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Old 06-22-2009, 01:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've been invited to a new church that has a lesbian pastor.
It somehow goes against what I believe, in that you cannot be gay and live the lifestyle of a gay person and be a christian, so I can't go to that church.

what are your feelings about gays in the church ministiry? It seems to me they are making up their own religion to think its ok to live as a homosexual or lesbian and teach Gods word.. when the bible strictly prohibits it.

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Old 06-22-2009, 02:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think the more liberal churches are the ones who embrace having gay and lesbians in the leadership roles. These are also often the churches who don't interpret the bible literally; they leave things more open-ended and let the congregation make up their own minds about things.

I think it's great that more churches have gay and lesbian ministers - they are people too and they should not be barred from a career they feel strongly about.
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yes I am thinking they are teaching people open ended and things they want to hear and why I don't think I should go.

It's been troubling me because I was asked by someone I really like but I'm afraid I can't get involved in anything like that, because I actually do know what the bible says and it even warns of churches like this and to avoid them and the false phropets in them.

I'm sad I found this person goes to this church....

I just can't go with her I guess.

I don't think its so great... they are not real christians, they are cultural christians, or into fads, not christianity.
It's actually kind of scary to me.

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Old 07-01-2009, 10:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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So which Bible do you use? There are hundreds of Versions.

Many of they have edited out certain chapters.

I am fine with your choice of not attending their church, that is your choice.

But why are you scared that these people have some faith? Do you steer away from Buhdist? Hindu's? Muslims? Mormons? Jews? Catholics? Deists?

maybe they are inviting you to open your eyes and let you see we live in a diverse society.

America was founded on religious freedoms, that we can accept and tolerate people and they may practice their own personal religion in America and not be viewed as an outcast.

Many early settlers came to America for Religious freedoms. While we are mainly a "christian" country, we are a country that accepts all and allows anyone to practice their religion within the laws of the land.

I personally would go, see what it was like, see how others live and worship. I would respect their religion as I hope they would respect my beliefs.
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God gave us love...undefined...God gave us freedom to choose so therefore...

Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. -- Matthew 19:6

You have a right to choose but not judge...and if I'm not mistaken there is a quote in the Bible that covers that judgement thing, damned if I can remember what it is tho...

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I'm just not going to go.
It's not my kind of church when they allow homosexuality in the church leaders.

Kinda freaked me out but there are many churches that teach false info, so it shouldn't surprise me really. I just won't go.
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God gave us love...undefined...God gave us freedom to choose so therefore...

Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. -- Matthew 19:6

You have a right to choose but not judge...and if I'm not mistaken there is a quote in the Bible that covers that judgement thing, damned if I can remember what it is tho...

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We use judgement all the time, to choose between right and wrong. Thats why we have a brain, and free will...to choose and make choices
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Using judgement and judging someone are polar opposites
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I do not consider myself a Christian or any other specific religion, but I have a lot of faith. The God I have seen revealed is so kind and loving that I know this God embraces all of us, every last one of us. This God would not deny someone love based on something as harmless as their sexual orientation.

I also believe that Hell is what we create in our own lives by mistreating one another; anyone want to discuss that? ;0
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Kinda freaked me out but there are many churches that teach false info, so it shouldn't surprise me really. I just won't go.
How do you know they are teaching false info? you won't be there to hear it.

How do you know your church teachings are correct and not one of the false ones?

How do you really know? Unless you examined all of them and sat at every sermon and knew the absoulute truth (which no one knows)

Basically you are homophobic simple as that.
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Using judgement and judging someone are polar opposites
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The way I see it is that God's genetics and cell mechanics makes people whatever sexual orientation they are so why wouldn't HE want them in the pulpit?

The idea that people choose to be gay is just ignorant.

Basic sexuality tendency is a SPOT on a continuum of genetic predisposition, not a choice.

So, if a person had Down syndrome, but could preach, you'd not want them in the pulpit either?

As is basic sexuality, Down syndrome is a spot on the continuum of genetic predisposition, not a choice.
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so what then? You believe you should join any church and believe whatever they tell you ?

Not going to happen here but your welcome to join any church you like and let them lead you.
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The way I see it is that God's genetics and cell mechanics makes people whatever sexual orientation they are so why wouldn't HE want them in the pulpit?

The idea that people choose to be gay is just ignorant.

Basic sexuality tendency is a SPOT on a continuum of genetic predisposition, not a choice.

So, if a person had Down syndrome, but could preach, you'd not want them in the pulpit either?

As is basic sexuality, Down syndrome is a spot on the continuum of genetic predisposition, not a choice.
no gay leaders for me, thanks... but good to know
there are people to fill up their churches.
Won't be me... others are welcome to open their souls and heart to any church or leaders they wish. I have standards
I wish to uphold in regard to who I allow to influence me.
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I have standards
I'm not so sure I would call what you say are "standards"

I could easily say I hate going to churches with White people becuase there is no way they can speak the truth, and call it "standards"

Instead it's ignorance.

You posted your main point we disagree with it, which is fine. as we said, you don't have to go to their church, but you don't have to post here why Gays should not be able to practice a specific religion, simpy because they are gay.

Ignorance, hate, standars, however you wish to describe it, it reaches the same conclusion.
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