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PHTlump, why are you in this thread? It was started by someone who was asking a legitimate question about squirting, looking for information from others who have experienced it.
I dont understand why you are here. Are you trying to upset people, or call us all liars, or just rain on our parade? Or are you trying to straighten us all out and give us the 'truth,' as you see it?
Or maybe you are just a troll.
I really dont get it. This was supposed to be a supportive, encouraging thread for the OP. Look at it now.
What is your purpose and intent for posting in this thread?
PHTlump, why are you in this thread? It was started by someone who was asking a legitimate question about squirting, looking for information from others who have experienced it.
It was started by a man who was asking about the difference between squirting and urinating. His wife felt like she might urinate. He was wondering if she was feeling something different, ala squirting. Another poster, who moderates a sex forum, immediately stated that she believed they were one and the same. And that's when the fun began.
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I dont understand why you are here. Are you trying to upset people, or call us all liars, or just rain on our parade? Or are you trying to straighten us all out and give us the 'truth,' as you see it?
I'm here to provide the truth. BTW, there is no 'truth', as I see it. There is only truth. Just because you would desperately like for something to be true, doesn't make it true. Sometimes truth is inconvenient. Sometimes it's ugly. Sometimes, it's tragic. But it isn't relative.
I'm interested to know why you're here. This thread was already full of posters insisting that, absent much evidence, female ejaculation was real. Did you just feel compelled to add your voice to the crowd? Are you a troll?
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I really dont get it. This was supposed to be a supportive, encouraging thread for the OP. Look at it now.
What is your purpose and intent for posting in this thread?
The OP's wife felt like she was going to urinate. It turns out, she was right.
If you want support, I have never denied it. I have stated, repeatedly, that if two people want to urinate during sex, that's just peachy with me. But, if someone asks a question about the difference between urinating and female ejaculation, I will give the truthful answer that there isn't much of a difference.
PHTlump, why are you in this thread? It was started by someone who was asking a legitimate question about squirting, looking for information from others who have experienced it.
I dont understand why you are here. Are you trying to upset people, or call us all liars, or just rain on our parade? Or are you trying to straighten us all out and give us the 'truth,' as you see it?
Or maybe you are just a troll.
I really dont get it. This was supposed to be a supportive, encouraging thread for the OP. Look at it now.
What is your purpose and intent for posting in this thread?
PHTLump is not a troll. He's offering his opinion, and typically has useful inputs on other threads. I don't agree with him on this one, however, but haven't had a chance to review the links he posted earlier. My thoughts, in absence of that, is that even the experts are uncertain of what's going on, and in the absence of any definitive proof, the fact that I've been soaked numerous times in the past year with no hint of a urine scent is proof enough for me to let myself enjoy it.
PHTLump is not a troll. He's offering his opinion, and typically has useful inputs on other threads. I don't agree with him on this one, however, but haven't had a chance to review the links he posted earlier. My thoughts, in absence of that, is that even the experts are uncertain of what's going on, and in the absence of any definitive proof, the fact that I've been soaked numerous times in the past year with no hint of a urine scent is proof enough for me to let myself enjoy it.
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I guess thats my concern here. With his insistence of his own brand of truth.... he could very well be discouraging others to try this. And in doing that... could be causing a lot of people to miss out on something very special and pleasurable.
He absolutely refuses to acknowledge that its possible he could be mistaken. He refuses to even consider that if he would just listen to the other folks here, he might learn something.
My problem being on a thread such as this where a person is asking for help, that why should/would someone come on and try to mess it up...If he believes this then keep it to himself...Start his own thread saying "I do not believe anyone squirts"...You know, shout it to the world...As for his saying he has no proof as well as the poster who said that there is no proof, look on the Internet...Maybe I should change my troll wording to a person so set in his ways....That facts of life mean nothing....That to many other people on this site they may think I am a "troll" looking for attention...I guess now I may expect him on my Female Ejaculation thread and take me on....If so, I am ready....Saying this, I concede to the above poster who says he is not a troll and now consider him a valued poster....Fortunately or unfortunately, he and I do not operate on the same wave lengths, but so goes life.....Take care...
Seeing I will probably be banned here for what I said, I take my leave...My best to all...
I guess thats my concern here. With his insistence of his own brand of truth.... he could very well be discouraging others to try this. And in doing that... could be causing a lot of people to miss out on something very special and pleasurable.
