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Its another nonsense belief by the RCs. Infant sprinkling makes no difference and isnt Biblical.
Apparently Lutherans also believe this - see my first post about it.


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You'll be ok if you repent last minute. But you have to do it like you mean it. If I am not mistaken Christianity is so popular because it's the only religion where you can commit genocide, rape and kill and still go to heaven after repenting. While an unbaptised child or a regular person who hasn't hurt a fly (but does not believe) will have a harder time getting in.
I think you must know very few genuine Christians. You have a very wrong view of us.
God is perfectly able to tell if people really mean it or not.
Repentance isn't just saying a few words to get to heaven, its a complete change of heart and life. Its turning your life around and heading in the other direction. Its getting off the wide road and onto the narrow one.Its following Jesus Christ when its not PC to do so. Its going against the flow.

Yes forgiveness is possible for the worse of sins, IF the one repenting is REALLY serious and genuine. I love it that God gives us a second chance and new beginning.
In the worlds eyes I may be a 'good' person.IE I don't steal, lie, get drunk, cheat, treat people badly, take illegal drugs, swear, etc etc but I am well aware of my weaknesses and failings, and that why I need Jesus Christ. Whether we do really terrible things or smaller ones we are all sinners in the end.
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Apparently Lutherans also believe this - see my first post about it.
The anglican church also does this(i was baptised as a baby) but its only the RC church that believes a baby isn't saved unless they are baptised. Its nonsense.
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You'll be ok if you repent last minute. But you have to do it like you mean it. If I am not mistaken Christianity is so popular because it's the only religion where you can commit genocide, rape and kill and still go to heaven after repenting. While an unbaptised child or a regular person who hasn't hurt a fly (but does not believe) will have a harder time getting in.
When I'm in a strange city or town I like checking out old buildings and churches etc.I was once in small town in Ireland that had a very impressive cathedral.While I was there I was struck by the amount of kids walking through the building and leaving again.Then I realised it was the same group of kids coming in,saying a short prayer and leaving and then coming back in again.It turned out that the parish had reopened a side door that had been locked for years and the bishop had asked the Vatican to do something to boost attendance.The Vatican declared a new indulgence and anyone who passed through the door ten times,stopped and prayed for a while and then attended mass the next seven days were granted an indulgence.The indulgence was not for themselves though it had to be a relative or family friend.The catholic schools got in on the act so every Friday afternoon there were classrooms empty because all the little Catholics were going in and out a door to ensure someone got into heaven.You couldn't make it up.
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I think you must know very few genuine Christians. You have a very wrong view of us.
God is perfectly able to tell if people really mean it or not.
Repentance isn't just saying a few words to get to heaven, its a complete change of heart and life. Its turning your life around and heading in the other direction. Its getting off the wide road and onto the narrow one.Its following Jesus Christ when its not PC to do so. Its going against the flow.

Yes forgiveness is possible for the worse of sins, IF the one repenting is REALLY serious and genuine. I love it that God gives us a second chance and new beginning.
In the worlds eyes I may be a 'good' person.IE I don't steal, lie, get drunk, cheat, treat people badly, take illegal drugs, swear, etc etc but I am well aware of my weaknesses and failings, and that why I need Jesus Christ. Whether we do really terrible things or smaller ones we are all sinners in the end.
That's why I said you have to mean it!
Isn't it common to have a priest come to your death bed so you can repent and be absolved of your sins? When you are scared and it's time to face things, who is not going to repent and mean it?
In Jewish tradition, one carries around the sins forever, I don't think there is any way to absolve or repent. I do think this is one of the vital aspects why Christianity is so popular: t's much nicer living without sins, then with the sins, is it not? "Having another chance" as you said. And "meaning it" doesn't seem especially difficult.
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The anglican church also does this(i was baptised as a baby) but its only the RC church that believes a baby isn't saved unless they are baptised. Its nonsense.
Could you explain to me why even little kids,learning their first prayers beg for forgiveness.What have they done that needs forgiving.The first prayer any child learns contain the line" forgive us our trespasses".The next prayer they learn contains the line "pray for us sinners".I have never understood this.
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Could you explain to me why even little kids,learning their first prayers beg for forgiveness.What have they done that needs forgiving.The first prayer any child learns contain the line" forgive us our trespasses".The next prayer they learn contains the line "pray for us sinners".I have never understood this.
Everyone is born with original sin. It's because the woman from the rib messed up.
But Jesus made it go away by getting his dad to kill him. But kids still have to be baptised. Unless Jesus also covered the kids with his baptisms (some believe this version, otherwise hard to fathom they all end up in hell because of the rib woman).
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EIGHT?? WTF.

