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post #76 of 111 (permalink) Old 02-01-2017, 09:44 AM
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Thanks, that's kind of what I was getting at. Not that I really care, but I always figured with her sample size (great term) she must have hit more than one.

Funny story about the one. Around 7 years into marriage we run into him getting off a plane in Frankfurt. They briefly greet each other. She could sense I, not usually jealous, wasn't thrilled. She whispered, that's the guy with the small dīck (she had mentioned it sometime before). I was just not happy because he was coming out of first class to our mere business.
I'd much rather be in economy on every plane I board for the rest of my life than live with a small tool. Just sayin'



I learned my lesson in HS. The guy was hot, had a delightful accent, a great personality, and was fun to hang out with. A lot of the other girls were into him. So, since we were friends and all, we eventually got around to fooling around. I, at great personal risk, sneaked him into the house late one night while my parents and sibs were sleeping. If I'd been caught, my parents would have lost their minds and consequences would have been severe and long lasting. We did the deed and, about 35 seconds in, all I could think was "I'm risking getting in serious trouble for this!?!?!"

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There is "small" and then there is SMALL <g>.

I am told my wife came across one that was pinky size which is what, 2.5" or so? She only saw that one once. I can't imagine that is exactly common, most women will not come across that extreme end of the size spectrum in a lifetime.
There is also large and LARGE. My STBXH is hung like a horse as they say. It didn't make sex better, it made it painful. He literally could not get his entire penis inside me but his attempts to try were NOT enjoyable. And at 5'5 I'm not exactly a small woman. Strangely enough the woman he left me for was only 4'10. I don't know how they even managed.

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I do wonder about the study demographics. I'm guessing younger.

I remember about 10-12 years ago Cosmo did a similar study on American college campuses among undergraduate students. The thing that really stood out to me was that 60%!!! of the male respondents said they would commit rape if they knew they could get away with it. Made me sick. The majority of them also said they would rather have an unattractive woman who liked frequent sex than an attractive woman who didnt. But how can they know if the unattractive women like sex when they won't ask them out?

The other thing I remember standing out was that the majority of the guys said they preferred to get their sex through hookups and ONS but the women said they preferred their sex in LTRS. From what I saw in my college campus, it was the women who were compromising.

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@Faithful Wife @FeministInPink @MJJEAN thanks for the more detailed answers!

Details matter. These silly p size studies and threads really don't even scratch the surface on what people like, and yet young men everywhere cling to the numbers as if they mean something.

I get the whole look, touch, feel of it and I suspect those aspects are much more important than size alone. In my day I've seen quite a variety of these things, particularly in porn, and I've got to say it's obvious to me that those women are paid because some of them are downright nasty. And there is such variety - in the shaft, head, surface, testicles... there are probably a bunch of combinations of aspects that would make many different guys appealing to any individual woman. Just like breast size is a ridiculous standard - you have so many women ruining beautiful small breasts to get big, hard fake boobs - they're chasing as silly a measure as guys who take out the tape measure.

I work with data and this is so silly because everyone looks at one or two numbers and thinks they tell a story. They don't - they just add color.

Anyway this is very helpful. I've got a single notch on my belt as does my W, so neither of us have anything to compare to and we don't know anyone who talks about this stuff. Then again everyone's experience is different so an individual's preferences are just another data point to enrich the story.

Bjs are my W's favorite thing - even after decades - so I know 100% of my women are completely satisfied with the packaging . And I have to admit she floats my boat and I've never been tempted really in all these decades.




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Very much appreciate this thread and the candor expressed by the ladies posting here. Reinforces my conclusion that staying with H2 and retaining access to 100% of my income is my best available alternative.

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Thanks, that's kind of what I was getting at. Not that I really care, but I always figured with her sample size (great term) she must have hit more than one.

Funny story about the one. Around 7 years into marriage we run into him getting off a plane in Frankfurt. They briefly greet each other. She could sense I, not usually jealous, wasn't thrilled. She whispered, that's the guy with the small dīck (she had mentioned it sometime before). I was just not happy because he was coming out of first class to our mere business.
Ahh but he was possibly unhappy because he was not keeping company with your travel companion.

I'm not usually jealous either but extremely territorial.
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Very much appreciate this thread and the candor expressed by the ladies posting here. Reinforces my conclusion that staying with H2 and retaining access to 100% of my income is my best available alternative.
Still don't believe it is a good reason to stay in a loveless marriage.

