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post #31 of 157 (permalink) Old 04-08-2017, 10:18 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Does your spouse make you feel like God is real?

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All men lead. Some just suck.

I became a good leader and wasn't too bad to start with.

She did invite /lead me towards Christ in a very feminine fashion.
You have a good heart, Conan. The fact that you feel bad for breaking so many women's hearts tells me that.


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More like I took a very religious girl and showed her why I am an Atheist, and she came over to the dark side once she understood that she just believed because she was taught to and a lot of things she believed, when studied, did not make sense when forced to exam her beliefs rather than just blindly believe them.

Yet we are good people, better than a lot of religious people we know. We just conduct ourselves in a way that does no harm to others. All of our friends are deeply religious and we sometimes have good natured discussions to try to understand each other. What we all have in common is that we are all easy going, pet loving people who help others and do no harm to anyone. In the end, this is what matters. Does anyone really want to worship a God who rejects good people because they did not knell down before him? That is a not a good and loving God. That is the same old God from ancient times. Every period in history believed and killed for their God but as time passed, so did the God's they worshipped, and so it will be with today's Gods.

Many prefer to drown in a pool of their own morality rather than seek the safety of a different morality.

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I never expected Dug to be like Jesus. He just is.

I wish I could find that sermon. The minister was talking about how husbands set an image for their wives of what Jesus is like. That is why it is so important for husbands to strive for goodness in themselves, to imitate his example, and be what their wives need. It truly is a responsibility.

It was such a good talk, what I remember from it, anyway. There was such honesty, such genuineness, to it. No defensiveness. Just heartfelt sharing from one genuine man to other men humble enough to listen.
There are many godly men, my husband is one, but we ALL have weaknesses and failings, including your husband.
Dont put him on a pedestal. Its not wise.
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I am surrounded by amazing men full of integrity and solid morals. Non of them are religious which is a must for me to be able to take them seriously as men. I feel that people that have to be told by a third party how to behave are not trustworthy or truly great people.

So no MrH does not make me believe god is real, he could never do that as I would never believe in god and neither does he,
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I understand your choice of wording, and yes my DH does make me feel like God is real.
Nothing could persuade me to think otherwise, anyway.. In our marriage we daily ask through prayer for the strength to be good marriage mates to each other. I believe he answers our prayers.

We have really thrown some very heavy things to God to have him direct us on the right path. Many times we have seen answers come in ways that could only be credited as being Gods answer/direction in our behalf.

I have also seen God work on my husband a lot with his own qualities and issues, and the only change he made was reestablishing his relationship with God. I am always impressed at how far he has cone. I hope he feels the same about me.

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There are many godly men, my husband is one, but we ALL have weaknesses and failings, including your husband.
Dont put him on a pedestal. Its not wise.
We all have our faults, including my husband.

And whatever position he holds in my eyes, at any time, he has earned.

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I am surrounded by amazing men full of integrity and solid morals. Non of them are religious which is a must for me to be able to take them seriously as men. I feel that people that have to be told by a third party how to behave are not trustworthy or truly great people.

So no MrH does not make me believe god is real, he could never do that as I would never believe in god and neither does he,
We don't act the way we do because we are told to, but because we know its the right thing to do. We also know that there is always room for improvement and we want to be better people. Yes there are many truly great and completely trustworthy people who are Christians. I have so many who I would trust completely.

I know very few men who aren't Christians who have good moral values, complete honesty and integrity. I can only think of one right now and that is is my brother.

It takes a very strong man to go against the flow of the worlds standards. A man who is completely honest. Who doesn't look at porn. Who doesn't have sex outside marriage. Who doesn't cheat on his tax returns. Who puts himself out for others. Who always treats others with fairness and decency etc etc.
There are very few men like that.
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My experience is:

Truly rich people rately show off their money. They don't need to.

Wives/husbands who are constantly facebooking about their perfect family, amazing vacations, and bragging about how awesome their spouses and lives are---/ 99% of the time have the worst relationships of anyone. All fake.

JLD, you are constantly bragging about Dug.
Great JLD. We are happy for you. He makes you think of Jesus.
He's a great guy.

Where's this huge need to tell anyone who will listen, coming from??????????!!!!

Are you trying to convince yourself of something? I just don't get it.
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My experience is:

Truly rich people rately show off their money. They don't need to.

Wives/husbands who are constantly facebooking about their perfect family, amazing vacations, and bragging about how awesome their spouses and lives are---/ 99% of the time have the worst relationships of anyone. All fake.

JLD, you are constantly bragging about Dug.
Great JLD. We are happy for you. He makes you think of Jesus.
He's a great guy.

Where's this huge need to tell anyone who will listen, coming from??????????!!!!

Are you trying to convince yourself of something? I just don't get it.
That is interesting, that you think I am bragging about him. To me, I am just expressing my honest feelings about him.

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We don't act the way we do because we are told to, but because we know its the right thing to do. We also know that there is always room for improvement and we want to be better people. Yes there are many truly great and completely trustworthy people who are Christians. I have so many who I would trust completely.

