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post #91 of 287 (permalink) Old 02-17-2017, 05:34 PM
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Reconciling with fiancée

I didn't read SI and I won't. I am no martyr. I have no idea why this thread keeps going like the energizer bunny. Well except fir the kid which is unfortunate but isn't your problem and will likely be either rubar by 18 or completely clear of mom.

You are delusional if you believe you can save this boy or have a "real" wife. I totally understand your delusion - you only recently had your world turned upside down - but you are delusional none the less.

My BIL adopted a kid and provided an amazing christian, well off, loving life. He's early 20's now, on his own after getting kicked out of every possible situation, got a girl pregnant, and is on his latest "last chance". He's a really nice, genuine kid, but he probably has fetal alcohol syndrome and a low IQ. Which, statistically, means prison in the long run (lack of full frontal lobe development during pregnancy resulting in poor executive function - the ability to plan or see consequences).

Maybe the kid isn't completely fked up - IDK. All I know is you are hanging onto a dead relationship based on an emotional response to the kid and the weeping of a women whose past has caught up with her.

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Well the last 5 posts or so you got a real good idea of what I was talking about how people were giving her the once over. Look if you think a person who's father abuses her and who is repeatedly rapped from the age of 14 and then groomed to be a prostitute by her piece of **** boyfriend is a irredeemable ***** then by all means leave her alone. She needs a much better person then that.

Interesting that most of the post from these people have no more then 3 posts.

Notice how the same posters basically feel the same way about the kid too. To them they are both irredeemable trash. I think would rather know your ex.

By the way I have no problem with people thinking she is a risk. She is a risk. She is still a human being not garbage.

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Well the last 5 posts or so you got a real good idea of what I was talking about how people were giving her the once over. Look if you think a person who's father abuses her and who is repeatedly rapped from the age of 14 and then groomed to be a prostitute by her piece of **** boyfriend is a irredeemable ***** then by all means leave her alone. She needs a much better person then that.

Interesting that most of the post from these people have no more then 3 posts.

Notice how the same posters basically feel the same way about the kid too. To them they are both irredeemable trash. I think would rather know your ex.

By the way I have no problem with people thinking she is a risk. She is a risk. She is still a human being not garbage.
I for one frequent LS but not this site.

Hudson's ex said she was raped. She lied about other things what makes you think that is not a lie as well? What makes you think what she said about her family life was true? She seems to always have a cover up lie at hand, ready to use. At the end of the day she made her choices and she has to live with them. Least she can do is own up to them.

She was linked to this thread. Seeing the opinions may do her some good and open her eyes. Or get some communication going between the two of them.
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Notice you don't say one thing about the kid's welfare.

You have no idea she is lying. You know just as much as I do. I told OP to do research, get a poly and be very careful if he wants to continue a relationship for him and the kids sake. You told him to throw her and the kid away like garbage. I stand by my saying I would rather know her then you. Go back to LS, you belong there.

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So 5 is the magic number for sex partners before you move into fallen woman territory? I had 19 girls so I must be a male tramp.

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Notice you don't say one thing about the kid's welfare.

You have no idea she is lying. You know just as much as I do. I told OP to do research, get a poly and be very careful if he wants to continue a relationship for him and the kids sake. You told him to throw her and the kid away like garbage. I stand by my saying I would rather know her then you. Go back to LS, you belong there.
The kid is a lost cause. He is either a gang bang baby or rape baby. He was born to a druggie, teenage mother. His father:

A) Doesn't know he exists because his mother slept around too much and has no idea who he is

B) Knows he exists but doesn't want any part of his life because of the way he was conceived

C) Is actually the ex who will continue to go in and out of the child's life.

He watches his mother manipulate and abuse situations. He will likely be a compulsive liar with no boundaries, just like mommy. The only father-figure he has in his life is a transplanted southern hick with extreme values and a doormat tendency.

Kid is screwed. Nothing OP can do is going to change that.
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And that is why I don't read or post on LS.
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And that is why I don't read or post on LS.
They just deleted any references to this thread or "hateful commentary" too...

