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post #16 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-09-2017, 10:16 PM
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Re: You mean a woman's orgasms are tied to his genes and income?

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I saw the following article and thought it interesting and relevant to sex and marriage.

I guess good genes, confidence, high regard among her friends and income are important to a woman's satisfactory (and orgasmic) sex life.

Sort of puts all those MW Davis and Glover "Get a Life" recommendations in perspective. Get fit, handsome, confident, make her girlfriends think you are hot stuff and build your career become a high probability path to rocking her world in bed.





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I honestly don't buy it.

A woman picks a guy she finds hot, his personality, what they have in common and not how much money do you make.

One is love, the other is shallow and no better than a prostitute.

Women are the same as men. We both like our opposites to be hot, sexy, in good shape, etc. Not rocket science.

I also like hot lesbians and all they do....no real surprise for us guys there. Not surprised its the most searched.....

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It's probably shocking to men convinced that women aren't visual. Women like hot men.
I have no trouble accepting that women are visual. Just as visual as men in terms of what turns them on. However, I also believe that a higher percentage of women than men are willing to marry someone who does not turn them on if the person brings steady job, co-parenting skills, etc. to the mix.

Of course, I am also sexist enough to think that this is an easier standard to uphold for men because most men find a large portion of women sufficiently attractive to "do" on a regular basis, whereas most women do not find most men sufficiently attractive. So women have to be willing to compromise on hotness, because here aren't enough "hot enough" men to go around. Whereas there are more than enough "hot enough" women to go around for most men, so most men don't have to compromise - but only because their standards are so much lower!

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I honestly don't buy it.

A woman picks a guy she finds hot, his personality, what they have in common and not how much money do you make.
Bzzz, sorry, thank you for playing. I have had sex with more than one woman, and I can assure you that none of them found me hot. I can also assure you that many more women found me "doable" after I graduated from professional school, had a nice income and my own apartment than found me "doable" when I was a student. I exercised less as an employee. I was more stressed out. I had less time available to spend with them. Yet more of them found me "doable". Greater "hotness"? Nope. Greater income and earning potential? Ding ding ding! We have a winner.

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Sybians must have some amazing DNA then.
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uhhh, where did I put that bull**** stamp. I got a job for it. That study is as fake as a three dollar bill. It scientifically makes no sense.

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Did this study actually look at the DNA of men to see if they had superior DNA? Are looks and income/accomplishment the only measurements of superior DNA?

The study makes sense to a point. But the statement of the conclusion is rather weird.

Let's first look some of the primary things that attacks men to women: looks are apparently #1. Then comes what he things/feels about her.

Does this mean that a man's orgasm is a trick used by the bodies of men to select which women he passes on his genes to?

Note that a woman does not have to orgasm to get pregnant. Or to say that female orgasms are a trick by the bodies of women to weed out the genes of less desirable men makes little sense.

Now if one wanted to say that women would be more likely to orgasm during sex with a man that she considers more desirable (good looking, accomplished, etc.), yea that makes sense. It's because just like with men, women prefer sex with partners that they find highly desirable.
orgasms may help women get pregnant though. some species the female has to orgasm to ovulate, but in humans there is signs that show sperm get sucked up into the fertile ovary's tube by the orgasm. So it is possible that it is a selective process.

However, men have only one concern when spreading their seed biologically; it takes about 40 mins to regenerate a batch, concerns over std, territorial dispute with other male. Women have to balance good provider with good genetics. Men can find a horrible provider, if genetics are good, it's not much resource expenditure. Women can get good genetics, but they are gambling a lot more resources on it than a man is.


I think women and men have a lot in common with selectivity of genetics, i think men idealistically want the best they can find, but will settle more easily than a woman will on looks. Women however will trade looks for a good provider.


Also what defines good genetics for men and women are both similar, symmetry, healthy looking features etc.. A man might be a capable provider but not a willing provider, that is why women have to be deeper with the personality where as men can be less selective about personality. Men are looking for a young fertile healthy baby maker, women on the other hand don't care about youthfulness as much as they are more deeper thinking on the issue. An older man might be a better and more willing provider while still carrying good genetics. That is why more women can find older men attractive still where as a 25 year old man seldom find a 60 year old woman as an acceptable mate.
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Humans behavior does not seem to be driven by basic urges anymore. If men wanted to make as many women pregnant as they could, a business of impregnation tourism would have sprung up where women in poor countries would be paid to have the children of wealth men. Men would have no interest in an sexual act other than PIV. Men would leave relationships as soon as the woman was pregnant. No couple would ever adopt.

People don't in general act like that. The motivations for modern humans are far more complicated and survival of ones genes is only one of the many things being optimized.
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That is why more women can find older men attractive still where as a 25 year old man seldom find a 60 year old woman as an acceptable mate.
Recent research places sexual maturity now at age 60. A 25 year old male is not thinking about the age of a 60 year old woman, but mostly if she is hot or not....



....and if she is wealthy and can also take care of him financially, well then young men can seek the same things young females seek.

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I saw the following article and thought it interesting and relevant to sex and marriage.

I guess good genes, confidence, high regard among her friends and income are important to a woman's satisfactory (and orgasmic) sex life.

Sort of puts all those MW Davis and Glover "Get a Life" recommendations in perspective. Get fit, handsome, confident, make her girlfriends think you are hot stuff and build your career become a high probability path to rocking her world in bed.





What is an orgasm? Scientists' explanation with SHOCK you | Life | Life & Style | Express.co.uk
Well, if that's truly the case, then in my economic state, I should only be able to induce an orgasm to my lady of say, maybe 1-1/2 seconds duration?

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Humans behavior does not seem to be driven by basic urges anymore. If men wanted to make as many women pregnant as they could, a business of impregnation tourism would have sprung up where women in poor countries would be paid to have the children of wealth men. Men would have no interest in an sexual act other than PIV. Men would leave relationships as soon as the woman was pregnant. No couple would ever adopt.

People don't in general act like that. The motivations for modern humans are far more complicated and survival of ones genes is only one of the many things being optimized.
our primordial drive and attraction in a mate is still based on the ideal of making babies, but the acts themselves are more complex. We are no longer a fish in the ocean squirting sperm on as many eggs in the rocks as possible, but we still have that foundation in our sex drive.

sex is more of a social bonding and communicaiton system than anything. we want sexual acts other than PIV because it shows commitment to someone else and committment from them to us.

Men don't want to dedicate resources to a mate that doesn't want them because then they are just a cuck, and women don't want to put out for just some guy who won't stick around. However, if the man can plant his seed in some girl for the moment there is no risk, and if a woman can go way out of her league with a one night stand can get a prized seed she will do that while still lookingf or that ideal knight who will save her. Women have two contradictory goals, men have basically one goal which is to spread the seed. However, when logic is applied over instincts, women and men will both pick mates that are loyal and comitted. However, hte instincts often drive the decision more than logic.


Men look for looks, and overlook personality, women look at looks and overlook personality too, but they also look at the traits mentioned above. Also, women want a son who is a seed spreader too, so if they find a man who has those personality traits he is desireable. thats why men are socialy more allowed to be ****s while women are shunned.

men don't want to be a cuck, so the ****tiness might be fun for a ngiht but men will move on quickly and won't dedicate resources to that girl as oyu cannot gurantee offspring produced are your own.
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