Again, I disagree. First of all, I reject the notion that truth is relative. If women have a reservoir for ejaculate, then they do. If not, they don't. It's just stupid to argue that, well maybe they do in your world, but don't in my world. They either do, or they don't.
However, I think your insistence that female ejaculating is such a great think is more harmful than my insistence on identifying what, exactly, it is. By arguing that it's this mystical experience, I think you're putting more pressure on women with regards to sex. If they're not ejaculating, then they're doing it wrong. And that's a harmful position to take.
I think women who don't want to ejaculate, or worry about ejaculating, should be told that they can still have a fulfilling sex life without it. And, that there's really no mysticism involved at all. It's just women relaxing enough to urinate during orgasm.
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He absolutely refuses to acknowledge that its possible he could be mistaken. He refuses to even consider that if he would just listen to the other folks here, he might learn something.
I will absolutely listen to contrary evidence. I simply have a higher standard of evidence than you do. I don't consider anecdotes from people who can't explain what female ejaculation is, but don't "feel" like it's urine, to be evidence. I consider MRIs to be evidence. I consider cadaver dissection to be evidence. I consider scientific studies that have been peer-reviewed and accepted by a consensus of medical professional to be evidence. I consider logic and physics to be evidence. If you can provide that kind of evidence, I'll certainly pay attention. If all you can do is talk about your 'truth' versus my 'truth', and other such nonsense, then I have no use for it.
My problem being on a thread such as this where a person is asking for help, that why should/would someone come on and try to mess it up...If he believes this then keep it to himself...Start his own thread saying "I do not believe anyone squirts"...You know, shout it to the world...
Have you even read the initial post in this thread? The OP wasn't asking about how great female ejaculation was. His wife said she needed to urinate and he thought there was a difference. That's why he asked about the difference between ejaculating and urinating.
Since the OP asked for information on ejaculating versus urinating, I responded in kind. I never said the practice was shameful, or harmful, or one to be avoided. I simply identified what was happening. I think what is shameful is your insistence that science, logic, physics, and anatomy have no place when discussing female sexuality.
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As for his saying he has no proof as well as the poster who said that there is no proof, look on the Internet...
Already done. Still waiting for that large reservoir of ejaculate to be identified. Feel free to provide a link identifying where, exactly, this pint of liquid comes from.
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I guess now I may expect him on my Female Ejaculation thread and take me on....If so, I am ready....Saying this, I concede to the above poster who says he is not a troll and now consider him a valued poster....Fortunately or unfortunately, he and I do not operate on the same wave lengths, but so goes life.....
I saw the first post in your thread. And I started to read it. I didn't respond for two reasons. First, because it was a wall of text without proper punctuation that I didn't feel like finishing. Second, because in the few paragraphs I did read, rather than a post asking for information or feedback, it seemed more of a religious testimonial. And I have no interest in arguing religion in this arena. In fact, I will support your religious "conversion", if you will. If urinating on your husband is the greatest thing you've ever experienced, then good for you. I'm honestly glad that you both enjoy it. I hope, when I am your age, that I am enjoying my sex life as much as you're enjoying yours. Not necessarily by urinating on my wife, or vice versa, but enjoying it nevertheless.
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Seeing I will probably be banned here for what I said, I take my leave...My best to all...
I wouldn't worry about it. I didn't see anything worthy of banning in your rant.
I am definitely not frustrated with our sex life, but I'm always trying to improve, and after reading and being here, I have a question that maybe someone can answer about squirting.
In another thread, I left no doubt how much I love giving my wife oral sex. However; she cannot orgasm passively. She has to take control to build herself the last part of the way to orgasm, and I've described how she does that. I actually love for her to do that, but she can't do that with oral sex.
However; when I perform oral sex on her, there are times when she will stop me, or move my attention to another part of her telling me I'm going to make her pee. I've never questioned that, but after reading a bit recently, I'm beginning to wonder if that may be her beginning to build to a squirting orgasm. She's never squirted before, so neither of us would know how to recognize that.
She's never told me it was unpleasant, so I don't know if she is just afraid of making a mess, or if it was unpleasant - I'll explore this question with her. I want to suggest to her that we move somewhere where she is not afraid of making a mess and just go with it and see what happens.
What do you think? Might she be building to a squirting orgasm? Or are there things that I could be doing to her that really just make her feel like she needs to pee?
Ok, to try to get this back on track... The original question was "Is she building to a squirting orgasm, or is he doing things to her that make her feel like she needs to pee?"
