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A lot of Catholics feel the same.They talk about purgatory where souls denied entry into heaven can languish for centuries waiting for Gods mercy and the prayers of people on earth to finally gain entry.Then on a real happy note we have Limbo,not the dance but a special place where babies who die before been baptised are sent for eternity.If you are a strong believer and happen to have a baby which passes away before christening you can spend the rest of your life knowing your baby will never see heaven.This was updated in 2007 to say that the Vatican "hoped"unchristened babies can now get into heaven but it is still unclear about babies who died before this.
The RC church is way off track.

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My husband is Catholic and does not believe in hell. He says everyone goes to heaven.
He clearly doesn't read the Bible then.
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Other than having sex outside marriage I agree with everything you have said.Why is marriage such a be all and end all in your opinion.I am not married but I am honest,faithful,I don't look at porn,I don't cheat on my taxes,I donate to charity and to the church and I treat everybody with respect and dignity.But in your opinion because I am not married to my partner there is something unchristianlike about me?
It depends on whether you want to follow Jesus Christ or not. We are told that sex is for marriage only.
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I am not religious despite being born a catholic,it is the hypocrisy that I can't stomach.I will tell you one thing that is one hundred percent true and anyone that doubts it is naive in the extreme.All major religions are big business and in business money is god.They all worship at the same altar and depending on where you are it is made from dollars,pounds or euros.There is always a loophole,think about indulgences.Do whatever you want all your life but attend mass in a Catholic Church on the first Friday of the month for ten months and you will see heaven,not a bad deal.The older popes sold indulgences the same as St Christopher's medals.
Tha's why I stay RIGHT away from the RC church. They are way off track and most of their beliefs and teachings are are unbiblical, and some even heretical.
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Yes there are many false gods but only one True God.
Don't make me guess!

Is it Ishtar?

Inanna (Ishtar)

Origin: Mesopotamia (Iraq)
Inanna is the Sumerian goddess of sex, war, and fertility. She later became known as Ishtar, and is associated with lions and the planet Venus. Inanna is known for her capricious and prolific sexual desires and unions. She was once raped by a lowly gardener called Shukaletuda while she slept under his poplar tree. In a fit of rage, she turned the rivers to blood, covered the Earth with storms, and tormented the people with disease. She eventually found her attacker and killed him.

Inanna has a tendency to kill or sacrifice her lovers. In the Epic of Gilgamesh she tries to seduce King Gilgamesh. When he refuses, she releases the Bull of Heaven in an attempt to kill him. Gilgamesh's refusal focuses on his concern for the fate of her numerous past lovers. This includes the speckled allallu-bird whose wing she broke, the lion who she dug a pit for, the horse who she consigned to being whipped and lashed, the shepherd who she turned into a wolf, and the gardener who she turned into a dwarf.

When Inanna gains access to the underworld to attend the funeral of the Bull of Heaven (who Gilgamesh killed), the ruler, Ereshkigal, makes her pass through seven gates. At each gate she is told to remove a piece of clothing or jewelry until she is naked and powerless. The audacious Inanna sits on Ereshkigal's throne and is punished by being turned into a corpse and hung upside-down from hooks. Many of the gods blame Inanna for her fate, but Enki decides to rescue her. As no-one can leave the underworld, a deal is struck in which someone must take her place. Inanna refuses to sacrifice one of her servants, but she has no problem with Ereshkigal taking her husband, Dumuzi, who she thought hadn't mourned her enough. The poor Dumuzi is dragged into the underworld by demons, and Inanna has the temerity to mourn him.
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Do you lose any sleep over any of that?

I certainly don't.
When I was a kid in school our religion teacher told us there were three unforgivable sins.
Sex outside marriage.
Homosexuality.
Contraception.
My gf has just had our baby.
My best friend and roommate for years is a lesbian.
As for condoms.😬
I think I'm going to hell.
Except I don't believe in hell.
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A lot of Catholics feel the same.They talk about purgatory where souls denied entry into heaven can languish for centuries waiting for Gods mercy and the prayers of people on earth to finally gain entry.Then on a real happy note we have Limbo,not the dance but a special place where babies who die before been baptised are sent for eternity.If you are a strong believer and happen to have a baby which passes away before christening you can spend the rest of your life knowing your baby will never see heaven.This was updated in 2007 to say that the Vatican "hoped"unchristened babies can now get into heaven but it is still unclear about babies who died before this.
This isn't only a Catholic belief. I was raised in a strict Lutheran house, and when my 3 week old daughter was in the hospital, the pastor came to see us and made sure I knew how to give her an emergency baptism 'just in case'. Freaking freaked me out. Especially since a) she wasn't THAT sick and b) I wasn't a regular church goer. I think my mom sicced him on me.

I did have all my kids baptized, more to appease my parents than for any other reason. I drank the kool aid in a big way for part of my adult life, haven't been to church now in probably a decade.

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Don't make me guess!

Is it Ishtar?

Inanna (Ishtar)

Origin: Mesopotamia (Iraq)
Inanna is the Sumerian goddess of sex, war, and fertility. She later became known as Ishtar, and is associated with lions and the planet Venus. Inanna is known for her capricious and prolific sexual desires and unions. She was once raped by a lowly gardener called Shukaletuda while she slept under his poplar tree. In a fit of rage, she turned the rivers to blood, covered the Earth with storms, and tormented the people with disease. She eventually found her attacker and killed him.

Inanna has a tendency to kill or sacrifice her lovers. In the Epic of Gilgamesh she tries to seduce King Gilgamesh. When he refuses, she releases the Bull of Heaven in an attempt to kill him. Gilgamesh's refusal focuses on his concern for the fate of her numerous past lovers. This includes the speckled allallu-bird whose wing she broke, the lion who she dug a pit for, the horse who she consigned to being whipped and lashed, the shepherd who she turned into a wolf, and the gardener who she turned into a dwarf.