I just can't get behind anything that manufactures this type of scenario. To think that a newborn baby could be condemned to spend ETERNITY suffering in any way just because some obscure ritual wasn't performed correctly in time...............it boggles my mind. And can you imagine the guilt an 8 year old would carry if god forbid they were ever in a situation where they could have performed said ritual and didn't????
The bold part above is a big clue, but you gotta talk this over with the Big Guy and the only one that once you believe in Him will set you straight.



These type of posts make me smile. If we worry about babies this much, why do you think God wouldn't care and take care of this?

What kind of a God do you honestly think He is?




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Everyone is born with original sin. It's because the woman from the rib messed up.
But Jesus made it go away by getting his dad to kill him. But kids still have to be baptised. Unless Jesus also covered the kids with his baptisms (some believe this version, otherwise hard to fathom they all end up in hell because of the rib woman).
for someone who is a believer in some god, but not exactly which, Your insight is very insightful.

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Good things come to those who wait...greater things come to those who get off their a$$ and do anything to make it happen.

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The bold part above is a big clue, but you gotta talk this over with the Big Guy and the only one that once you believe in Him will set you straight.



These type of posts make me smile. If we worry about babies this much, why do you think God wouldn't care and take care of this?

What kind of a God do you honestly think He is?
Not sure, the kind that kills babies and commits so much genocide for no reason? 12 Craziest, Most Awful Things God Did in the Old Testament | Alternet

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for someone who is a believer in some god, but not exactly which, Your insight is very insightful.

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I try to learn as quickly as I can. And sometimes get things mixed up. I hope the general thrust is hitting the right spot though

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Not sure, the kind that kills babies and commits so much genocide for no reason? 12 Craziest, Most Awful Things God Did in the Old Testament | Alternet
Be careful what you read and take it all with a grain of salt unless it comes straight from the Big Boss.

AFWIW, God's time ain't ours. When the old testament was written, God knew how everything would pan out and did what no one else could or can do to change the catastrophe Eve started. God saves souls not necessarily lives and that is the sad truth. He tried to make our human lives immortal, but Eve did what she did and now we know why human beans die ("beans, " used as reference to the BFG movie which I just finished watching with my DGD).

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The anglican church also does this(i was baptised as a baby) but its only the RC church that believes a baby isn't saved unless they are baptised. Its nonsense.


Of course it is! Even this lesser LRC knows this...pffft.


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I hope the ... thrust is hitting the right spot though
Pun intended I'm sure. LMAO

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Be careful what you read and take it all with a grain of salt unless it comes straight from the Big Boss.

AFWIW, God's time ain't ours. When the old testament was written, God knew how everything would pan out and did what no one else could or can do to change the catastrophe Eve started. God saves souls not necessarily lives and that is the sad truth. He tried to make our human lives immortal, but Eve did what she did and now we know why human beans die ("beans, " used as reference to the BFG movie which I just finished watching with my DGD).

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If god knew how everything would pan out, does it mean he also knew in advance that Eve would screw things up for everyone and did nothing about it beforehand? Why couldn't he at least tell her WHY she should not be eating the fruit and listening to the snake?
That's what I mean: next time let me design the universe and I'll make sure that everyone stays in paradise happily ever after and also omit making atheists from my plans. They are just too confusing and mildly irritating.
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The anglican church also does this(i was baptised as a baby) but its only the RC church that believes a baby isn't saved unless they are baptised. Its nonsense.
So is everyone born with original sin or not? Or do you get it after puberty? I am confused.
I am pretty sure my original sin was so sinful that even baptism wouldn't have helped.
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If god knew how everything would pan out, does it mean he also knew in advance that Eve would screw things up for everyone and did nothing about it beforehand? Why couldn't he at least tell her WHY she should not be eating the fruit and listening to the snake?
That's what I mean: next time let me design the universe and I'll make sure that everyone stays in paradise happily ever after and also omit making atheists from my plans. They are just too confusing and mildly irritating.
He did! Now the snake thing is just Lucifer's way of wanting to be godlike by trying to destroy what God created and loved dearly. He was somewhat successful, man dies, but man's soul is eternal and there is no one or nothing to tempt it once the flesh is gone (hence why Jesus in the flesh was the only man fit for the job of saving humanity).

You have to remember that we kinda, sorta but not really know how God created us, we know bits and pieces of what has been going on, but we have no idea how it all pans out in the end. God created us free and eternal. **** happened and our flesh dies, but the part that is God like in us is still eternal and at no ones reach but God's. In the end, all shall be revealed. When is the end; that's the million dollar question?


"That's what I mean: next time let me design the universe and I'll make sure that everyone stays in paradise happily ever after and also omit making atheists from my plans. They are just too confusing and mildly irritating."

... and hence why no mere mortal can fill His shoes...sigh. Athieists are part of His plan too silly.

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