it is 2009 it pains me to see narrow minded people still exist in this country.
Pains me to see how many people have no idea of what God wants from us. New age followers have lost their ability to think and use good judgement.
If a celebrity started praying to a sneaker or car tire, everyone else would be doing it too. Its downright crazy.
Jesus says nothing about same-sex behavior.
The Jewish prophets are silent about homosexuality.
Only six or seven of the Bible's one million verses refer to same-sex behavior in any way -- and none of these verses refer to homosexual orientation as it's understood today.
And here is what the Bible has to say about "normal" relationships...
DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21
If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately.
DEUTERONOMY 22:22
If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death.
MARK 10:1-12
Divorce is strictly forbidden in both Testaments, as is remarriage of anyone who has been divorced.
LEVITICUS 18:19
The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.
MARK 12:18-27
If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir.
DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12
If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.
Now, knowing that I'm a preacher...and that I've been married and divorced more than once...
Still something strikes me that I cannot take seriously a church with gay leadership, as the bible strictly prohibits this.
I tend to think a church that allows its leadership to be gay may condone anything and not actually interpret the bible correctly.
You have made some points but you left out the biggest one and the topic of this thread which is gay leadership in the church.
lets review the bible in context. homosexuality is an abomination to God........ and church leaders must teach the word of God.......
and live by example as they are held to a higher set of rules.
Therefore, a gay person, who is an abomination to God, cannot teach the word of God as they have no obediance to Gods word.
in the back of proverbs, there is a whole book to christian leaders/ teachers.
you don't know that ??????????
and you preach ?
ok back on topic... so many false leaders in churches these days, one has to be careful, they will sometimes teach people what people want to hear rather than the truth and the book of the bible
and with that.. I say
amen. http://www.geocities.com/johndavidmu...osexuality.htm
That church isn't right for me.
period. because I do know what the bible says.
Leadership of a church by a homosexual is a slap in Gods face.
The churches who have gay leadership,
its the false phropet in the flesh
GAsoccerman...it is not hate from me anyways
I have friends who are gay, they know that I do not agree with their "lifestyle" choices but love them anyways...
I personally also would not attend a church which had a homosexual leader, not because I have a hate on for gays but because I believe the Bible itself teaches that this lifestyle/behavior is against God's principles and therefore I cannot agree with having a leader who is gay.
I am a Christian, i look to the Bible and God for advice and direction. But you also have to realize a few things:
1) i wasnt aware anyone besides God is suppose to judge others.
2) The Bible was written in the culture of then,when homosexuality was a demon and there are human influences in the Bible beleive it or not, and todays culture is much different.
3) homosexuality is now known to be something you are born as, in your DNA, you cannot help being gay. The Bible doesnt condemn slavery, so would you then use slavery? Hopefully you say no. Would you hate a black person because they are black if the Bible told you to? hopefully you say no. get it? use judgement, this links back to #2, it was in the culture of the time
4) If you cannot accept a gay preacher, are you really the Christian you think you are? Christians are suppose to be loving and understanding, your not being either of those, your being judgmental and harsh, which isnt a good image for a Christian. I so many times see people claim to be Christians, yet dont act it at all/ are very narrow minded in their cognitives that it pains me to think they truely think God would smile upon the behaviors.
I am a Christian, i look to the Bible and God for advice and direction. But you also have to realize a few things:
1) i wasnt aware anyone besides God is suppose to judge others.
2) The Bible was written in the culture of then,when homosexuality was a demon and there are human influences in the Bible beleive it or not, and todays culture is much different.
3) homosexuality is now known to be something you are born as, in your DNA, you cannot help being gay. The Bible doesnt condemn slavery, so would you then use slavery? Hopefully you say no. Would you hate a black person because they are black if the Bible told you to? hopefully you say no. get it? use judgement, this links back to #2, it was in the culture of the time
4) If you cannot accept a gay preacher, are you really the Christian you think you are? Christians are suppose to be loving and understanding, your not being either of those, your being judgmental and harsh, which isnt a good image for a Christian. I so many times see people claim to be Christians, yet dont act it at all/ are very narrow minded in their cognitives that it pains me to think they truely think God would smile upon the behaviors.
and i mean all this in the nicest way possible.
You need to look up FALSE TEACHERS then.
anyway... we have found a wonderful church that teaches the word, and in no way twists things... and are very happy with it.
anyway... we have found a wonderful church that teaches the word, and in no way twists things... and are very happy with it.
just curious, which one?
i took three years of biblical hebrew because i was curious how the word was twisted. some interesting turns in genesis alone. my next goal is to learn greek. there's a lot of debate about what exactly jesus was referring to when he said "you are the rock of my church," which of course is the foundation for the catholic church naming Peter as the first Pope. and anyway, everyone knows the bible has been tweaked with every profitable hand that came to power. how anyone can take it at face value is really beyond me.
anyway, if you're really interested in learning about the twists and turns you might consider learning biblical hebrew and koine greek. its one thing to have someone preach it at you, quite another to learn it for yourself.
Re: new church= homosexual preacher/ pastor 