When Inanna gains access to the underworld to attend the funeral of the Bull of Heaven (who Gilgamesh killed), the ruler, Ereshkigal, makes her pass through seven gates. At each gate she is told to remove a piece of clothing or jewelry until she is naked and powerless. The audacious Inanna sits on Ereshkigal's throne and is punished by being turned into a corpse and hung upside-down from hooks. Many of the gods blame Inanna for her fate, but Enki decides to rescue her. As no-one can leave the underworld, a deal is struck in which someone must take her place. Inanna refuses to sacrifice one of her servants, but she has no problem with Ereshkigal taking her husband, Dumuzi, who she thought hadn't mourned her enough. The poor Dumuzi is dragged into the underworld by demons, and Inanna has the temerity to mourn him.
I think I dated her for a while.Very high maintenance but good fun all the same.
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Don't make me guess!

Is it Ishtar?

Inanna (Ishtar)

Origin: Mesopotamia (Iraq)
Inanna is the Sumerian goddess of sex, war, and fertility. She later became known as Ishtar, and is associated with lions and the planet Venus. Inanna is known for her capricious and prolific sexual desires and unions. She was once raped by a lowly gardener called Shukaletuda while she slept under his poplar tree. In a fit of rage, she turned the rivers to blood, covered the Earth with storms, and tormented the people with disease. She eventually found her attacker and killed him.

Inanna has a tendency to kill or sacrifice her lovers. In the Epic of Gilgamesh she tries to seduce King Gilgamesh. When he refuses, she releases the Bull of Heaven in an attempt to kill him. Gilgamesh's refusal focuses on his concern for the fate of her numerous past lovers. This includes the speckled allallu-bird whose wing she broke, the lion who she dug a pit for, the horse who she consigned to being whipped and lashed, the shepherd who she turned into a wolf, and the gardener who she turned into a dwarf.

When Inanna gains access to the underworld to attend the funeral of the Bull of Heaven (who Gilgamesh killed), the ruler, Ereshkigal, makes her pass through seven gates. At each gate she is told to remove a piece of clothing or jewelry until she is naked and powerless. The audacious Inanna sits on Ereshkigal's throne and is punished by being turned into a corpse and hung upside-down from hooks. Many of the gods blame Inanna for her fate, but Enki decides to rescue her. As no-one can leave the underworld, a deal is struck in which someone must take her place. Inanna refuses to sacrifice one of her servants, but she has no problem with Ereshkigal taking her husband, Dumuzi, who she thought hadn't mourned her enough. The poor Dumuzi is dragged into the underworld by demons, and Inanna has the temerity to mourn him.
God the Father of Jesus Christ.
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When I was a kid in school our religion teacher told us there were three unforgivable sins.
Sex outside marriage.
Homosexuality.
Contraception.
My gf has just had our baby.
My best friend and roommate for years is a lesbian.
As for condoms.😬
I think I'm going to hell.
Except I don't believe in hell.
You'll be ok if you repent last minute. But you have to do it like you mean it. If I am not mistaken Christianity is so popular because it's the only religion where you can commit genocide, rape and kill and still go to heaven after repenting. While an unbaptised child or a regular person who hasn't hurt a fly (but does not believe) will have a harder time getting in.

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This isn't only a Catholic belief. I was raised in a strict Lutheran house, and when my 3 week old daughter was in the hospital, the pastor came to see us and made sure I knew how to give her an emergency baptism 'just in case'. Freaking freaked me out. Especially since a) she wasn't THAT sick and b) I wasn't a regular church goer. I think my mom sicced him on me.

I did have all my kids baptized, more to appease my parents than for any other reason. I drank the kool aid in a big way for part of my adult life, haven't been to church now in probably a decade.
Jeez you just triggered me.We had to learn how to do emergency baptisms in school.I was about eight at the time.
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When I was a kid in school our religion teacher told us there were three unforgivable sins.
Sex outside marriage.
Homosexuality.
Contraception.
My gf has just had our baby.
My best friend and roommate for years is a lesbian.
As for condoms.😬
I think I'm going to hell.
Except I don't believe in hell.
Clearly a RC teacher. Again, none of that is Biblical. All those things can be forgiven if you ask, and preventing conception in birth control isn't forbidden anyway.

What saves us is believing in and following Jesus Christ.
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Jeez you just triggered me.We had to learn how to do emergency baptisms in school.I was about eight at the time.
EIGHT?? WTF.

I just can't get behind anything that manufactures this type of scenario. To think that a newborn baby could be condemned to spend ETERNITY suffering in any way just because some obscure ritual wasn't performed correctly in time...............it boggles my mind. And can you imagine the guilt an 8 year old would carry if god forbid they were ever in a situation where they could have performed said ritual and didn't????

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You'll be ok if you repent last minute. But you have to do it like you mean it. If I am not mistaken Christianity is so popular because it's the only religion where you can commit genocide, rape and kill and still go to heaven after repenting. While an unbaptised child or a regular person who hasn't hurt a fly (but does not believe) will have a harder time getting in.
I have to say, inmyprime, you have really provided some entertainment in this thread.

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EIGHT?? WTF.

I just can't get behind anything that manufactures this type of scenario. To think that a newborn baby could be condemned to spend ETERNITY suffering in any way just because some obscure ritual wasn't performed correctly in time...............it boggles my mind. And can you imagine the guilt an 8 year old would carry if god forbid they were ever in a situation where they could have performed said ritual and didn't????
Its another nonsense belief by the RCs. Infant sprinkling makes no difference and isnt Biblical.
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