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post #16 of 64 (permalink) Old 04-18-2017, 02:57 PM
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someone will be along to point out that you knew how she was when you got married, even though that doesn't really help you now.

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OP, she was this way when you married her; so she hasn't done a thing wrong.

She has a great body which has rebounded to pre-pregnancy conditions. You think she is beautiful [?]; but yet, she isn't enough the way she is, and your eyes are wandering.


If *she* would really like to makeover her personal appearance and style-----we only have your information to go on, so we don't know------then, by all means, treat her to the works.

Maybe she just needs financial permission. It sounds like you hit the jackpot again, in getting a woman who is sensible with money.

If a go-ahead on spending the time and money on herself is all she needs, then great. She'll morph into a sexy, fashionable version of herself, and all is well.

If you are trying to shove a square peg into a round hole. Then a lot of unhappiness awaits the two of you.

And apparently she's now not sexy enough in bed either.

If this is because she's not measuring up to porn; then my advice to you is to grow up.

If it's 'cause she's not measuring up to past girlfriends; you are a very cruel man.

If this is because you, of your own personality, need dirty talk or a more seductive woman; then you have to tell her; and you both may need to see a sex therapist, or read books, or watch webinars; so on and so forth. This is something you want; which she may be able to "learn" to accommodate you. You guys may need some outside help. Because, apparently, dirty talk and being the take charge, confidant woman, is not her style.


Just like people who are born gay can't become straight. People usually don't suddenly change and take on sexual personas that are not naturally who they are.


Here we see how the husband's more prolific sexual past can hurt the wife. We usually pay much more attention on TAM to the wife with the colorful past and the relatively inexperienced husband experiencing retroactive jealousy and feelings of inadequacy.

It goes both ways.
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There is nothing more sexy than a confident woman. The makeup washes off, clothes go out of fashion, sexy underwear soon gets boring...confidence is a great aphrodisiac.

I fear that if you try and change her appearance in a way she does not feel comfortable she may lose her confidence and she may just feel awkward. If your wife has always been this way then it does seem unlikely that she would commit to completely changing her lifestyle. She sounds a lot like my sister who does not take time on her appearance (no makeup, greying hair, worn shoes, jeans shredding at the hem, washed up jumpers). I take a lot of time to look good, do my makeup, pick out nice clothes, experiment with my hair - it is very important to me. But when we holiday together it is always my sister that gets the attention from men and I am convinced it is because she is so confident and fun. Whereas I am shy and reserved.

So my advice for what it is worth is to encourage your wife to be more confident and playful in the bedroom. Sensual oil massages, stripping, teasing, using 'props', learning great hj and bj skills, writing erotic stories. There are a plethora of books that may help.
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Why thank you. The queen of tease and denial.
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I first dated my wife in 1980. I still think she looks hot in mismatch socks and a t-shirt.

She does wear lingerie that she is comfortable in around the house, and I appreciate the effort, but I'd be completely happy without it.

With time people become less attractive. If you are luck though, you never notice the changes.




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My wife is the type of woman who wears leggings, a t-shirt and mismatched socks every day of her life. On a good day she puts on some skinny jeans and a t-shirt, maybe shorts if it's hot out. We met as teenagers and back then I didn't give a rats behind what she wore, as long as she would take it off . To work she wears scrubs, so between that and leggings I rarely see her in anything else. She wears the same pair of shoes until they are totally worn out.
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Oh, by the way, I also would like you to know that your thread has made me realize that I haven't been paying enough attention to my appearance lately. Our anniversary is this weekend and I haven't given a single thought to what to wear, as usual, and if I don't I will end up wearing something I really don't want to. So I am making a point to look good for my husband when we go out. I will start by modeling the dresses I have (he likes me in a dress and I NEVER wear them) for him so he can let me know what looks good. I also will give myself a haircut (i've let my hair go lately - it's due for a cut!) and make sure I use some make up.
In my opinion, that would be a very good anniversary present for your husband!
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Why thank you. The queen of tease and denial.