A size preference is not going to determine things for a lot of women.

Not sure about your age group but I know a lot of women that just want to be treated with love and be cared for, who, being honest, might have a size preference but it isn't a deal maker or breaker.

There is a lot of fun to be had in the bedroom besides straight up PIV. Toys and other activities are enjoyed by a lot of fun ladies.
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Ya know I ran into a hilarious Tumblr account where guys submit dikpiks and the women tell them how small and useless they are. It's a riot. Guys post photos alongside chapstick to show their pathetic manhood (and presumably go in the corner and pleasure themselves after they are publicly shamed and ridiculed). I guess the toilet paper tube is a big test - guys show the don't have the length or girth to fill the tube he he

"To each his own"

There are "show-ers" and there are "grow-ers". I think a lot of the latter group are actually cheating a bit.

Human nature - whatever is socially unacceptable becomes a sexual fetish. A small dik I guess qualifies.

I recall (way back in the early '90's for you young'nes) when smoking started to become socially unacceptable. I knew right there and then - NEW FETISH! recently I google "hot girl smoking" and OMG a billion hits - mostly porn sites. Go figure!


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PIV orgasms are the most intense and satisfying for me by a long shot. I also have very sensitive vaginal walls. I, too, can easily feel the length, girth, texture, and temperature of a penis. That's one of the reasons I generally only use dildos or vibrators as part of kink or to put on a show for DH. The feeling of plastic or rubber or whatever they make those things out of just feels so...off and unnatural. Same with condoms. I HATED having to use condoms back in my catting around days because they always felt so...fake.
Talking about temperature, my wife loved having me inside her when I had a fever.

She really liked the fact that my penis felt really hot. Personally I felt pretty numb and crappy at the time, but she thought it was great and still sometimes mentions it.
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Ya know I ran into a hilarious Tumblr account where guys submit dikpiks and the women tell them how small and useless they are. It's a riot. Guys post photos alongside chapstick to show their pathetic manhood (and presumably go in the corner and pleasure themselves after they are publicly shamed and ridiculed). I guess the toilet paper tube is a big test - guys show the don't have the length or girth to fill the tube he he

"To each his own"

There are "show-ers" and there are "grow-ers". I think a lot of the latter group are actually cheating a bit.

Human nature - whatever is socially unacceptable becomes a sexual fetish. A small dik I guess qualifies.

I recall (way back in the early '90's for you young'nes) when smoking started to become socially unacceptable. I knew right there and then - NEW FETISH! recently I google "hot girl smoking" and OMG a billion hits - mostly porn sites. Go figure!
Please explain the bolded part? How can a man be cheating by growing? This is not something under his control.

As for smoking....

I once read something that said that women who smoke get more hits on dating sites than those who don't (can't find the article so not sure if it was accurate, but at the time I believed it). I thought that was so odd, since most men and women both say they do not want to date a smoker.

I asked my ex-h at the time I read the article, "hey honey, this is weird, why would guys want to date a woman who smokes, especially if he doesn't?"

He said "it's totally obvious babe...women who smoke are already used to putting nasty, dirty things in their mouths, so guys think hey this chick will put ANYTHING in her mouth."

Makes sense to a random guy, I guess.

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@Faithful Wife What I meant is that guys send photos in their smallest and most flaccid state to get ridiculed. So they're not hard and are showing how pathetic they are. But I (personally) know that there can be a huge difference for some people and I suspect they are trying to minimize their package because of their humiliation fetish.

What's funny is how seriously many guys take the whole size thing. I read (on a TAM penis thread I think) about a dollar bill test - I guess you compare yourself to a dollar bill. ??? I assumed that meant girth and tried it for fun. It fit perfectly so I assumed I was whatever. Turns out it was a length measure - I guess a dollar bill is 6". Anyway none of that matters - it's just stupid obsessive self doubt.

Or in the case of the Tumblr site, a weird penis size fetish.

But I guess there are tons of girls that post photos and try to get rated - there's a "gone wild" Reddit full of them.

It's like a giant interconnected mess of insecurity. It concerns me because each new generation has less and less personal contact, and this fake digital world undermines self esteem.


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You've never had a PIV orgasm, if I read your post right? And your vaginal walls are very sensitive?

If so, there goes my theory.

