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Horrid, rancid remark. Did it make you feel good? Why?
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Kind of bizarre???

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I know many men that are amazing people of very high value, my ex and current husband, my dad, brothers, co workers (I work for a NFP, charity) extended family etc. Interestingly my best friends husband has just come out as a cheater, he is a so called religious man.

My dad is a silent philanthropist to the tune of a millions of dollars. He has never cheated on his tax (actually I don't know anyone that has) and he employs many people at well above award wages.

All the men I am surrounded by treat others with fairness and decency (and yes also the few religious friends I have do too) being non religious and being a good person are not mutually exclusive.

Being religious does not in any way mean a person has higher values, is less likely to look at porn, cheat on tax returns and it is very naive to think otherwise. Just have a look at what is going on world wide with the church and child sex abuse. How about tax avoidance or misogyny? Religious men, like non religious men are involved in crime, abuse, cheating, porn watching and other vices. Repressed people are capable of the most heinous of actions, this is not only the realm of the non religious.
We will have to agree to disagree on this. All I cant say is that in the 40 years I have mixed with believers and been a Christian, I have seen and known so many really moral, kind, honest, decent men. I have known very few outside the church.
Yes Christians are far less likely to look at porn and have sex outside marriage. Hardly anyone outside the church doesn't, you can see this on this forum alone, most think its normal behaviour.
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I am a non religious Christian, if that makes sense, and I happen to agree with this post wholeheartedly!
I agree, there is a massive difference between all 'religious' people, and those who follow Jesus Christ. I am not in the least religious, but I am a Christian, and I know countless lovely Christians who don't act that way.
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I tend to feel sorry for both male and female cheaters. To me, if you are unhappy enough to cheat, you are probably not in the right marriage. And what a horrible thing to have on your conscience.

I think good men are few and far between, sadly. But the good ones deserve whatever honor they are accorded. They have earned it.

Hope you can find someone who will be a good match for you, Evinrude. A happy partnership really can make life more enjoyable.
I know so many marriages where one cheated, and it isn't always because they are unhappy, but because they took an opportunity and had no boundaries or moral values. Some even admitted that it wasn't due to anything wrong in the marriage. I dont feel at ALL sorry for the cheater, I feel sorry for the cheated on and the innocent children whose lives they have devastated.

I too feel blessed to have a really good husband of 11 years, he is the most moral man I have even known and I trust him completely, but Jesus is perfect. He is our Lord and Saviour. There is no one like Him and never will be.
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We will have to agree to disagree on this. All I cant say is that in the 40 years I have mixed with believers and been a Christian, I have seen and known so many really moral, kind, honest, decent men. I have known very few outside the church.
Yes Christians are far less likely to look at porn and have sex outside marriage. Hardly anyone outside the church doesn't, you can see this on this forum alone, most think its normal behaviour.
Where is your proof that religious men are more decent men than non religious? It is so naive to believe that blindly following a religion makes one person better than another. Honestly the world would be a far better, less conflicted place without religion.

But yes we will have to agree to disagree, one of us one of us is brainwashed, the other a critical thinker, the discussion is futile.
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Religious people may be more predictable...
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Nope, for exactly the same reasons she doesn't make me think the tooth fairy is real.
Can't sum it up any better than this.
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Where is your proof that religious men are more decent men than non religious? It is so naive to believe that blindly following a religion makes one person better than another. Honestly the world would be a far better, less conflicted place without religion.

But yes we will have to agree to disagree, one of us one of us is brainwashed, the other a critical thinker, the discussion is futile.
I am going by all the people I have known in the 60 years of my life and the 40 years of being a Christian.I go by what I see in the world around me, the falling moral values, the dishonesty, the selfishness.I see what people do, what they say and how they act. I see the people in my church and other churches and how different they are from that. Their high moral values, their honesty, their integrity, their compassion.