I think she kept him bamboozled without sex for 9 [?] years.

Once she gave in; she was doomed!
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I have a more colorful sexual past than she does (I'm her only partner)
You might try teaching her what you like to in the bedroom. She has no clue about what you want. Buy her lingerie; let her know how you enjoy seeing her. If she doesn't know the right way to touch you, show her. As she learns what you want, she will become "more sexy", at least in the bedroom.

Sexiness outside of the bedroom is another story, especially for working women. Make-up and styling her hair take time; she might not have time for that on every day, and you should be mindful of that.

In the end, I would hope that you find other things about your wife "sexy" that aren't necessarily physical. There are a lot of emotional aspects of "sex appeal", and overall, I think it's either there or it isn't.
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Don't feel bad, a least your wife didn't gain 100 lbs and have no intention of losing any of it. We have talked about her unwillingness to exercise but she just doesn't want to. My daughters try to get her to wear makeup and look a little nicer but she doesn't want to do that either. She doesn't care that she's not attractive and it doesn't seem to bother her. I really don't understand that either because when she was 25 shortly after we got married she was an absolute knockout. My guess is that she's settled in life, has what she set out to have and doesn't care about pleasing others any more.
I appreciate my wife for not doing a bait and switch. She is the same person now as she was a decade ago when I first met her, with natural changes for growing up.

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This is the norm for many moms OP. My parents had 6 kids beginning at 18. I have never ever seen my mom buy anything for herself outside of shoes and uniforms for work. I have never seen her go out except on a couple occasions when her sisters visited from another country. The only times she's worn makeup is when we were old enough to buy our own and forced her to let us put it on her. The only time I've seen her in a dress/heels is when she's heading to church. To this day she has zero hobbies because she never had time to do anything outside of working/raising us. I'm pretty sure my father would say she has zero sex appeal too.

Don't let this be your wife. The advice you're receiving here should help you avoid that.
My wife has few hobbies, she threw them away when we had our first child. Between parenting, working and going through high school she didn't have time for anything else. I should encourage her to get back into them again or find new ones. All that she does for her "me time" it workout from home and go running. I don't want her to look back and have many regrets. Having our first child when she was a teenager affected her a lot more than me and she still carries some jealousy over that. That I was older and head in life, that I didn't miss out on things and had more time to do things than her (though I shouldn't have). She has done a great job at taking care of our kids, I want her to take care of herself as well.

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Hi, here I am.

OP, she was this way when you married her; so she hasn't done a thing wrong.

She has a great body which has rebounded to pre-pregnancy conditions. You think she is beautiful [?]; but yet, she isn't enough the way she is, and your eyes are wandering.


If *she* would really like to makeover her personal appearance and style-----we only have your information to go on, so we don't know------then, by all means, treat her to the works.

Maybe she just needs financial permission. It sounds like you hit the jackpot again, in getting a woman who is sensible with money.

If a go-ahead on spending the time and money on herself is all she needs, then great. She'll morph into a sexy, fashionable version of herself, and all is well.

If you are trying to shove a square peg into a round hole. Then a lot of unhappiness awaits the two of you.

And apparently she's now not sexy enough in bed either.

If this is because she's not measuring up to porn; then my advice to you is to grow up.

If it's 'cause she's not measuring up to past girlfriends; you are a very cruel man.

If this is because you, of your own personality, need dirty talk or a more seductive woman; then you have to tell her; and you both may need to see a sex therapist, or read books, or watch webinars; so on and so forth. This is something you want; which she may be able to "learn" to accommodate you. You guys may need some outside help. Because, apparently, dirty talk and being the take charge, confidant woman, is not her style.


Just like people who are born gay can't become straight. People usually don't suddenly change and take on sexual personas that are not naturally who they are.


Here we see how the husband's more prolific sexual past can hurt the wife. We usually pay much more attention on TAM to the wife with the colorful past and the relatively inexperienced husband experiencing retroactive jealousy and feelings of inadequacy.

