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He did! Now the snake thing is just Lucifer's way of wanting to be godlike by trying to destroy what God created and loved dearly. He was somewhat successful, man dies, but man's soul is eternal and there is no one or nothing to tempt it once the flesh is gone (hence why Jesus in the flesh was the only man fit for the job of saving humanity).

You have to remember that we kinda, sorta but not really know how God created us, we know bits and pieces of what has been going on, but we have no idea how it all pans out in the end. God created us free and eternal. **** happened and our flesh dies, but the part that is God like in us is still eternal and at no ones reach but God's. In the end, all shall be revealed. When is the end; that's the million dollar question?


"That's what I mean: next time let me design the universe and I'll make sure that everyone stays in paradise happily ever after and also omit making atheists from my plans. They are just too confusing and mildly irritating."

... and hence why no mere mortal can fill His shoes...sigh. Athieists are part of His plan too silly.
I wonder what his plan might be with atheists...humour the theists and then laugh at them while they burn in hell?
I also can't wait for all to be revealed. Sadly, I fear the ending might be disappointing. Like the last episode of Lost (where everyone is dead and dreaming crazy ****).

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I wonder what his plan might be with atheists...humour the theists and then laugh at them while they burn in hell?
I also can't wait for all to be revealed. Sadly, I fear the ending might be disappointing. Like the last episode of Lost (where everyone is dead and dreaming crazy ****).
If you seek God with this silly conclusions, is it any wonder you are so darn confused and haven't found nothing?

Dig deeper,

Good things come to those who wait...greater things come to those who get off their a$$ and do anything to make it happen.
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No. Well, maybe Aphrodite, Venus, Rati, or Aizen Myō-ō. But the difference is that my wife is real - gods are all fictional.
Sigh.....

And when your wife dies and to dust becomes....

And when the Earth is taken in a flash and all life in your limited "scope" become space dust....

And yet, God continues.....

This....This is the nub of the stick that pokes me in the eye when the light of day energizes my optic nerve....SunCMars.... The Allegory of the Cave--> On this, I did a '180' and stepped out.

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Sounds more like it is Jesus, who should be jealous of Dug. Can I sign up for a new religion to worship Dug? I believe he is real.
Just make sure you send me 10% of your income (before tax).

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Just make sure you send me 10% of your income (before tax).


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Everyone is born with original sin. It's because the woman from the rib messed up.
But Jesus made it go away by getting his dad to kill him. But kids still have to be baptised. Unless Jesus also covered the kids with his baptisms (some believe this version, otherwise hard to fathom they all end up in hell because of the rib woman).
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Just make sure you send me 10% of your income (before tax).
What do you intend to call the followers of your new religion.
And what is the religion going to be called.
Dug's' Disciples rolls off the tongue fairly neatly.
Make sure there is no confusion with DuG pinnick when you name your new religion.
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Hmmmm, not really but he does make me believe there is good and evil and sometimes they reside in the same person!
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Sigh.....

And when your wife dies and to dust becomes....

And when the Earth is taken in a flash and all life in your limited "scope" become space dust....

And yet, God continues.....
And yet, God dies every time a believer dies, as God lives only in their imagination.

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I would agree with you, under normal circumstances, but in this particular instance, you mentioned that the religious used to be patronising in the past and I brought up the fact that they were way more than that. I did not imply anything about the religious of today. Though now that you mention it...
I don't know how you can say that it doesn't matter what motivated the killings. Anyone who didn't agree with a particular ideology was nipped in the bud. Stalin didn't kill people because he wanted to spread "atheism" (that's non-sensical) he killed anyone who opposed him. As did most religions in the past. It's a historical fact. It's like saying that Mao mass-murdered because he was a vegetarian. I am not extrapolating anything about the current religious. Like I said, you actually brought up the comparison between now and then...But I agree with your sentiment: we should be tolerant of course of all kinds of crap, especially in the today world.




Come on, don't ruin it for me Light-hearted humour has never killed anyone. Nobody claims this 'thread' is "harmful".

Schools providing mis-information to children, on the other hand, can be argued to equal child abuse:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...-harm-children

* Christianity teaches children that they are intrinsically evil; they did nothing wrong, but just by being born and being alive, they are evil. This is a terrible thing to teach children, not only because it is false, but because it is the exact wrong message children should be taught, which is that they are intrinsically wonderful, noble, and lovable, and that they have boundless goodness inside them.

* Christianity teaches children that there exists a powerful, evil Devil. A most dangerous demon. Beware! This horrible falsity infuses their childhood with needless fear and dread, and teaches them that the world is a dangerous place, with a malevolent demon lurking in the wait. In my own research, I’ve interviewed many adults who describe the whole Satan thing as a decidedly traumatic element of their children, and in some egregious cases, unambiguously abusive.

* Christianity teaches children that God killed his own child to make up for our wickedness. In other words, we are evil, and by killing his own child, our evil is somehow wiped away and forgiven. Our guilt is cleansed. But how does that work? If I abuse my wife, and then a cop comes over and kills my son, does that atone for the wickedness I committed against my wife? How so? Only I can atone for my own wrongdoings and harmful actions. If I abuse my wife, I need to make amends in order to earn her forgiveness. I can’t kill our cat instead. And besides, why couldn’t God forgive us without killing his son? Does he require a blood sacrifice, like some pagan ogre? The entire story of Jesus “dying for our sins” makes no moral or ethical sense, and it is an extremely confusing/disturbing tale to tell our children.

* Christianity teaches children that those who accept Jesus as their personal savior are good/saved/going to heaven and those that do not accept Jesus as their personal savior are sinful and destined for hell. This can cause children to feel smug, superior, self-righteous, judgmental, and to look down upon and condemn others – be they kids on the schoolyard, neighbors, or even relatives.