The fact of the matter is that his was-to-be wife didn't enjoy having sex with him and has repeatedly lied about her past. She could settle the matter over who the father is by just taking a simple DNA-test. The man who's now, legally, the father has a, from what i gather, track record of drug addiction, risky sexual (no condoms or birth control) and criminal behaviour. He even tried to ram this woman with his car! Why won't she do the test to eventually get rid of this "dad" from the son's and her own (and the OP's) life? How could she even be okay with being near him when she can settle the matter once and for all? It's very weird.

It's up to the OP to decide for himself but I can imagine it's hard to trust her.
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They just deleted any references to this thread or "hateful commentary" too...

The fact of the matter is that his was-to-be wife didn't enjoy having sex with him and has repeatedly lied about her past. She could settle the matter over who the father is by just taking a simple DNA-test. The man who's now, legally, the father has a, from what i gather, track record of drug addiction, risky sexual (no condoms or birth control) and criminal behaviour. He even tried to ram this woman with his car! Why won't she do the test to eventually get rid of this "dad" from the son's and her own (and the OP's) life? How could she even be okay with being near him when she can settle the matter once and for all? It's very weird.

It's up to the OP to decide for himself but I can imagine it's hard to trust her.
I find it "shocking" just "SHOCKING" that someone who was repeatedly rapped and prostituted in her teen years didn't love to have sex!! /s

I doubt she would love to have sex with anyone. Her feelings about sex are all screwed up, she even says it in her post. Why are they screwed up because her father was a rapist and she was groomed by a boyfriend who has a "track record of drug addiction, risky sexual (no condoms or birth control) and criminal behavior. He even tried to ram this woman with his car!" Who repeatedly raped her and when he got tired of her pimped her to his friends for drugs.

Meanwhile while this is all going on she is going through puberty and discovering sex, her body still responds to stimulus but it is a perverted form of what sex it. This is basically the only kind of sex she knows up until this point. No wonder she has all kinds of issues with it. I really don't think it has anything to do with OP's prowess, like you and some of the other misguided posters at LS who don't know the first thing about human sexuality.

Do you understand it is a known fact that woman can experience arousal during rape. Do you think they want to that, does that make them *****s (ho's) because the do? Or do you think maybe it is the body's response to stimulus like say an iris responds to light. Now how do you think that screws with the mind of a 15 year old girl who is just learning about sex, her body, and her first experience was with a guy who was repeatedly raping her? This being the only guy to pay attention to her.

You can call her a *****, I think she is incredibly brave for getting away from the only thing she ever known her whole social circle because she had a child and loved him. This gives me hope for her.

No doubt and it should be said if he continues with this woman sex will be a complicated part of their relationship. Now he knows that she was basically dealing with lots of crap when they have sex because of her past. It really a shame he had to fine out about that so bluntly from a poster on a message board. That S is hard. Still doesn't mean he isn't good in bed, or that she only likes kinky sex as you are trying to imply. It means that when most people with healthy backgrounds develop a healthy relationship with their sexuality, in her case she was being exploited.

Maybe the DNA test isn't a priority because she genuinely knows he is the father and she knows it's a waste of time. OP thinks there may be a question, but may she knows because of who she had sex with during that time. Or maybe she is scared. Or maybe she doesn't have hope that anything good will come out of it either way and the idea brings back too much pain. Maybe she doesn't want to find out that she has no idea who the father of her kid is at all because all she will find out is it's not this guy. That my just reinforce her bad feelings about her self. No doubt there are a lot of issues with this woman and this stuff.

I have not given this women a pass but I have sympathy for her because this all started when she was 14 and ended when she was 18. Most people at that age are graduating from Pokemon to Justin Bieber, she was repeatedly being raped, her mother died and she was being pimped out and filmed by a bunch of drug addicts. Give the woman just a little bit of sympathy. She is not a 30 year old prostitute sleeping her way through collage. If you believer he story which I do then she was a product of a sexually abusive family environment. She had the fortitude to get out of it. And she has repeatedly shown she will put her son's best interests over her own. She is not as protective of herself and makes some very poor decisions in that respect such as living next door to this guy.

