working on improving themselves
Values my contributions and efforts at home or things i to to help him
Finds me funny and we can laugh together
Supports me in my dreams
Has a good work ethic
Loves God

My H is these things . Not always perfectly, but who is?
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Does such a woman exist?
Absolutely. And, no, I am not speaking of myself. I know I have flaws, in some of the areas Evin mentioned. But I do know a few wonderful ladies who fit this description. I think their husbands are very fortunate to have them... at the same time, I think these ladies are very fortunate to have their husbands, as well. Had they married different men, they may not have appreciated t h see ladies.

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That's a thousand women right there, and no men on earth could satisfy 1000 beautiful women.
Israeli archaeologists have been excavating areas near Jerusalem for many years, but no evidence of the existence of King Solomon has been found. Outside of the old testament, his name has not been found, yet there have been ample evidence of rulers in the area that had power before the supposed time of King Solomon.

"The conclusion accepted by a majority of the new archaeologists and Bible scholars was that there never was a great united monarchy and that King Solomon never had grand palaces in which he housed his 700 wives and 300 concubines.
"The Invention of the Jewish People" by Shlomo Sand (2009)


I guess that he could satisfy 1000 women in the same way that Superman can bend steel with his bare hands.
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