It's up to you of course to decide whether it's "harmful". I do personally think that the kind of peace that some believers talk about, seems like a very beneficial and valuable thing and I do not mock that. In fact, I am positively jealous that i can't seem to convince myself to believe to have some of that.

I think you still are mis-understanding what "atheism" is. You are confusing militant atheism or anti-theism with 'regular' atheism, if there is such a thing...



How did you arrive at this "scientific" conclusion? (I would be genuinely interested to read more about it as it is a topic of interest for me). I do instinctively think you might be right though. I "fill up my brain" with all kinds of stuff & theories (holographic universe, multi-verses etc). those are all fascinating things to think about. But it's very different from being 100% convinced about something invisible constantly surveying you...
You're still trying to pin a statement on me which I did not make. What part of "When I was growing up" can't you understand? You brought the history of the world into it. Until then, mine was completely anecdotal. Then, as often happens with atheists, the "violent religious throughout history" grenade was thrown. My point was that people are people, and saying that atheists and the religious are different, because one is one and the other is another, with regards to violent acts against other humans is patently false. The reason that it is brought up by atheists is because they wish to smear all faiths with the taint of violence and oppression. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, regardless of any diversions on some people's part to avoid the comparison.

It's not logical. Religious and non-religious people can be violent, some for secular (godless) reasons, and others for religious reasons. To disclaim the actions of the godless because of their motives is fine, but they still were godless, and still committed atrocities. It can be argued that the faithful fought in the name of their God or gods, but not all, and the results were the same: Murdered innocents. Either way, if one wishes to judge good people on the basis that others were bad, then we're all a part of one group or another who's predecessors committed violent acts against others.

I illustrated your smear against the faithful by resorting to the same strategy against your ideology. You haven't murdered anyone (hopefully) and you resent the comparison that I made. What's the difference between what you've done and what I've done?

It is not your facts or so called facts. It is how you're using them to brand others, but you too can be branded in any number of ways, because your bloodline has existed since the dawn of life, in one form or another, and your associations are many. So, you and I both, by your logic, are guilty of (ironically) an "original sin" of some form or another.

As for you telling me that I don't understand atheism or "atheists", it's the same to me as Christians, Muslims, and Jews telling me that I don't understand them as well. So many sects. How can one keep track? I only go by what they call themselves and their behaviors. You would be well served to go to all of the so-called atheists (who claim the title but don't meet your definition) and tell them that they're not really atheists, that way, the purity of your message won't be tainted by impostors. As for me, you are you. What you label yourself is voluntary, with all of the positive and negative connotations.

I've found that there is always a diversion from so called atheists when one attempts to turn their strategies against them, usually like you have done, by redefining (or in your opinion "properly" defining) the term, conveniently excluding yourself from the negative connotations.

Now, when we get to the issue of scientific evidence of a "faith center" or similar (so many different terms are used) in the brains of humans, I have no desire to dig through my library and scan a bunch of JAMA, AJP, etc., articles, discussions, and papers on the subject, but if you really want to know, you'll find what you seek. In my practice (personal experience/observations), and before that, my tenure, it was a subject of study by many researchers.

Finally, what Christianity "teaches" children is not my area of expertise. It's always about the "poor mistreated children" when someone wants to strike a nerve, isn't it? I digress... I have found no direct systemic correlation between the teachings of Christianity and any harm to children, although I've found bad and good parents, teachers, and others, both religious and non-religious who have intentionally and unintentionally harmed their children. The fact that you, who I presume holds logic as supreme, would single out Christians as being somehow more harmful, shows that you are probably more of an anti-theist than an atheist, at least according to your definition of the term. As for Psychology Today's blog section, it is the McDonald's of psychological thought. Now, a serious multi-year and multi-generational study of religious vs. non-religious upbringings, with a wide cross section of children, coming to the conclusion that "Jesus screws up children", could be taken more seriously than the musings of the occasional non-Christian academic on a blog site. Seriously... that's hard evidence to you?

It is unfortunate, that as an agnostic, you don't have much of an emotional grip on me, or it would probably be more entertaining, no? I suppose you could smear the "I don't know" or agnostic crowd by posting examples of "Agnostics Gone Wild", except agnostics aren't generally the fanatical type. "I don't know" isn't exactly a recipe for fanaticism like religion, atheism (or anti-theism, or militant atheism, or... it's so confusing!) is.


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I am going by all the people I have known in the 60 years of my life and the 40 years of being a Christian.I go by what I see in the world around me, the falling moral values, the dishonesty, the selfishness.I see what people do, what they say and how they act. I see the people in my church and other churches and how different they are from that. Their high moral values, their honesty, their integrity, their compassion.

I have lived life with him and without Him, and believe me, we are not in the least brainwashed. I have never believed anything just because I was told to, only because its true.
My husband is a very intelligent man, a very logical thinker, a critical thinker,a scientist and medical researcher and a very strong Christian. God loves us to use our minds and thoughts. To learn and understand the universe around us. He often talks to God about His work.
My question was, where is your proof that religious men are more moral than non religious? I can equally say that in my 50 years of living a non religious life I have been surrounded by the most moral, honest men and non of them are religious.

What is you opinion on the worldwide epidemic of sexual abuse against children by church leaders?
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My question was, where is your proof that religious men are more moral than non religious? I can equally say that in my 50 years of living a non religious life I have been surrounded by the most moral, honest men and non of them are religious.

What is you opinion on the worldwide epidemic of sexual abuse against children by church leaders?
Not Diana, but I think it is appalling.

I heard once that churches and schools are big draws for pedophiles.

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Not Diana, but I think it is appalling.



I heard once that churches and schools are big draws for pedophiles.


What is your source?
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What is your source?
Ask me nicely and I'll tell you.

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