I know very few men who aren't Christians who have good moral values, complete honesty and integrity. I can only think of one right now and that is is my brother.

It takes a very strong man to go against the flow of the worlds standards. A man who is completely honest. Who doesn't look at porn. Who doesn't have sex outside marriage. Who doesn't cheat on his tax returns. Who puts himself out for others. Who always treats others with fairness and decency etc etc.
There are very few men like that.
I know many men that are amazing people of very high value, my ex and current husband, my dad, brothers, co workers (I work for a NFP, charity) extended family etc. Interestingly my best friends husband has just come out as a cheater, he is a so called religious man.

My dad is a silent philanthropist to the tune of a millions of dollars. He has never cheated on his tax (actually I don't know anyone that has) and he employs many people at well above award wages.

All the men I am surrounded by treat others with fairness and decency (and yes also the few religious friends I have do too) being non religious and being a good person are not mutually exclusive.

Being religious does not in any way mean a person has higher values, is less likely to look at porn, cheat on tax returns and it is very naive to think otherwise. Just have a look at what is going on world wide with the church and child sex abuse. How about tax avoidance or misogyny? Religious men, like non religious men are involved in crime, abuse, cheating, porn watching and other vices. Repressed people are capable of the most heinous of actions, this is not only the realm of the non religious.

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Well, it's odd to me. But I am happy for you that you think about your husband all the time in a good way. I hope to have that myself one day.

My ex was a fake person. Her church/religion stuff was all for show. She'd get up and sing during church and cry just to get attention. It was all a social event for her. I remember her wearing revealing clothes and telling me so-and-so was looking at her legs.

If your husband is showing you Godly behavior at home when there's nobody around to impress but you, that is a cool thing.

Like another poster said, you do have him on a pedestal. Healthy or not, I do think it's a great thing to be able to leave him there and never have to feel the pain of your mental image of him come crashing down off of it.

I have got to wonder how you can have such a great feeling for your husband, and have a poor feeling about men in general. Your dichotomy with male and female cheaters, I mean...

Either way, my input is pretty useless in this topic. Mine didn't inspire me very often. And what happened at the end and at present kind of turned/turns me off to religion.


So I've had the opposite happen. Does that count, lol
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Well, it's odd to me. But I am happy for you that you think about your husband all the time in a good way. I hope to have that myself one day.

My ex was a fake person. Her church/religion stuff was all for show. She'd get up and sing during church and cry just to get attention. It was all a social event for her. I remember her wearing revealing clothes and telling me so-and-so was looking at her legs.

If your husband is showing you Godly behavior at home when there's nobody around to impress but you, that is a cool thing.

Like another poster said, you do have him on a pedestal. Healthy or not, I do think it's a great thing to be able to leave him there and never have to feel the pain of your mental image of him come crashing down off of it.

I have got to wonder how you can have such a great feeling for your husband, and have a poor feeling about men in general. Your dichotomy with male and female cheaters, I mean...

Either way, my input is pretty useless in this topic. Mine didn't inspire me very often. And what happened at the end and at present kind of turned/turns me off to religion.


So I've had the opposite happen. Does that count, lol
I tend to feel sorry for both male and female cheaters. To me, if you are unhappy enough to cheat, you are probably not in the right marriage. And what a horrible thing to have on your conscience.

I think good men are few and far between, sadly. But the good ones deserve whatever honor they are accorded. They have earned it.

Hope you can find someone who will be a good match for you, Evinrude. A happy partnership really can make life more enjoyable.

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I think, iirc, that Jesus is the groom and the church is the bride; according to Christian theology.

And husbands are supposed to sacrifice themselves for their wives as Jesus sacrificed himself for the church.

Lofty ideals. But I don't see God in the face of any human being. I do get a sense of him in creation overall. I do believe in intelligent design.

Yeah, my trust in human beings is completely insufficient for me to think that they resemble God.

I hope that your trust in Dug is never misplaced, jld. It's great to hear that you are so happy and in love with each other.
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I bet he looks at porn and wacks off to other women. How's that change your perception?


Horrid, rancid remark. Did it make you feel good? Why?
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I know many men that are amazing people of very high value, my ex and current husband, my dad, brothers, co workers (I work for a NFP, charity) extended family etc. Interestingly my best friends husband has just come out as a cheater, he is a so called religious man.

My dad is a silent philanthropist to the tune of a millions of dollars. He has never cheated on his tax (actually I don't know anyone that has) and he employs many people at well above award wages.

All the men I am surrounded by treat others with fairness and decency (and yes also the few religious friends I have do too) being non religious and being a good person are not mutually exclusive.

Being religious does not in any way mean a person has higher values, is less likely to look at porn, cheat on tax returns and it is very naive to think otherwise. Just have a look at what is going on world wide with the church and child sex abuse. How about tax avoidance or misogyny? Religious men, like non religious men are involved in crime, abuse, cheating, porn watching and other vices. Repressed people are capable of the most heinous of actions, this is not only the realm of the non religious.
I am a non religious Christian, if that makes sense, and I happen to agree with this post wholeheartedly!
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