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Old 12-07-2011, 01:53 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Well, then let me ask you this...IS EVERYBODY CHEATING NOW??!
LOL. Wrong thread, Dark
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I'm so confused!!!
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I worship God, not body parts. I appreciate body parts but I am not building a shrine or singing hymns to them.
All in context , all in context. The bedroom is the shrine & a good hymn might be "Addicted" by Saving Abel.

My husband hates that song but I love it. Better than singing something telling me what a wretch I am. No, I am just kidding-Amazing Grace is a beautiful song. I should worship God more, but yeah, I like pleasing the husband more than praying, It used to be the other way around, been there, done that, can't say it did our marraige any favors. Alot more fun now.
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:21 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Yes men are more obsessed. Why does porn begin and end with it if they are not.
Not sure I've ever seen the end of a porno. Do they have credits like normal movies?
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I don't even like cunninglingus or whatever it's called.

Ew, no thanks. I mean, if he wants to, he can, but I'd much rather him going nuts over other area of my body.
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Not sure I've ever seen the end of a porno. Do they have credits like normal movies?
Actually Statler and Waldorf appear and quip with some pithy comment.
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Never seen a vagina statue. Seen hundreds of penis ones though. Face it, YOU worship that thing and expect US to do the same.
Ever seen any Georgia O'Keefe paintings?
Those aren't just flowers.
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Actually Statler and Waldorf appear and quip with some pithy comment.
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Yes but that is one artist just like the Vagina Monologues is one show. It is hardly the same as thousands of years of sculptures "erected" to the penis.
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I don't even like cunninglingus or whatever it's called.

Ew, no thanks. I mean, if he wants to, he can, but I'd much rather him going nuts over other area of my body.
You don't like it?

Back to the title of the thread...

"I don't understand (some) women in this regard"
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I'm so confused!!!
Dark and I were just enjoying the full moon at TAM


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I don't even like cunninglingus or whatever it's called.

Ew, no thanks. I mean, if he wants to, he can, but I'd much rather him going nuts over other area of my body.
You just proved my original point in this thread (ya know, before the conversation turned to penis statues, bejazzled vaginas and worshippable genitalia)

Not everyone likes the same things!!! Some people enjoy oral, some don't. Some want to do it, others aren't that into it. I personally LOVE it immensely, as Dark posted, not all women do. Just as not all men are into getting or giving oral. We are all different with different wants and needs.
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What happened to this thread - it's gone in a direction that no thread on bj has gone before. Actually, more interesting. I didn't know about the meaning of the penis size on Greek statutes. I thought it was an error in perspective. But that does not make sense since the proportions and details are otherwise exquisite. Thanks TRBE.

Jelly my post was partly tongue-in-cheek. In reality, the bj obsession is complex but it is largely the intense pleasure and the need to find a willing woman or man to perform a difficult task that is considered distasteful for many women and does not benifits them. It requires effort and time to master, has many unpleasent aspects, requires the giver to follow a script that has nothing to do with who they are and how they feel, for which they derive no sexual satisfaction.

After all of that, instead of appreciation, Some have their efforts, greated with dissappontment, frustration and even anger. Moreover, there are men who actually threaten to cheat or leave the relationship. These men must compartmentalize the bj, otherwise how can they act unloving and coersive and expect their partner to transmitt love through the mouth to their penis. Under those circumstances they may get one but it is is a service and makes the woman feel used. That is a very bad dynamic.
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You just proved my original point in this thread (ya know, before the conversation turned to penis statues, bejazzled vaginas and worshippable genitalia)

Not everyone likes the same things!!! Some people enjoy oral, some don't. Some want to do it, others aren't that into it. I personally LOVE it immensely, as Dark posted, not all women do. Just as not all men are into getting or giving oral. We are all different with different wants and needs.
I'm more likely to believe that she's never had someone do it correctly...
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To my mind, there is no mystery to the reason bj's stop or decrease over time, doing a bj depletes the reserves in a woman's love bank, if she get nothing that is of value to her in return. If there are other unresolved relationship issues,, the accumulated debt is too large.

I think men feeling that they have to jump through hoops to get a bj and that depletes their reserves too. Men who are honest and realistic are careful about preserving the balance of the exchange of satisfactions. They make sure that sex is mutual and they are not the only ones satisfied. There is no reason why an oral sex session cannot involve giving oral sex to the woman and then having her give a bj. If she does not enjoy oral sex than do what she likes.

I don't understand why women are expected to do a bj when they are not arroused. Why is that the way they are done? Tradition? Porn? Porn is not realistic, the actresses are paid to act as if they are arroused by the sight of a mans errect penis. For most women, that is not the case.

Most of the time that's how my H and I have oral sex. Sometimes I do it cold when I want him to just relax and enjoy. I know sex involves a man adjusting to the pace of the woman and that it takes effort and control on his part. I appreciate that my husband has had to alter what would be most pleasurable for him, vaginal sex for 5 mins to orgasm. I know that it is difficult to master. He does that for me out of love and it motivates me to give him a chance to relax and enjoy.

I hope this helps, and I would enjoy comments. Does this seem reasonable and doable to improve the bj situation?
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:46 PM   #90 (permalink)
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I'm more likely to believe that she's never had someone do it correctly...
Not true. I've had people do it correctly.

I just don't like it. Why do you care what I don't like in bed? I love tons of other things so this isn't an issue for us. I asked him if he likes to do it and he said, "Not really". Perfect match
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