My advice to him was learn about childhood sexual abuse and the kind of damage it does. How it affects decision making, how you can recover from it. What are your prospects of having a healthy relationship with someone like this. Ask to go with her to her therapist with her so she can tell her story and a professional psychologist can corroborate some of it. By then he should have studied this kind of stuff and have some idea how works. Then have her take a poly to make sure she is telling the truth now. She has lied in the past and that is a big deal, though I think some of the reactions on here at least show her motive. Of course someone who has done what she did and is ashamed of it doesn't want to volunteer it. She hasn't cheated on him though. Presumably this is the only thing she has lied about. Not if it's not then maybe she is just way too far gone.

After all that if he thinks like me that she was an abused teenager and not a promiscuous ho as you guys do, then go very slow if he wants.

He loves the kid and he still has feelings for her. This is his best hope to have permanent access to the kid. Right now if anything happened the kid is lost. All of this would be on the contention that the would get some sort of parental rights to the kid, that would be a priority of both of them. He asked if there was anyway to come back from this. So I gave him the only way I would consider if I was in the incredibly hard position he is in.

It's a hell of a risk yes, but that's life. Life is hard, not everyone gets the perfect story, you make the best of it.

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Well the last 5 posts or so you got a real good idea of what I was talking about how people were giving her the once over. Look if you think a person who's father abuses her and who is repeatedly rapped from the age of 14 and then groomed to be a prostitute by her piece of **** boyfriend is a irredeemable ***** then by all means leave her alone. She needs a much better person then that.

Interesting that most of the post from these people have no more then 3 posts.

Notice how the same posters basically feel the same way about the kid too. To them they are both irredeemable trash. I think would rather know your ex.

By the way I have no problem with people thinking she is a risk. She is a risk. She is still a human being not garbage.
I thought she said that her father had abused her mum not her?
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I thought she said that her father had abused her mum not her?
Raping your mom in front of you is abuse wouldn't you say?
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If the topic on the other site is the EX of hudson (OP) - then he needs to educate himself. I am still in disagreement of WHAT he is doing. I understand the shock, but his attitude on how to deal with this is cruel.

So Hudson, read this: https://www.rainn.org/articles/adult...d-sexual-abuse

Then read this: https://www.rainn.org/articles/how-respond-survivor

It's about adult survivors of child sexual abuse. It's a quick read and if you want to learn more - there is more info on that site.

I too, as a male boy was sexually molested. I didn't tell anyone about it - EVER... until I told my wife. Then I started telling some others years later and I'm saying it here. It's not something that likes to be shared. But hey, on this website - you don't know me and nobody knows who you are.

Also, that is *HER SON*! NOT YOUR SON! You either get your own act together, be a man and deal with your own insecurities - and try to do something with this relationships. GO to counseling with this woman.
OR extract yourself from HER life & *HER* SON'S. Tell her to remove YOU info from HER SON'S school. Delete her contact info, move away, don't call her, don't see them. Don't SEE HIM. At the most, see him one more time and have the balls to tell him that YOU are the problem and cannot see him or his mother anymore. Maybe pre-pay a therapist to see him for a year.

My wife cheated on me last year, the two months worth of time that she was kicked out and *OUR* two-year-old son didn't see her. Hurt him, he still has attachment issues with mom, even thou we've been back together for 8 months and doing very well.

There is NO MIDDLE ground. *HER* son is part of the package. You don't get one without the other. Personally, I don't think you're ready to be a father anyway.

Option A : You write a letter (or text) to your ex-F that you want to talk for a few hours - just the two of you, so she has someone babysit. You apologize for being childish and discuss if it's possible for both of you to work your mess out. And that THERAPY is a requirement. You go from there - ONLY if you want the package.

Option B : You text her that you will no longer bother her or her son. Admit that you cannot deal with her past. Refer to above options, as telling him "goodbye - don't blame your mother" is the best thing you can do for that boy.

Option C : There is no other options.

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Who is laura8, who just joined to post to this specific thread about the other site? And statements she has made are taken out of context. Maybe a friend that is an enemy to the relationship?

hudson (the OP) He talks about his conflicted feelings but since November when the video was shown to him, he has NEVER sat down and talked to this woman about this situation, who is supposed to be the love of his life. He just took the word of a junkie ex-BF from about 10 years ago, saw a few minutes of video - or who knows, maybe the whole thing and that was that.

