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Old 05-04-2012, 11:02 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Lots of us respond to pronouns.
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:09 PM   #63 (permalink)
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anyone else have to consult a grammar dictionary for the two posts above me?
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anyone else have to consult a grammar dictionary for the two posts above me?
Go go SAT vocabulary words!

That and 3 years of Latin at an impressionable age. Arg I can still hear myself going over "amo, amas, amat, amamus, amatis, amant" as a pre-teen.
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Go go SAT vocabulary words!

That and 3 years of Latin at an impressionable age. Arg I can still hear myself going over "amo, amas, amat, amamus, amatis, amant" as a pre-teen.

Or, "αγαπώ, αγαπας, αγαπα, αγαπαμε, αγαπατε, αγαπούν" in Ancient Greek if you are really a masochist....
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Go go SAT vocabulary words!

That and 3 years of Latin at an impressionable age. Arg I can still hear myself going over "amo, amas, amat, amamus, amatis, amant" as a pre-teen.
I've never taken Latin and my SAT's were 30 years ago. though I'm sure yours weren't yesterday so this is a lame excuse.

I sucked at math and science so had to totally pride myself on my one strength... grammar. "oh what have I become?" *hanging head in shame*
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I've never taken Latin and my SAT's were 30 years ago. though I'm sure yours weren't yesterday so this is a lame excuse.

I sucked at math and science so had to totally pride myself on my one strength... grammar. "oh what have I become?" *hanging head in shame*
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It wasn't something that she pointed out really although she did by how she reacted. I eventually noticed that she would respond negatively if I turned everything into a sexual advance. I still get turned on but just because I'm turned on doesn't mean I have to act on it. I like chocolate but I don't eat every chocolate bar I see (although I want to!). So i might hug her and just see how she reacts. Sometimes i know its on, sometimes its not. I just stopped assuming its always on.

It wasn't easy not because I was never exposed to affection as a child or anything like that (which is an odd leap to make), I was just very self-centered and had to realize that. My marriage slowly tanked over the years and after examining it I just saw where I wasn't doing what I needed to do. Making her feel like an object wasn't helping. That might sound like it happened over night but I spent alot of time reading forums and books on happy marriages. I even took some classes in family therapy. Eventually even saw a therapist (she wouldn't go but I needed to work on myself anyway). So it was a lot of work on me and the way I relate to the world in general. So basically your husband is being self-centered. I don't think you can force other people to change that because that kind of change has to come from within so I don't have any good advice to give. I mean, how do you tell someone who thinks their poo doesn't stink that it does?

EDIT: I have been away for a few days and just read your response to "unbelievable." I'm confused about your situation and while I don't know the whole story, if you're with someone who has acted very badly for a long time (3 years is a really long time to be treated badly) in the past it is rather unlikely that they would change quickly at all. It took me years of working on myself after I voluntarily began trying to improve myself and my marriage and I never did any of the things he appears to have done to you. I am not saying in any way that you deserve it. I just don't understand how it is that you think he will make such a drastic change in a short period of time. It takes twice as long to unlearn a behavior as it does to learn it. So if he learned for 3 years that he could abuse you I would expect it would take 6 for him to learn that he can't. The fact that you're even willing to try is really generous of you.

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You know? Communication is vital So I had a chat with him last night about this. He brought up some good points. But the main thing is he has given me full body hugs at least 3 times between last night and this morning, with no expectation of sex And the funny thing is I ended up getting turned on, I didn't act on it... I want to save it for tonight when we have more time together to relax, we've had enough quickies this week
Awesome news Communicating your needs does help Especially in a non charged environment, provided your spouse is willing to listen Glad yours was!!
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anyone else have to consult a grammar dictionary for the two posts above me?
Yes, lol.
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You know? Communication is vital So I had a chat with him last night about this. He brought up some good points. But the main thing is he has given me full body hugs at least 3 times between last night and this morning, with no expectation of sex And the funny thing is I ended up getting turned on, I didn't act on it... I want to save it for tonight when we have more time together to relax, we've had enough quickies this week
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Good for you. There's so much heartbreak on TAM. It's always encouraging when something turns for the better
Thanks. I have learned and continue to learn from the members of TAM... Honestly without this place, I would've never thought so deeply about my marriage and I would've more than likely set myself on auto pilot, but I want the most of my marriage, and that includes a healthy intimate relationship with my H. I chose to be a part of this reconciliation, I should at least enjoy it and do my best to put the heartache to rest

Thank you for your support.
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Thanks. I have learned and continue to learn from the members of TAM... Honestly without this place, I would've never thought so deeply about my marriage and I would've more than likely set myself on auto pilot, but I want the most of my marriage, and that includes a healthy intimate relationship with my H. I chose to be a part of this reconciliation, I should at least enjoy it and do my best to put the heartache to rest

Thank you for your support.
I know what you mean Cherry. This website and the folks here help me in little and big ways every day. I'm really grateful.
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