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post #16 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-13-2017, 03:43 PM
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Cymbalta and birth control both have negative side effects on libido. Has she tried Wellbutrin?
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Cymbalta. It has been the only one that even works moderately well for her. She has tried counseling as well, but that has not helped.
Yep, loss of libido is a very common side effect of Cymbalta.

Counseling does not fix the underlying problems that cause anxiety. It can get a person to address certain life situations if they the anxiety is situational. But if it's not, counseling will not fix it. With situational depression and/or anxiety, counseling can help the person fix/face the situation that is causing the problem. But with non-situational depression/anxiety counseling really only gives a person tools to handle ongoing depression/anxiety. Generally it's because persistent depression/anxiety is chemical based.

There are things besides and depressants and anti anxiety drugs that can reduce or get ride of these things. For example, it's been found that regular exercise is just as effective as the drugs in most cases.

Here is a link to a book that might help you and your wife.

Change Your Brain, Change Your Life (Revised and Expanded): The Breakthrough Program for Conquering Anxiety, Depression, Obsessiveness, Lack of Focus, Anger by Daniel G. Amen M.D.
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Cymbalta and birth control both have negative side effects on libido. Has she tried Wellbutrin?
Yes. Not effective.

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Cymbalta and birth control both have negative side effects on libido. Has she tried Wellbutrin?
I've heard of that as well

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Too bad Wellbutrin does not work for her. It usually increases libido.
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Yes. Not effective.

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How about nefazodone or Mirtazapine (Remeron)? These SSRIs seem to have less sexual side effects. I'm not saying the Cymbalta is actually the cause, but it does have negative effects on libido in anywhere from 30-70% of those taking it. Even birth control pills can have negative effects on libido. With that combination it seems the chances are pretty high that the medicines are causing the majority of the LD, provided that everything else is good in the relationship.
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well here is the $64 question, has any woman on here taken B12 and found an increase in libido?

a lot of these "my supplement is best" online blogs are pure B.S.

the only thing i have heard for sure helps the libido is bioidentical HRT seeds for women over 45 years old.
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My wife has continually told me that I am not the cause of her issues. She said that the hottest guy could be in bed with her and she would still have no desire to have sex.
My wife once complained to her doctor about having ZERO libido. Hearing her say that did not phase me one bit and at the time I was much more concerned that her other health issues be addressed so that she could become as healthy as possible. As for her "zero libido" I knew that I could manage to work with that.

So how does one approach a partner that has zero libido and improve their interest in sex? You don't! You work on other things and then as things improve you learn that your partner's sexual response is much different than your own and has likely been healthy all along.

SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS #1 - Women only experience sexual pleasure in the form of an evolutionary jackpot. Because we are all made up of the same parts, just arranged into different places, women also get to enjoy the urge to orgasm which is only critical in procreation for the male. (This is recent research, not old school and close minded crap). Essentially woman have orgasms for the same reason men have nipples.


SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS #2 - Sexual pleasure is derived from personal development and validation. Some of us want to please others, and some of us want to be pleased. Some of us have never learned how to be selfish and others have never learned to be selfless. For those in social work doing the most selfless jobs, it is very well know that you can not help others unless you can first help yourself. Sometimes it is actually the most difficult for one to learn how to be selfish, simply because they don't feel deserving of anything. Personal development in a marriage with regards to learning how to be better at both being selfish and selfless improves sexual wellbeing.

SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS #3 - Everyone's sexual response is DIFFERENT! Most often the model of what is required from a male in order to successfully procreate is mistakingly used by both men and women as a standard model of what sex should be like. Because we are all made up of the same parts but put together differently, many women grow up thinking they are sexually broken when comparing themselves to a male and may never understand that they are actually perfectly healthy and capable of something perhaps even more profound sexually than a male because they grew up comparing themselves to the wrong model of sexuality.

SCIENTIFIC HYPOTHESIS #4 - Everyone is healthy exactly as they are.

So @levma perhaps you just need to keep a very open mind and help your wife discover herself sexually and learn to appreciate that she may very well be healthy just the way she is. Perhaps she enjoys too much being selfless and always helping other and meanwhile never caring for herself. An easy way to teach her to be selfish is by allowing HER to help you, even if you don't need help! It will give her a sense of purpose and belonging, and then you can teach her that she also has to help herself as well before helping you.

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In most cases, no pill increases libido. Some things depress libido, and removing them brings libido to its "default" level for that person. So if your wife is suffering from B12 deficiency, and that deficiency is depressing her libido, then maybe B12 supplements will help. But if your wife has satisfactory levels of B12, adding more B12 in all likelihood will not increase her libido. Except maybe via the placebo effect.

As I have said many times, if there were a pill your spouse could take to increase their libido, and it worked, we would all know about it. Everyone knows about viagra. Pfizer has made billions of dollars of profit from that blue pill. If there were a pill that increased libido, we would know who made billions off that, too.

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