How are you supposed to handle marriage IF YOU CANNOT EVEN TALK?! Communication is the #1 cause of divorce.

Looking at the recent posts on LS that Laura8 pointed out and a quick re-review of the first thread and reading the new thread.... I am 99.99% certain that the woman on the other site *IS* hudson's ex-F. Their stories match (what are the odds?): the timing, sex-abuse, video, her child, the neighbor and that hudson (her ex-f) is only seeing the kid, has blocked him from leaving - trying to talk to him.
The neighbor situation is properly explained by another poster there. "He remembers her, but he wants to forget HER - since she was underaged / he's married with a few kids now". Hell, the wife and I just moved and it turned out to be very close to where her AF used to live. I am aware of it, I don't give a damn because its just a building - and I'm only thinking about it now because of the context with hudson's ex-F.

hudson is not willing to TALK to his ex-F, that he is conflicted with - yet, is dating other women. Asking for advice, but won't go to the other site to confirm her story. (afraid?) There are two choices that I already pointed out: "Get out of limbo and get HER out of limbo." Leave or Stay.

Because of this and what Laura8 said, I'm going to post parts of what the ex-F on LS has said. I think people here are not seeing the full context. This is a small part of only what ex-F said over a period of 2 months:

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The guy that I had sex with that lives near me, I know I should have told my fiance about that. I couldn't do it, and it always made me nervous. I don't think he ever recognized me, honestly, and he appears to be married with kids. He was 5-6 years older. I felt like telling my fiance about that would open the floodgates. He said he didn't want to know about my sexual past, so I didn't want to tell him. I wasn't having group sex every day... I know who my sons biological dad is
If she was 14 and he was 20 - that could still get him put in jail for statutory rape. So he avoids her. She avoids him. People can do that.

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Very "vanilla" is the term I've heard. Missionary almost all the time. I loved it, honestly. I know a lot of people wouldn't but I did. I wouldn't have changed it for the world. It was the complete opposite of what I was use to and I never wanted it to change. I still don't.
A 19 yr old woman I dated for 6 months when I was in my early 30s, she was into some kinky BDSM stuff - some beyond my tastes back then. She was into things I wasn't and still not. But also, I desired more intimacy that she couldn't do. I still know her today, she married with a kid today. I talked about sex life-styles not too long ago and she said "she isn't into much of that she used to do. Some guys abused her before and after me. She is quite happy to have plain vanilla sex with her husband. No oral for either of them, he's not into giving or receiving. I can vouch that she was like that back then, which was an incompatibly issue for me. I like to give. But point is, she is quite happy with being in love with her husband's sexual style as it matches hers.

The ex-F woman who posted this... was in love with having sex with someone who didn't view her as a THING to put their penis into. That is what LOVE is about, right?

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The only way I've been able to orgasm from sex was by doing things that I don't want to do ever again.

I still have to remind myself that sex isn't an obligation and it should be enjoyed. I have to remind myself not to feel gross when my ex-fiance would touch me and to stay present during sex. It took a long time and a lot of work with my therapist to stop the dissociation feelings. I don't want to go back there. It instantly pulls me back to those moments.

It didn't really bother my fiance that much. When we first started having sex it did a bit but he got over it. It was still enjoyable and felt good, the orgasm wasn't a must. I suppose I made sex more for him. All I cared about was that is was good for him, I just liked being close to him. He was willing to try other things, like oral, even though it was uncomfortable for him. At the end of the day, it wasn't worth doing something that he was uncomfortable with - and him being uncomfortable made me uncomfortable. I just wanted to be close to him, I didn't care about the rest of it.
This part of a post also doesn't match what laura had said.
She wants to be CLOSE to this man who she is in love with. That she had to open herself up to her fiancee, and not feel GROSS about herself - that his touch was from a caring person.
She posted this text long before the thread here ever started.

As I posted above to the RAINN website: after severe sexual abuse - normal loving sex is a challenge. It's something she can get some help by going to a sex therapist, hopefully. I myself have been with at least two women who couldn't have orgasms. They enjoyed the sex, even rather kinky stuff... and one was sexual and sensual. But they couldn't hit the big O.

The ex-F woman has issues, she can get help and some do learn to "let go". She isn't happy about it and its a wiring issue in her head - that *IF* she and her ex-f were to go to therapy together, could help in her recovery.