I have lived life with him and without Him, and believe me, we are not in the least brainwashed. I have never believed anything just because I was told to, only because its true.
My husband is a very intelligent man, a very logical thinker, a critical thinker,a scientist and medical researcher and a very strong Christian. God loves us to use our minds and thoughts. To learn and understand the universe around us. He often talks to God about His work.
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When my first marriage(to a non Christian) ended after 23 years, I made a decision that I would not even consider a man unless he had a strong faith in God. I know that this cut down my chances of meeting anyone by about 90-95%, as there are so few Christians in the UK, and also more Christian women than men, but I knew that was the right thing to do.

After 6 years of being single we met, married 9 months later, and I am so glad I waited for the right guy.
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Mine does. When I consider his integrity, his character, his commitment to all that is good, it is not a leap to believe there is a force much greater than he is, who inspired all that he is.

I remember attending my parents' 50th wedding anniversary Mass 20 years ago and reflecting, during the Eucharistic prayers, on how much the description of Jesus sounded like Dug. It is the same all loving, all committed spirit.
Does he not get jealous of Jesus?

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My husband is a really good man with such character, so much integrity, and the nicest man I have ever known, but no, he isn't like God. He is still a fallible human being as we all are. He is godly but not God. He has a very close relationship with God and I love that about Him.

Don't try and put anyone on a par with the God who created the universe, the poor man will never live up to it.
You never know. If i could have a go at making a universe from scratch, i could definitely think of a couple of "upgrades". For a start, I wouldn't have put a mysterious tree with a talking snake in the middle of the garden and give very vague instructions about not eating the fruits (and conveniently avoiding the actual issue). It's as if he deliberately wanted to have the garden all to himself. If it was me, I'd make sure we would still all be living in paradise.
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I never expected Dug to be like Jesus. He just is.

I wish I could find that sermon. The minister was talking about how husbands set an image for their wives of what Jesus is like. That is why it is so important for husbands to strive for goodness in themselves, to imitate his example, and be what their wives need. It truly is a responsibility.

It was such a good talk, what I remember from it, anyway. There was such honesty, such genuineness, to it. No defensiveness. Just heartfelt sharing from one genuine man to other men humble enough to listen.
Sounds more like it is Jesus, who should be jealous of Dug. Can I sign up for a new religion to worship Dug? I believe he is real.
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I am a non religious Christian, if that makes sense,
Cool! What's this? How do you separate the two? What do you believe/not believe in? Or are you just supporting your wife etc?
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More like I took a very religious girl and showed her why I am an Atheist, and she came over to the dark side once she understood that she just believed because she was taught to and a lot of things she believed, when studied, did not make sense when forced to exam her beliefs rather than just blindly believe them.

Yet we are good people, better than a lot of religious people we know. We just conduct ourselves in a way that does no harm to others. All of our friends are deeply religious and we sometimes have good natured discussions to try to understand each other. What we all have in common is that we are all easy going, pet loving people who help others and do no harm to anyone.
It's always fun converting a religious with sex. You are the snake and she bit your apple :-) You know what will happen to both of you I presume...
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I am going by all the people I have known in the 60 years of my life and the 40 years of being a Christian.I go by what I see in the world around me, the falling moral values, the dishonesty, the selfishness.I see what people do, what they say and how they act. I see the people in my church and other churches and how different they are from that. Their high moral values, their honesty, their integrity, their compassion.
That's because you might not be mixing much with people outside of your church. If you meet me & my wife, you might change your mind :-) There's plenty of rotten stuff going on in churches, sorry to burst the bubble...People are people. I agree we should strive to higher values but that won't be achieved by segregating non-believers as the "lesser" people...If I gave you a horse and and sword and you made the statement from your previous post I would worry we are back to the crusades...

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I have lived life with him and without Him, and believe me, we are not in the least brainwashed. I have never believed anything just because I was told to, only because its true.
That's....a contradiction. You were told god is true. You can't know that god is there. He doesn't seem to like to socialise it seems and nobody has ever seen him, as far as I know...
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