It goes both ways.
No, you're right. I can't change her if she absolutely does not want to change. If she wants to wear leggings until the day she dies then I'll have to live with that. Maybe buy some new pairs to change things up... bright side? You are right that I don't think I have ever clearly told my wife to go blow a bunch of money. She might need to hear it very clearly from me. I do not take for granted that she is wise with money, better than I am.

My wife's body would be beautiful regardless but I know I am lucky that she did go back to her pre-pregnancy body. She walked away from two pregnancies with no extra weight, no stretch marks or loose skin, she didn't need a csection. I don't know if she was just lucky or she did something to achieve that. I am happy (that sounds wrong, I'd be happy regardless) that she went back to her tiny, buck nothing size.

I do not compare my wife to porn and I try not to compare her to other women. When I am with my wife, I think about my wife. There are times when I miss not certain people but how good the experiences were. My sex life with my wife is fine. It regular enough, she doesn't lay there like a dead fish, she initiates sometimes, but it's nothing to write home about. I'm not going to say to my wife that I was with X and she gave an awesome BJ, and I was with Y and she was amazing on top, or Z had great orgasms. No. I just wish we could spice it up a little. It's fine, but maybe it could be better than just fine.

I am not saying this to be a ****, I'd rather not say it but it's important for context. When we met she was literally just someone I wanted to hook up with and another notch. Things changed or I wouldn't be here and married to her, but she feels like I'm only with her because I knocked her up. She took care of our child and I kept screwing around, literally, until someone smacked some sense into me, also literally. From what she has said to me I gather that she feels like I'm not really into her regardless and never have been, not really attracted to her regardless. She watched me go from woman to woman in our younger days and many of them were the ones who dressed on the ****tier side. She is nothing like those women, and I'm GLAD that she isn't, but she doesn't see it that way. On her sexiest day she doesn't feel like she could live up to other women I have been with. That's something she has said.

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There is nothing more sexy than a confident woman. The makeup washes off, clothes go out of fashion, sexy underwear soon gets boring...confidence is a great aphrodisiac.

I fear that if you try and change her appearance in a way she does not feel comfortable she may lose her confidence and she may just feel awkward. If your wife has always been this way then it does seem unlikely that she would commit to completely changing her lifestyle. She sounds a lot like my sister who does not take time on her appearance (no makeup, greying hair, worn shoes, jeans shredding at the hem, washed up jumpers). I take a lot of time to look good, do my makeup, pick out nice clothes, experiment with my hair - it is very important to me. But when we holiday together it is always my sister that gets the attention from men and I am convinced it is because she is so confident and fun. Whereas I am shy and reserved.

So my advice for what it is worth is to encourage your wife to be more confident and playful in the bedroom. Sensual oil massages, stripping, teasing, using 'props', learning great hj and bj skills, writing erotic stories. There are a plethora of books that may help.
My wife must have sex appeal for some men because she does get attention when we are out. I have no problem with my wife being hit on or some mild flirting, as long as she comes home to me at the end of the day. When she does tell me that someone flirted with her at work or the store, I kind of like it. She isn't a confident woman, she is still rather quiet though not as shy as she use to be. Funny enough, the vast majority of men who have flirted with her or ogled her have been foreign or from another culture. Come to think of it, it was the same in high school as well with the foreign exchange kids. She notices it as well.

Reading erotica might help her, she's into things like that. As long as I have known her I have tried to get her to strip or tease, no such luck. I can do those things, and make somewhat of a fool of myself, but she doesn't have the confidence to do it. Especially stripping, that would be like the jackpot. It's hard to encourage her because she gets upset that (she thinks) I liked sex with someone else better, or I think about someone else while we're having sex.
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OK, let me get this straight - you cheated on her early in your relationship? Or was this going from woman to woman before you and she were together?

People don't get a free pass to cheat just because their marriage sucks.

