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Re: What Porn did to a Marriage - Interesting Read...
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Originally Posted by CallaLily
He doesn't come across as angry to me really, but more arrogant, and like a holier than thou type. I have found most people who are secure, do not come across like that. Its not so much what he says and what he knows, as it is how he says it.
A few posts ago, he said he was angry. I am curious why? He also tends to paint with a broad brush in essence by saying men are sex starved and women are causing that. Ahem, I in no way reflect that.
Re: What Porn did to a Marriage - Interesting Read...
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Originally Posted by Brennan
A few posts ago, he said he was angry. I am curious why? He also tends to paint with a broad brush in essence by saying men are sex starved and women are causing that. Ahem, I in no way reflect that.
He's angry in a general way on behalf of all men because they have had to hold back their...can't remember what he called it...Beast? Buzz? for too long and need to take back what is theirs!!!
Re: What Porn did to a Marriage - Interesting Read...
The first thing that came to mind was misogynist. However, because he clearly gets lots of sex from his wife who is apparently awesome and because he works in the porn industry and loves porn stars, then I guess he isn't.
Re: What Porn did to a Marriage - Interesting Read...
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Originally Posted by Trenton
He's angry in a general way on behalf of all men because they have had to hold back their...can't remember what he called it...Beast? Buzz? for too long and need to take back what is theirs!!!
If the "buzz" is so important, then why get married in the first place? I am asking sincerely. You can have children outside of wedlock. That way you procreate and can nail anything that moves. It's almost like men marry and then moan that they gave up a part of themselves and blame women for it. So don't do it! Simple.
Re: What Porn did to a Marriage - Interesting Read...
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Originally Posted by Jamison
The first thing that came to mind was misogynist. However, because he clearly gets lots of sex from his wife who is apparently awesome and because he works in the porn industry and loves porn stars, then I guess he isn't.
There are alot of misogynist men in the porn industry. Their hatred of women and their views on sex, reflect in the way they treat women on and off camera.
Re: What Porn did to a Marriage - Interesting Read...
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Originally Posted by Brennan
If the "buzz" is so important, then why get married in the first place? I am asking sincerely. You can have children outside of wedlock. That way you procreate and can nail anything that moves. It's almost like men marry and then moan that they gave up a part of themselves and blame women for it. So don't do it! Simple.
They want their cake and want to eat it too (who doesn't really). Then when the cake turns stale they question why they liked the cake so much...then they complain about how things are so vanilla.
Blah. Blah. Blah.
The more I read from men, when they are being honest, the less I like them. Maybe that's why men are dishonest?
Re: What Porn did to a Marriage - Interesting Read...
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Originally Posted by Jamison
The first thing that came to mind was misogynist. However, because he clearly gets lots of sex from his wife who is apparently awesome and because he works in the porn industry and loves porn stars, then I guess he isn't.
"Misogynist" implies I hate women. I don't. I LOVE women. I don't like the way the male-female dynamic has evolved, and I fault the culture for advancing female sexual values as the only legitimate ones, forcing male sexual values off the table. You wanna see me happy? Treat female and male sexual values as equals.
So how do you get "misogynist" out of "I want equality!"?
Re: What Porn did to a Marriage - Interesting Read...
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Originally Posted by Brennan
If the "buzz" is so important, then why get married in the first place? I am asking sincerely. You can have children outside of wedlock. That way you procreate and can nail anything that moves. It's almost like men marry and then moan that they gave up a part of themselves and blame women for it. So don't do it! Simple.
When we get married it is with the belief that our wives will happily help us handle our Buzz, because that's what we think they agreed to when they got married. We trade the possibility of sex with many mates for the security of sex with one mate, but with the understanding that our commitment will be honored with some kind of sex.
Then, for many (if not most) men, after the wedding or a few years on, the rules change without them being notified. Suddenly the wife you love and who you depended upon to keep the Buzz quiet decides that there's no such thing as a Buzz in the first place, and you're just saying that . . . because you're a man (well, duh) and why should I, any way, because ________________?
At that point, men realize that what they thought they agreed to isn't what the agreement is about at all, but it's too late to try to renegotiate. They're bound. They still love their wives, but instead of sex being a liberating, sharing experience that makes them happy, it becomes an endless series of hoops to jump through with no hope of fulfillment. If they complain, they lose. If they try to do something about it, they lose. If they cheat, they lose. And if they try to be honest with their wives about their needs, well, usually they get brutally judged and then lose.
I never said men didn't have emotional needs to bond and love and feel loved. It's just that for us, sex is an integral part of that process, while for many women it seems optional. Or worse. For men, sex is always part of the equation. You can't take it off the table. The buzz never stops. And while you'd really, really prefer that your wife understood you well enough to handle it maturely, instead she gets judgmental and calls your mental health, your morals, and your entire character into question.
After that, nothing left to do but shut up, watch porn, and dream about cheating. As a man, your needs are secondary to hers in the relationship. And that's a cause for despair and pain.
Re: What Porn did to a Marriage - Interesting Read...
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Originally Posted by AgentD
There are alot of misogynist men in the porn industry. Their hatred of women and their views on sex, reflect in the way they treat women on and off camera.
And there are a lot of misandronists . . . EVERYWHERE. It's okay to bash guys all day long, and nobody can complain, right?