PIV orgasms are the most intense and satisfying for me by a long shot. I also have very sensitive vaginal walls. I, too, can easily feel the length, girth, texture, and temperature of a penis. That's one of the reasons I generally only use dildos or vibrators as part of kink or to put on a show for DH. The feeling of plastic or rubber or whatever they make those things out of just feels so...off and unnatural. Same with condoms. I HATED having to use condoms back in my catting around days because they always felt so...fake.

Anyways, I figured that maybe women who couldn't orgasm from PIV alone were just wired with less sensitivity and that explained it. If you're sensitive and can't get there from PIV alone, my theory is probably incorrect.
Here's how it is for me...and I've read stories of and known other women who reflect my experience....however I've also read lots of stories like yours of women who experience O's through PIV....

For me: There are clitoral O's and there are vaginal O's. No doubt that the clitoral system is involved in both. But they are both very different in the way they feel to me.

With clitoral O's, my clit feels like a tiny penis. It gets hard, it gets engorged with blood when I'm aroused, and it responds to direct stimulation, like a penis. At random times, I feel a jolt in my clit (seeing a graphic sexual image, or just being turned on by something/anything), that seems similar to how some men describe the zing in the tip of their penis at a similar turned on moment. To have a clitoral O, I need that thing stroked just right. Yes my mind gets involved and if I am distracted or otherwise not into it, I just can't get there. If I am into, open, and relaxed, I can get into it and get off great (from oral, digital or a vibrator).

My clit seems to respond mostly to the more raw of my sexual feelings. It doesn't respond at all to romantic feelings or thoughts (at least not in that I can feel that zing in it or feel it get engorged with blood, though I do think the whole clitoral system gets involved even though I don't feel those obvious signals).

Then there are my vaginal O's, some that squirt insane amounts of fluid, some that don't.

It sucks that when a woman "comes", this can mean a whole lot of different things. When a man "comes", everyone understands what this means. It means he has an orgasm and he ejaculates.

But orgasm and ejaculating are actually two different things. For both men and women.

Men typically experience the peak of orgasm, and then ejaculate. This is typical and normal (and beautiful, IMO).

But men *can* learn to orgasm but NOT ejaculate.

We are capable of so much more sexually than most people realize. There are so many benefits for men to learn to orgasm without ejaculating...natural birth control at the top, but also it increases a man's ability to be in the control center of his sexual energy. It increases his ability to enjoy orgasm for itself, minus ejaculating. (Like Sting, I'm tantric).

When I have a clitoral O, my body does what I feel a man's body does when he ejaculates.

When I have a vaginal O, my body does what I feel a man's body does when he is in the height of orgasm BEFORE he ejaculates.

Just to throw a side ways wrench into this however....I ejaculate/squirt when I am at the height of a vaginal orgasm. Never at the height of a clitoral orgasm.

For me to reach a vaginal orgasm, none of the raw sexual components nor the direct clitoral stimulation is required. I do not feel the throb or zing in my clit at all when I'm reaching for a vaginal orgasm. Instead I am reaching into a mental place within myself. There is also a physical place that must be stimulated (my g-spot), but my head space is 100% required for me to get there. I also need a huge amount of raw lust in the room. Felt by both of us for a substantial period of time. I have often wondered if mutual lust in a room between myself and a lover set forth a chemical reaction that allows my body to have vaginal O's. It feels like a shift comes over the entire area that surrounds me and when that shift occurs, I know I can go for it.

A partner could not just stimulate my g-spot over and over without my mental participation and get a vaginal orgasm out of me. But they could possibly stimulate my clit over and over without my mental participation and get a clitoral orgasm out of me. They feel completely different to me.

I can give myself clitoral O's (digital or vibe), but I cannot give myself vaginal O's. I possibly could get to that with a g-spot toy, but only if a partner was there to provide the mutual lust. I cannot generate the type of lust required to get to a vaginal O by myself. I *can* do that for a clitoral O, however. That actually doesn't take lust, it just takes stimulation (and maybe some imagination or porn or dirty talk, etc). Lust can add to the experience, but it isn't required for a clitoral O.

Vaginal O's require that mutual lust. For me, the process to get to a vaginal O is usually this:

*Lots of touching and kissing throughout the day, in a lusty way

*We declare our intention to have sex later that night

*Time available to actually have sex occurs....Yay, finally time to have sex!