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My wife has few hobbies, she threw them away when we had our first child. Between parenting, working and going through high school she didn't have time for anything else. I should encourage her to get back into them again or find new ones. All that she does for her "me time" it workout from home and go running. I don't want her to look back and have many regrets. Having our first child when she was a teenager affected her a lot more than me and she still carries some jealousy over that. That I was older and head in life, that I didn't miss out on things and had more time to do things than her (though I shouldn't have). She has done a great job at taking care of our kids, I want her to take care of herself as well.
If she's into working out, perhaps another great option is pole fitness classes. Not only will she get a bomb ass workout, it will help with her self confidence and work on her sexiness in a controlled setting with a group of like minded women. The pole fitness classes can also be sourced through groupon.
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Well, it does sound like you appreciate your wife's good qualities. That is good; you don't take her for granted.


If she is insecure about your past experiences and that you continued being sexually involved with others, even after you were with her; then I'd be doubly, triply careful about asking her to change into something that even remotely resembles the women you used to chase and date. I can't begin to describe how painful that is---to feel like your S.O. wishes you were something else.

Have you ever considered that her sweetness and au naturel style may have attracted you initially? It can be very common for us to be attracted to someone for a certain quality; then try to change it.

My husband has always been a very blunt, tactless person. It was incredibly fascinating to me when I first met him. And even though it was hurtful at times; his honesty was very refreshing.

But then I started to wish he wouldn't be as honest. It started to grate on me to always get the unvarnished truth. And I saw how he ticked other people off.

So, while encouraging him to be as honest as possible, I also caution him to watch out when and where he just blurts out the first thing that is on his mind.


Point of the comparison: encourage your wife to be *her* best self. Not a copycat of the ****tier women you used to date.

Silly example: if she likes sunflowers, buy her a cute casual dress with sunflower print. She might have a dressier style; but still have her own personality shining through.

Overall, I get the feeling that your wife needs tons of reassurance that you find her attractive enough. What a sweetie, I hope she's okay.

Start small. Get her a Bath and Body Works collection in a scent you know she likes. Small encouragements. From you to her because she deserves nice things; and you want to see her get pampered from time to time.

If she detects the slightest whiff of, "I don't like how you dress", or, "the way you act in bed can't hold a candle to Old Girlfriend"; then you are on the fast track to a low sex marriage.
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Do you take her out a lot? Like on dates? I never get dressed up because I have no reason to.

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Is there any way to encourage her? Or is this a suck it up and deal with it situation?
Have her blindfold you and just imagine her wearing extremely nice lingerie. Describe to her how she looks in the lingerie you are imagining and ask her to role play a little and pretend as if she is really wearing something crazy and sexy that you are not going to be allowed to actually see how she looks wearing it.

What this will do is allow her to see and feel how you will respond to the idea of her trying a little something different in a way that requires virtually no effort on her part. You can compliment how wonderful she look while playing this game as a way to boost her confidence to perhaps try it for real. The idea is that she blindfolds you again and then when she takes it off perhaps she is wearing something new and sexy for you in real life.

If she likes leggings, perhaps an easy place to start would be some sexy stockings and underwear! Buy these for her and encourage her to perhaps try them on while you are blindfolded!

Sometimes just "having fun" and not being so serious can help as well. So if you want her to wear makeup, you are going to have to show her exactly what looks sexy while you do her makeup blindfolded!



Let her do the same to you!

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I am not saying this to be a ****, I'd rather not say it but it's important for context. When we met she was literally just someone I wanted to hook up with and another notch. Things changed or I wouldn't be here and married to her, but she feels like I'm only with her because I knocked her up. She took care of our child and I kept screwing around, literally, until someone smacked some sense into me, also literally. From what she has said to me I gather that she feels like I'm not really into her regardless and never have been, not really attracted to her regardless. She watched me go from woman to woman in our younger days and many of them were the ones who dressed on the ****tier side. She is nothing like those women, and I'm GLAD that she isn't, but she doesn't see it that way. On her sexiest day she doesn't feel like she could live up to other women I have been with. That's something she has said.

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OK, let me get this straight - you cheated on her early in your relationship? Or was this going from woman to woman before you and she were together?



If we "go there", then the thread becomes much deeper than fashion style, or bedroom personas.

But it is kinda the elephant in the room.
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