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I've never been into sex with multiple partners, or half the other things I did. I grew up watching my dad beat and rape my mom, in front of me. I hid in closets so I didn't have to see and he'd pull me out and tell me to watch so I would "learn a woman's role". A lot of it I don't remember because I blocked it out. As hard as I try to forget, seeing that video brings it all back. Thinking about things I've done, makes me sick. I never wanted to be a woman with a lot of sexual partners, even now I don't. Outside of who I had sex with in that relationship, and my ex-fiance, I have never gone looking for sex.

I got out, and you know what... I was lucky to get out because of lot of people don't. So many wind up being strippers or prostitutes. I got therapy, years and years of it. I came out on the other side, but I didn't even know there was another side. I have spent far more years believing sexual abuse is normal, than years knowing it is not. That is something you cannot comprehend. If my ex-fiance knew, he would always be wondering what will trigger me or bother me, what I'm thinking. It's easier for me if it was never a thought for him. It was a long, painful, hard road to close that chapter of my life, and I wanted to leave it closed.

I was scared, terrified, to tell him. I didn't know how to tell him and have him understand rather than think of me the way so many people here have. I didn't want him to know, it was easier for me. I want to forget it all, not have to constantly be reminded of it or talk about it. I'd rather pretend that history doesn't exist. The rest of my life shouldn't be controlled by my past.

My abuse doesn't define who I am as a person. He knew me, he loved me. He didn't know my past but my past isn't who I am today. The person I am now and who I am with him, how I treat him, what I want in life, what I love, what I hate, he knew it all. Suddenly that all changes because he didn't know that someone decided to touch me as a child? He proved why I didn't tell him. Because even if someone loved me, they wouldn't stick around after knowing my past.
The ex-F woman on the other site, NEVER said her fiance was "boring in bed, unsatisfying, no pleasure aka too small" Not even close! And never a word about penis size. Could Laura be the exBF of hudson's ex-F? Why make up things that were NOT said? Projection?

You can have a big penis and still be a lousy lay. And a woman that just lays there, is also not fun (to me). Everything that laura has said about this woman, wanting gang-bangs, life-style and "double-stuffed", *WAS NEVER SAID* as quoted above.

So, the only thing she omitted was her past sexual abuse as a teenage girl by several boys. Her ex-f didn't want to know and told her so. Which I feel that is childish of ANY person anyway. Otherwise, no cheating, no lying. She didn't want to tell you something about her past that would upset her possible future husband because he couldn't handle it and proved it so.

One man or a hundred men, as long as she doesn't have STDs and you both are in love, what difference does it make? You can get STDs from your very first sex act with another person.

Insecure that SHE is more sexually experienced? Yeah, somewhat - but that was a teenage girl who was treated as an object. Not a human being who has feelings THEN and has feelings NOW. Geez, my wife has had lingering insecurities with my sexual experiences. Typing this now and thinking about it. I'm going to tell her again how much I think she is sexy and how I am so attracted to her as a woman, my wife, mother of our son - that she is the one out of all those other women, that I love making love too and never loved anyone as much as I love her. I *do* love making love with my wife and to do anything she wants that she enjoys.


Seriously hudson. If this woman is your ex-F. Past the inital shock, you are in the wrong. You have a right to break it off with her and you need to break everything off then. But you are blaming her past which was out of her control, on the present issues. If that video was made 6 months ago - then dump her like a hot potato. Young women, teenagers are impressionable. They are easily manipulated into do things they DO NOT want to do or would not do if they were adults. That is why sexual predators are able to do what they do. I know of a 15yr old girl who thought her 30yr old boyfriend who got her pregnant was "Love" - I was so glad to watch the cops drag him away in handcuffs. Today, she is 23 years old, her child taken away from her forver by the state, got into drugs, hung around other bad-boys and is still in prison since the age of 19.

Your ex-F (if the same woman), is a strong woman, a much smarter woman who had the sense to change her life when she gave birth HER son. - her past did shape who she is today. That is the woman you "fell in love with".

She deserves someone better. Can you be a better man? If not, move on and find someone else that fits your requirements.

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Maybe in the bedroom?
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