*Making out...mashing....loving on each other...moving on from foreplay to sex....have sex over a period of time while I'm totally getting into the feelings of it all.....lust grows and grows...we change positions...we talk to each other...I get high off the whole experience....this takes an hour or so in total (including foreplay)...

*He gets off. I love it. I encourage it. When the moment comes, I'm ready for it completely and sort of go to a differently plane within myself as I feel or see him getting off. It is incredible.

*We relax for a moment. I soar on angel's wings due to the high I'm on.

*He says "ready to come on me baby?" I say "oh yes please".

*We set up a bunch of towels that I sit on, and he fingers me (in the "come here" position) with his arm flat on the bed and me on top of it. I slide down on his finger, and we do our thing. We know exactly what is necessary as far as pressure and movement to get to my g-spot. By this time, it is already flaming and ready to go.

*I go into myself, to a place that unlocks this type of O. He is included in that place with me entirely. We are both present. The mutual lust we've just experienced and my intense feelings surrounding his O have put us here together. It is a mental space. I cannot emphasize this enough. I don't even know how to describe it. It is nothing like the raw physical feelings of a clitoral O for me. (Though again, no doubt that the whole system is involved even if I don't feel the zing).

*I have a lot of control over when I tip over the edge the for the first O, but after that first time....I am basically at his mercy. He can make me come over and over and over and....I've never found out how long this could last because I've always passed out first.

*After I've had however many I can handle, we collapse on each other for a time....maybe take a sex nap.....then I have to scurry around and grab up all the wet towels and sometimes pull the sheets off (dammit, I soaked through them all again) and put it all in the laundry. Stupid huge amounts of sex towel laundry are a side effect of me getting regular vaginal O's.

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In rare circumstances with the right angle, I can have vaginal O's from PIV. When I have done this, it has been the most incredible experiences of my life.

Clitorals O's? Never and not even close during PIV....unless adding a small vibe to the clit. This has been fun a few times but I find I don't want to bother with the stupid vibrating inanimate thing when I'm having so much fun without it.

I have had a handful of blended clitoral and vaginal O's. I can only guess that those are what you are experiencing, and yes I am envious. I can understand how this is totally possibly within some women's anatomy.

I just don't seem to have that type of anatomy.

I do not enjoy at ALL any inanimate object inside of me, to include condoms and any type of insertible toy. There's just something "dead" about it. I need blood pumping through it in order for me to react to something inside of me. Only a penis or a finger will give me the incredible sensations I described in that other post. And that feeling I described....will not give me an O.

However, it will be part of what generates the lust that causes me to have endless vaginal O's shortly afterward.

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@Faithful Wife What I meant is that guys send photos in their smallest and most flaccid state to get ridiculed. So they're not hard and are showing how pathetic they are. But I (personally) know that there can be a huge difference for some people and I suspect they are trying to minimize their package because of their humiliation fetish.

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It's like a giant interconnected mess of insecurity. It concerns me because each new generation has less and less personal contact, and this fake digital world undermines self esteem.
Oh! Ok, I get what you meant by cheating a little now.

As for insecurity fetishes....meh. You know, why not? I mean, really all the tiny penis fetish thing is about is being degraded.

Lots of people feel sexual arousal when being degraded. Its just....a thing. You know?

I don't really feel arousal surrounding being degraded necessarily, but I can also understand it.

"You like that, don't you, you dirty sl*t?"

I mean, this is pretty common dirty talk that many women love. Lots of men love it, too. It may be even harder for them to admit that they love it than it is for women.

Degradation can expand so far....to the very core of a person...."you worthless piece of ****"....."you stupid f*cking idiot"........and for their own reasons, some people hear these things and get turned on.

"Your sickening tiny penis makes me want to puke". It is really just the same thing.

If people are into it, it is all good. I don't think it even necessarily means they are insecure.

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There is also large and LARGE. My STBXH is hung like a horse as they say. It didn't make sex better, it made it painful. He literally could not get his entire penis inside me but his attempts to try were NOT enjoyable. And at 5'5 I'm not exactly a small woman. Strangely enough the woman he left me for was only 4'10. I don't know how they even managed.
Maybe worth mentioning that one's over all body size doesn't always indicate small/large this-or-that, regardless of gender. My ex wife was 4'11 and was smaller down there, yes. A woman I was with briefly was ~5'5", did not have a petite frame, and was insanely small and tight, to the point where it simply didn't work with me. Another woman I was with was average height and frame (if not on the slim side) and had perhaps the loosest vagina I've encountered.

