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post #16 of 111 (permalink) Old 01-31-2017, 07:11 AM Thread Starter
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Better than her wanting to call you mommy?
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LOL!

I wonder the ages of the individuals who did this survey.
Nothing about emotions or feelings, it just reads shallow and like impossible standards to achieve.

I better go work on my pirate routine so I can achieve more booty and some peg leg to make my husband taller! Arr matey this blows! 💀
See, I am not quite sure about the age thing, and instead could very well be how the questions were asked. If you look at the question, note that is said preferential "Sexual Assets", so if you are answering the question per verbatim then emotions or feelings have nothing to do with the question.

I actually think the responses could be fairly accurate if you ask a group of people to solely mention "ideal" physical attributes.

Definitely interested to see pics of you and your pirate H once you guys make the transition
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Of course size matters.

Men said:
healthy body figure (size)
big booty (size)
firm breasts (ok not size but also not something that we can do anything about unless via surgery)

.....meanwhile, men want women to say "size doesn't matter".

Phhhhbbtttt.

It does matter.

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large penis (size)
athletic and fit (size)
tall (size)


Super sorry that you don't get to be a man and think that size matters, but then via double standard voodoo, you expect it doesn't matter to women. Maybe women will still say size doesn't matter when you are around so as not to hurt your ego.

But it does matter. Just like it matters to men. When women can answer honestly and without their own man knowing....they say it matters. Just like men say it matters. Welcome to reality, you can check your fantasy coat at the door.
I think based on the multitudes of penis size threads on TAM, the general consensus is that size matters, but not that much. When women answer that question here, I doubt very much they're concerned about hurting anyone's ego. The general consensus always seems to be average+, with the rare occurrence of a woman who actually prefers small (due to their own size and compatibility).

Women, just like men, will always prefer a tighter fit than a looser one, therefore a woman will almost always go with a penis that is (according to her) bigger than average. Just as we men will always lean towards slightly tighter/smaller.

My guess is that these survey respondents are young, not in committed relationships (or at least married) and that the questions themselves are likely rather vague anyway. If the options are 'small, medium or large', then almost all of the respondents will select 'medium' or 'large'.

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So much for size doesn't matter.
I have been thinking about this and the question was purely physical characteristics and nothing else.

On the thread about what makes a good or bad lover to a woman, penis size wasn't mentioned.

Confidence was probably the biggest and most agreed upon trait of a good lover for a woman.

I think honesty helps us all and that includes the whole picture.

It appears that maybe most woman prefer a penis on the large side of average or just over.

It would seem that, preferences aside, if it isn't unusually small and works good that most women are quite happy with it.

There are umpteen variables that are not taken into account when simply asking about size preferences and women are simply too complex, intelligent and varied to boil all sexual satisfaction and desire down to penis size.

I would imagine a lot of sadness in women for being judged and viewed so shallowly as well as a lot of frustration over not being able to honestly communicate with men.

When women feel safe and empowered, they will give you the keys to their garden and enthusiastically help.you explore every corner.

This isn't a post about you, Eunuch, just my thoughts on this subject.

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One question in particular I am not sure I completely believe how indicative the survey is (aside from the fact that 27.7% would be closer to 1 in 4 women versus 1 in 3 women):

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According to the survey, 1 in 3 women (27.7%) would be open to a bisexual ‘event’ which included another woman. The survey doesn’t clarify what ‘event’ means, so it could be a make-out sesh, some girl on girl action, or some true threesome shenanigans.
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One question in particular I am not sure I completely believe how indicative the survey is (aside from the fact that 27.7% would be closer to 1 in 4 women versus 1 in 3 women):
Those crazy college kids.

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One question in particular I am not sure I completely believe how indicative the survey is (aside from the fact that 27.7% would be closer to 1 in 4 women versus 1 in 3 women):
If it is the younger crowd, I would believe it.

Women are, in general, a little more fluid in sexuality and the younger women haven't fully developed their take on bi experiences which could be as simple as a kiss.

Many women have no desire for a same sex partner but would have some girl play when young and single.

Mrs. Conan and I are exploring that topic together at the moment.
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Mrs. Conan and I are exploring that topic together at the moment.


WTF, no!!!!

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WTF, no!!!!
LOL! Research!!! Just a lot of talking!

We are always going to be monogamous!

Sorry that came out funny!

We are entering into a new level of honest communication between each other and absolutely every subject is on the table to talk about even as far as we are concerned.

We aren't afraid to ask each other about everything and how we think, feel, react, etc. to any situation or circumstances.

We are foundational monogamists though and that isn't changing though we will honestly discuss everything.
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LOL! Research!!! Just a lot of talking!

We are always going to be monogamous!

Sorry that came out funny!

We are entering into a new level of honest communication between each other and absolutely every subject is on the table to talk about even as far as we are concerned.

We aren't afraid to ask each other about everything and how we think, feel, react, etc. to any situation or circumstances.

We are foundational monogamists though and that isn't changing though we will honestly discuss everything.
Fantasy talk and honesty = awesome.

Actually doing it = not awesome.

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I think based on the multitudes of penis size threads on TAM, the general consensus is that size matters, but not that much.
I think there is a very high and strong desire by men to HEAR "not that much" after they hear it DOES matter. If they also hear "but not that much" then they can get rid of the fear that theirs isn't good enough (until the next time they hear size matters....)

I've read all the same threads you have, and I've not come away with the idea that it doesn't matter "that much"....on the contrary, I've read that it does matter "that much".

I've read plenty of women honestly saying it doesn't matter or that it doesn't matter that much to them....but they were not the majority of the responses.