My response to that question is "Yes" to both. Yes, she's building to a squirting orgasm, and yes, you're doing things to her that make her feel like she needs to pee. The two are not mutually exclusive, and the feeling like she's going to pee is a common occurance for women prior to ejaculating (based on my experience, as a guy).
Having said all that, the studies that PHTLump posted, in particular the second one, seem to state that the fluid coming out comes from the bladder, and is a "altered form of urine", with "greatly reduced concentrations of urea and creatinine". However, their sample size is also very small (7 women), the person doing the study was not a medical doctor (Ed. D. = Doctor Of Education), and the website can't spell Chapter correctly (Page Title of "Chappter 7")...
In my mind, I'm still fine with being squirted on. I'll let my GF squirt anywhere she likes, and encourage it. It doesn't taste like pee, doesn't smell like pee, doesn't stain like pee... So I guess it's "altered" enough that it's "pee-like characteristics" are all gone, and to me, that makes it "not pee".
PHTLump, thanks for the articles. And ladies, thanks for the input. OP, I hope you had your question satisfactorily answered, in the midst of the thread-jacking.
I hope all the talk of pee or not pee has not dampened (no pun intended) shy_guy's wish for his wife to experience something awesome. SG If you can get her to relax and let go and not worry about the "make-up" of her reaction you will both have a pleasant surprise. Even if it is urine it is such an intense feeling she should be able to have the experience with no regrets and no embarrassment! Happy Adventures my friend!!
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I hope all the talk of pee or not pee has not dampened (no pun intended) shy_guy's wish for his wife to experience something awesome. SG If you can get her to relax and let go and not worry about the "make-up" of her reaction you will both have a pleasant surprise. Even if it is urine it is such an intense feeling she should be able to have the experience with no regrets and no embarrassment! Happy Adventures my friend!!
Not to worry. Nothing has been dampened yet literally nor figuratively (I don't mind a pun when it's good ). As I've stated elsewhere, I don't mind if it's pee even. If she enjoys it, then I will enjoy it. We will explore it further. Thank you to you, and to all the other posters in this thread. The shared experience, especially from those who gave insight on what it feels like, is what I most wanted when I posted this. All of you have given that.
First off...WOW to all that negative suff. Shyguy...good for you for getting her to that point!!! This is something that takes trust and security for some of us women to achieve. Yes it does happen and it sounds like that is what is going on. once she is comfortable with letting go (and knowing you are turned on by this will help) she will love the experience and you will as well!!! enjoy!!!!! Posted via Mobile Device
Have you even read the initial post in this thread? The OP wasn't asking about how great female ejaculation was. His wife said she needed to urinate and he thought there was a difference. That's why he asked about the difference between ejaculating and urinating.
Since the OP asked for information on ejaculating versus urinating, I responded in kind. I never said the practice was shameful, or harmful, or one to be avoided. I simply identified what was happening. I think what is shameful is your insistence that science, logic, physics, and anatomy have no place when discussing female sexuality.
Already done. Still waiting for that large reservoir of ejaculate to be identified. Feel free to provide a link identifying where, exactly, this pint of liquid comes from.
I saw the first post in your thread. And I started to read it. I didn't respond for two reasons. First, because it was a wall of text without proper punctuation that I didn't feel like finishing. Second, because in the few paragraphs I did read, rather than a post asking for information or feedback, it seemed more of a religious testimonial. And I have no interest in arguing religion in this arena. In fact, I will support your religious "conversion", if you will. If urinating on your husband is the greatest thing you've ever experienced, then good for you. I'm honestly glad that you both enjoy it. I hope, when I am your age, that I am enjoying my sex life as much as you're enjoying yours. Not necessarily by urinating on my wife, or vice versa, but enjoying it nevertheless.
I wouldn't worry about it. I didn't see anything worthy of banning in your rant.
I expected a reply from my statement, but this was harsher than I figured...I will not address anything that you have said........I ignored your first words to me on this thread, but then you just got too much for me...This last post to me did it....
As far as my thread on Female Ejaculation, I am pulling it...Words are not necessary why...You did a good job on that....
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). As I've stated elsewhere, I don't mind if it's pee even. If she enjoys it, then I will enjoy it. We will explore it further. Thank you to you, and to all the other posters in this thread. The shared experience, especially from those who gave insight on what it feels like, is what I most wanted when I posted this. All of you have given that.