Same goes with men. I'm 5'7", and I'm no horse, but I'm fairly far above average, approaching 'large' in both length and girth. A guy I've known since I was 8 or 9 and grew up with, he's 6'4", well-built, and he says he's in the 5" range. Good friends of my wife and I - she's 5'9", he's 5'3" (!!!!). She's curvy and very leggy, he's stocky and fit. She's hinted over the years that he's not lacking in that dept.

Appendages (ears, nose, breasts, and yes, penises) don't grow in proportion to one's body or skeletal frame, they're separate. I'd venture to say those things are purely genetic. A family with big noses, for example, will pass that trait on through generations more often than not. Depends on which side of the family the child gets those genes from. Mom has a flat chest, it's a safe bet that her daughters will, too. The women in my wife's family are all relatively the same size, shape and height.

There are very tall women who have flat chests, and very small women who have huge breasts. There are big men with small penises, and small men with huge penises.

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The post below (FW's) should be the be-all, end-all of these penis size threads (and hijacks). Somebody should copy/paste it into every subsequent penis size thread, and lock it immediately after. Honestly.

That's not to say that other women's opinions should be discounted, but this post is definitive, and comes from a self-styled penis expert who is honest and blunt and doesn't give a damn about our poor man-feelings.

As far as size goes, FW sums it up perfectly - average is fine, good even. Above average is more desirable. I don't think this is surprising news to men. Length matters for stroke depth/length. Thickness matters for exactly the reasons you think it would. Being average in both of those regards is perfectly fine. Perfectly fine - not just "it'll do".

And above all - everything is relative. FW's 'ideal' (7.5" x 5.5") may be too big for some. It may even be too small for some.

Where we men (including myself) get hung up on things is this - the alleged average penis is 5.1-5.6" in length, and 4.8" in girth. As this is an anonymous place and you don't know me, I don't care about disclosing my general stats - I am almost 2" longer and more than 2" thicker than these so-called averages, which would be significantly higher than the average in both regards. Here's the thing - not one woman has ever commented on the size of my junk, ever.

My sample size is probably smaller than most, however (~12 women have seen it). Regardless, this leads me to believe that all of those women have seen/had bigger, thus making what I have not exactly stand out. Which is fine, and is the law of averages. I doubt there's a woman reading this who hasn't seen or had bigger. Something that did make them say "wow" or "no way". My ex wife once told me she had one those "no way" penises. So mine, in comparison, did not generate that feeling, obviously. My current wife has never said anything about her past experiences in that regard, nor have I asked, but as she's never commented on my size, it stands to reason that she's had bigger. So what?

And this is why we guys with ~average penises get hung up on it all too often - only the truly monstrous ones generate any kind of comment. This is why guys with average (or even bigger) penises walk around thinking they're inferior. They require this acknowledgement or confirmation that they're not small. Or worse, they assume because their partner doesn't say anything at all, that they're lacking in that dept. I know I'm not, yet not one woman has said anything to me. Luckily, I don't require that kind of validation. Yes, in part because I know I'm not lacking, but also because I don't attach any feeling of self-worth to my penis. If I were smaller than average, I'd simply seek out a partner to whom my penis was a good fit. As I've mentioned before in these threads, two of the women I've been with would have absolutely preferred an average or smaller penis size. It's not like they don't exist.

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To the first bolded....it is more than just about length. There is also the overall look, color, shape, contour, circumcised or not, etc. I think some penises are beautiful, others just ok, others not so much. I will not bother to describe it down much further because it is kind of irrelevant since every woman (for whom this matters) will have their different preferences, but when my girls and I are locker room talkin', we talk about more than length and girth. The look of the thing matters to us, but we don't always agree on what it should be lookin' like.

To the second bolded....I can absolutely feel the difference in girth. It makes a huge difference (he he).

When I was young and first sexually active, I did not feel much inside of me. The thrusting was nice, but even that would get boring pretty quick. I was still into sex for the whole experience, the passion, the lust, the intimacy, the fun. But the actual feeling of the P inside my V....wasn't that much on my radar (though my body always responded appropriately with wetness).

