Self-Help Marriage & Relationship ProgramsFrom Mort Fertel's "Marriage Fitness" to "The Us Factor," this section is for talking about the various programs available for do-it-yourself relationship help and marriage advice.
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I bought Dr. Ellen's tapes for both my husband and myself. I thought they offered really great advice and would recommend for anyone to listen.
Unfortunately my husband wasn't open to them and didn't listen to all of them. If he did I believe it would help us. Maybe it was the timing...ask your spouse first rather than just give them to him (especially a strong-willed male) But they DID help me to understand how men think and feel...gave me a whole new perspective.
I also called Dr. Ellen and talked with her. She was very good, and although I didn't heed her advice of how to deal with my cheating husband, she was still very helpful.
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Originally Posted by Chris H.
I'm pretty sure Dr. Ellen (LightYourFire) offers some free advice through email. At least she told me she did a few months ago... maybe I can get her to post here...
I emailed for some simple advice (should I share the program with my husband) and got an email response saying I could purchase counseling. I purchased the cd's (both sets) and can't even get them to tell me if it would be wise to give my husband (separated/living in diff cities) the series since he is not interested in restoring the marriage. So I just listened to the cd's and made my own judgement. She talks (in the mens' section) WAY too much about how to please the wife or gf - and since mine has a gf I don't really want to help her get the best of him.
Re: Mort Fertel's Marriage Fitness Program- Work??
Dear K'Lynn,
I do give advice by email if the situation is simple. In a case where a husband has a girlfriend and you are living in different cities, the situation is much too complicated to be dealt with in an email. When I feel that I can't give sound advice without asking more questions and probing deeper, then I let them know that I am available for a phone consultation. I have been doing this a long time and I can usually get to the bottom line in a half hour but always leave an hour open in case I need it.
Your husband has it in his head that he would be better off with this other woman, but as they spend more and more time together and you get stronger and more independent, he will regret what he is doing. The universe and God do not put an importance on time. We are the ones who want things to happen now without learning and growing. For now, use the information on friends, family, co-workers and even total strangers. I want you to use it on your husband when you know in your heart it is absolutely the right time. Your judgment was 100% correct. At this point he is not ready to listen to anything that will restore the marriage. It is you that has to come from a deep place of love and confidence and then your whole life will change. You are on a journey and you will have to see where it takes you.
I want you to know that 95% of affairs do not work out. I think you have been competing with a fantasy for a while now. When he confides in this other woman, there are no bills to pay and no daily responsibilities. There is only a sympathetic ear, listening to his problems and then validating his feelings. He has only been with her a short time and each of them is seeing the other's best behavior. An affair is only fun when it provides an escape. When there is no longer anything to escape to and they are together 24/7 for a long time, that's when he'll realize what a mistake he's making. Right now you need to take a deep breath, relax and keep concentrating on buying yourself time. The more time that goes by without him filing for a divorce, the angrier this other woman will become. Then he will see her true self. No woman wants to date a married man. She only dates him with the promise of him separating from his wife and then getting a divorce. The longer he postpones doing that, the more she will nag him. He certainly doesn't want to be with someone who will continue to question and pressure him.
Your story is not over by a long shot, but there is just no way to speed up time. When I was diagnosed with breast cancer and told that I only had a 20% chance of living in 1991, there was nothing I could do to change the diagnosis and no crystal ball on how much time I really had. I just did everything I could, like changing my diet, exercise, chemotherapy and radiation and then it was in God's hands. I hate to equate your husband to God, but it's up to him whether he changes his mind or not. All you have control over is what you do and don't do.
So no matter how you feel right now and I know it's the fear of losing your husband, just keep putting one foot in front of the other. Listening to the program is a giant first step. Also I believe in the power of prayer so if you haven't already done so, sign up on my site and thousands of people will be praying that your husband has a change of heart.
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Thank you so much for that heartfelt reply, I apologize for being misunderstanding the situation of the email. Your words have given me encouragement and hope, and I have begun to listen to the audios again - for a refresher - and apply what I am learning with my children and friends. The affair supposedly ended when they were caught - she is also married and afraid of getting found out. But I believe they are still talking (they live in separate states) and texting. She is separated, but I don't know if she really wants a divorce. ? Who knows...I am just working on me and seeing where that takes me for now.
Thank you again for your kindness and encouragement!
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I was just wondering if there's anyone out there who has tried either Mort Fertel or Dr. Ellen's programs, but was not actually married. My fiance said he needed "space" and walked out suddenly on a long-term (more than 8 years) relationship. I am trying to work on myself, but I really love him and want to us to give it another go.. but I don't know which programs would be appropriate in my situation..
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Was in a long-term relationship for 8yrs, and engaged. He had been through a stressful period at work (same for me); anyway, he suddenly decided that he needed "space". I moved out. He has been in touch since then, but only when he wants attention. I think he still feels something for me, but am not sure.. I am trying to work on myself, but I can't help thinking that I've lost the chance of a wonderful relationship... don't know what to do..
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Dr. Ellen,
I looked up your site and found the light your own fire series. I really want my husband to use that, but don't feel like it is something I can tell him about without sounding condescending. Do you have any advice for me? I feel that our problems will nearly solve themselves when he is feeling better about himself.