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I have been thinking about this and the question was purely physical characteristics and nothing else.

On the thread about what makes a good or bad lover to a woman, penis size wasn't mentioned.

Confidence was probably the biggest and most agreed upon trait of a good lover for a woman.
I haven't responded to the good lover thread, but I took that thread to be asking about things like skill and attitude, not physical characteristics.

I don't give a damn how confident and skilled a man is if his package is not the within my preferred size and shape range. The reverse is also true for me. I don't care how perfectly sized and shaped the package is if the man doesn't have confidence and skill.

That said, I orgasm from PIV alone. Maybe women who can't orgasm from PIV alone feel size and shape matter a bit less.

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I think there is a very high and strong desire by men to HEAR "not that much" after they hear it DOES matter. If they also hear "but not that much" then they can get rid of the fear that theirs isn't good enough (until the next time they hear size matters....)

I've read all the same threads you have, and I've not come away with the idea that it doesn't matter "that much"....on the contrary, I've read that it does matter "that much".

I've read plenty of women honestly saying it doesn't matter or that it doesn't matter that much to them....but they were not the majority of the responses.
Women have known and accepted size matters. Millions or even tens of millions of us do kegels specifically so we don't become too loose. Yet it seems men hear size matters and become upset in some way.

I've never talked to another woman about the subject and heard size doesn't matter. I have, however, heard a LOT of women say they are willing to live with the size if A) they really have a thing for the guy and B) he has some skill.

Follow the evidence where it leads and question everything.

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I haven't responded to the good lover thread, but I took that thread to be asking about things like skill and attitude, not physical characteristics.

I don't give a damn how confident and skilled a man is if his package is not the within my preferred size and shape range. The reverse is also true for me. I don't care how perfectly sized and shaped the package is if the man doesn't have confidence and skill.

That said, I orgasm from PIV alone. Maybe women who can't orgasm from PIV alone feel size and shape matter a bit less.



Women have known and accepted size matters. Millions or even tens of millions of us do kegels specifically so we don't become too loose. Yet it seems men hear size matters and become upset in some way.

I've never talked to another woman about the subject and heard size doesn't matter. I have, however, heard a LOT of women say they are willing to live with the size if A) they really have a thing for the guy and B) he has some skill.
So you can't have a PIV O without a minimum size and shape?

That is interesting. I've been working on getting Mrs. Conan to be able to O during PIV. She is getting pretty damn close but she actually did O from one of my smaller fingers penetrating her hardly at all.
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Women have known and accepted size matters. Millions or even tens of millions of us do kegels specifically so we don't become too loose. Yet it seems men hear size matters and become upset in some way.
I know and accept that not only does size matter in that way to men, but size also matters in the rest of our bodies. Men desire a healthy woman of a certain size (a large variation here but in each man's eye he has his own size limit). Men desire breasts of a certain size (each has his own preference, his preference may be for smaller but that is still a size). Men desire a waist of a certain size, a booty of a certain size, a height of a certain size.

After typing it nine times in one paragraph, it just struck me that the word size is kind of an odd word!

Anyway....long ago as a teenager, I fully accepted that ALL MEN feel size matters....size of every part of our bodies. I knew this didn't mean that all women had to be swim suit models because lots of men prefer "meat on bones" or "cushion for pushin". Yet they still have a size limit in this regard.

It made perfect sense to me and never bothered me because size matters to me, too. The size of his penis yes, but also the size of his hands and fingers, how tall he is, the size of his shoulders and biceps, his ass, how thick his legs are, the size of his belly....it all matters to me.

I think this is natural and normal. Animals, including humans, have the innate ability to detect good health in a potential partner. For us this is mostly coming from the visual (but there are other cues we are not always aware of). Nature makes us strongly attracted to people we sense are healthy, and then chemistry comes in (also from nature) to tell us if we are a good match or not, beyond just being healthy.

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I know and accept that not only does size matter in that way to men, but size also matters in the rest of our bodies. Men desire a healthy woman of a certain size (a large variation here but in each man's eye he has his own size limit). Men desire breasts of a certain size (each has his own preference, his preference may be for smaller but that is still a size). Men desire a waist of a certain size, a booty of a certain size, a height of a certain size.

After typing it nine times in one paragraph, it just struck me that the word size is kind of an odd word!

Anyway....long ago as a teenager, I fully accepted that ALL MEN feel size matters....size of every part of our bodies. I knew this didn't mean that all women had to be swim suit models because lots of men prefer "meat on bones" or "cushion for pushin". Yet they still have a size limit in this regard.

It made perfect sense to me and never bothered me because size matters to me, too. The size of his penis yes, but also the size of his hands and fingers, how tall he is, the size of his shoulders and biceps, his ass, how thick his legs are, the size of his belly....it all matters to me.

I think this is natural and normal. Animals, including humans, have the innate ability to detect good health in a potential partner. For us this is mostly coming from the visual (but there are other cues we are not always aware of). Nature makes us strongly attracted to people we sense are healthy, and then chemistry comes in (also from nature) to tell us if we are a good match or not, beyond just being healthy.
Math, or proportions, seems to be the determining factor, except where actual PIV, stretch it out, sex is concerned.

We all probably know someone with an outstanding asset that has trouble attracting a mate because their proportions aren't mathematically pleasing.

Tom Cruise is not even close to tall but physically very desirable.
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Tom Cruise is not even close to tall but physically very desirable.
I thought he was cute until the first time I saw him standing next to a leading lady and they were the same height. Instant change in my attraction, high to zero.

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