Then after I had a baby and had to do my kegels before and after birth....after about, oh maybe a year of doing them regularly....I all of a sudden (I remember the very first time it happened) could feel EVERYTHING in there. Not at the bottom out point, like FIP said, unless he's bumping my cervix or something. But at the entry point and that one inch or so in that FIP was talking about....OMG....I can feel EVERYTHING. It feels like much more than one inch, but that's probably just because the feeling is so intense.

Think of putting your finger in your mouth. Inside your cheeks, your tongue, even the roof of your mouth. If you close your mouth down and suck on your finger, you can feel your finger with your mouth and tongue, right? If your finger was hot, or if it had a blister, or if it was cold, or if the skin was rough and worn like a piece of dried fruit...you would be able to determine all of this with the inside of your mouth. The tiniest movement your finger made, not even in and out just any slight movement at all, you would feel with the inside of your mouth.

That's the only way I can describe what it feels like to have a beautiful penis inside of me....only much more vivid and intense. I could just lay completely still with it inside of me with no movement and no thrusting, and could just focus on those feelings inside and be in heaven just from that alone. When I'm in that zone, there is nothing in the world better. This is why I love sex so much! I can feel EVERYTHING, every movement, every ridge, every vein....the blood pumping.......goddamn, YUMM! It feels like the penis has electricity running through it! I can feel it pulse and pump and twitch when he ejaculates. This always makes me start twitching inside too in response.

The more girth the better for this feeling, too (not including Red Bull cans). The length, as pointed out already, means there is a longer thrust....just more wonderful feelings for me.

Now if we move on to getting pounded....that is a whole different feeling. I can't focus down on the feelings at the opening as much, because I'm getting this whole other amazing type of feeling from it. Length is more important than girth for pounding, for me, because to REALLY pound me, you're going to have to be back from me more than just a few inches to really slam back into me.

I have had this discussion with girlfriends, and a lot of them say they don't really feel much inside of them, not even at the opening. I have had to assume it is because they aren't doing their kegels but I don't really know.

Keep in mind, I do not O from PIV alone. It isn't about O's to me. I love intercourse. I love f*cking. I love making love. I love having a lovely P inside of me in anyway. (A lovely P meaning, one that I have already picked and know and love very well )

I also love touching my man's penis, I love giving oral, I love just hanging out with it. I love watching the various stages it goes through. I love taking a bath with a man and watch what appears to be a sea creature come alive between his legs and go wandering around in the water of its own accord (only as far as it can go, of course). I love fondling it when it is soft, kissing it, petting it, and the testicles too. I love having my face slapped with a beautiful erection, not necessarily roughly. Just a nice smack, smack, smack against my cheek, and I can hear it inside my mouth and head as it slaps my cheeks against my teeth. I love feeling the weight of it while doing this.

I have O's but they come from other means. I would love to have O's from PIV, but I actually feel no loss since it is something I've never had or worried about. I have too much fun having sex to even wish for an O. When I need O's, I get them and they rock. Not as much as sex rocks, though.....which is tough to explain, there's some other technical stuff going on for me with that.

Now to get realistic...and possibly shatter the idea that I'm a size queen. I'm really not. I'd do just fine with a 5 or 6 incher, as long as there is at least adequate girth and the man it is attached to is a good lover (for me) in all other respects. Since I love everything from just having it inside me without even moving to getting pounded into the wall, I'm a pretty happy woman when I'm in love with a man and his penis and we are rocking the house down regularly. But the look of it, again, super important....not just size but how it looks.

If I am considering a long term relationship with someone, and I get to the goods and discover it just isn't going to something I can fall in love with....I would end it, yes. I doubt I would ever say this is why, but if I was forced to or if it really mattered to the man that he knew the actual truth, I would say it. I am glad I've never been in this position, it would be a tough call, but I would still make it. Sex is so important to me that I just wouldn't allow myself to end up in a place that I didn't love his penis. He would deserve a woman who does love it, so setting him free would be best for both of us.

As I already answered in another thread, about 7.5 inches long and 5.5 or so inches thick would be ideal if I could design my own perfect penis. But honestly....that's just an ideal and I've never stopped and thought "gee I wish he was 7.5 inches and a little thicker" when I've been getting my brains f*cked silly. I'm just loving every minute of it and that's all I'm focused on.

"Every time I read your posts about your wife I want to swallow strychnine."
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