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Old 07-03-2012, 05:29 AM   #16 (permalink)
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This morning, while lying in bed, he told me "You're a good woman" (he will say this a few times per week. I told him in a soft voice that if I'm a good woman than please treat me like one.

He then asked me what I meant and I calmly said that if I'm a good woman to you then please treat me with respect. I was asked to elaborate as to when I haven't. I said twice this past week: 1) what went down Saturday night at that club and 2) the way you talk to me in front of other people (we were talking about remodeling our house with our son-in-law who is a carpenter. When I asked to have my own closet in the bedroom, Hubby (H) said when you clean up all of your clutter then we'll look at building a closet. I was hurt. I said: When you can come up with 48 hour days this can happen--(I work full-time and for him).

See my other post about wanting to be treated like his kids for background but basically I said there are some other things that made me feel disrespected; however, they go back 5 years (we discussed but never resolved in the past). He asked me what examples so I said 1) your daughter stole my wedding ring but you never made her apologize. 2) we needed a couch because our old one was shot, you took me shopping but when we found one you told me that we needed to be conservative with $ because we were trying to get a bldg loan yet 3 days later you book a cruise for that same daughter and your step daughter from your first marriage without a word to me. Your reason: you felt that your daughter needed her self-esteem boosted. 3) I asked you not to allow your son and his girlfriend (college aged) not to sleep together in our house during Summer break. What he does while at school is fine to me but in the house, I'm not trying to raise my kids that way. You said nothing and allowed it to happen. 4) You spent over $20K on a house for your daughter while having to borrow over $14K from me to pay past-due business taxes and inject capital because you were bouncing checks. This was money you didn't have and 5) last week I said my brake light was on in my car and the oil change was due (he owns a repair shop). He didn't say anything and didn't look up to even acknowledge me yet over the past two weeks I've heard him ask his step-daughter to give him a list of things that need to be done for his car. I asked him how would you think that would make me feel.

He denied planning the club thing Saturday night. States he was winging it and didn't think he found the place. I pushed back and said you had to have read something about it to seek it out and all I wanted to know was what to expect inside (was this a social event, would the expectation be that there was a sexual free-for all since it said swinger's club on the release). He said he would sell off his favorite car at rock-bottom price to pay me off, said he would keep his mouth shut and think about what he would say and that his step-daughter was going on a road trip and he always would check out a car for me if I was doing that and that I should have trusted him to know that the oil change could go for another 3000 miles and even though the brake light was on, unless they were scrubbing/grabbing, it wasn't urgent. I told him if he communicated that to me when I first asked, I would have not thought twice about it. I told him that it is how he acts with me versus his kids that when you look through my eyes, how you could see how I feel.

The only thing with him that was a deal breaker was how he is with his kids. I told him that he should be with his kids and all just treat me as good as he does them.
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Old 07-03-2012, 07:08 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but all signs point to your husband being a jerk. The stuff with his kids will never change and you're subsidizing it.

The stuff with the club is just disturbing.

I don't know what the answer is because if you leave you're just going to uproot the kids all over again. That's a hard situation. Good luck.
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:46 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I think it was a good idea to have a talk like that. The way that he treats you day to day was probably the most important thing to focus on. Bringing up the things from the past probably made him miss the point entirely. The way that he responded to those things would indicate that he didn't really get the message about day to day respect.

I would personally be a little bit leery of letting him sell off his favorite car to pay you back. You do deserve to be paid back, but that doesn't seem to be the point that you were trying to make. The offer is a sign that what he took away from that part of your conversation is that you're upset about money. While that may be true, your point was that you want to be treated like a first class part of the marriage. If he feels that selling his car to repay you is the right thing to do, assuming that he doesn't need it for basic transportation, that's one thing. If he feels like he needs to sell because you're mad, that will come back to bite you in the marriage.
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:25 AM   #19 (permalink)
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When we have discussions his response to something seems extreme like cutting your arm off to treat a hangnail. We own about 10 cars as he is in the repair bus but I told him not to sell this one because he likes it, it's unique and it's worth more than the offer
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:26 AM   #20 (permalink)
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He calked me at work an hour later to offer me $1200 so I can fly next week to see my daughter in England (study abroad)
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:39 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I may go but pay with my own $.
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:48 AM   #22 (permalink)
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He calked me at work an hour later to offer me $1200 so I can fly next week to see my daughter in England (study abroad)
Nice typo I'd "caulk" my wife at work if I could

The offer doesn't address the issue of respect, but it does make sense given that the conversation included an enumeration of past financial issues where you came second.

From what you've described, he is repeating a financial pattern of using money to try and fix relationship problems. On top of not addressing the real problem at hand and given what you've written it doesn't seem like he can really afford to spend his money this way.

My suggestion is that next time you have a chat about what it means to be treated with respect, you try to leave out discussions about how he spends his money. Not paying you back legitimate, because that is about respect, but even that can turn the conversation into one about money instead of respect.
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:59 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Agreed. I put the $ issue in the conversation to show that it was getting out of control. If he could really afford to spend the $20K that was one thing. But I'm his bookkeeper and so I see the impact. I wanted to show him it's okay to love the kids but at some point you have to say "I'd love to but can't afford it" the business owes me the $14K because I had to charge $6700 on my credit card to stop the bleed on his biz property tax lien, $1500 and $3000 to inject cash to prevent bounced checks and $2800 to purchase equipment. Soo I feel concerned personally and professionally as our house (in my name) is collateral for the business loans. I have even more skin in the game as I allowed myself to co-sign these loans.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:03 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Seriously...with all said, I would rather have a loving and respectful relationship without being bought.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:09 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I don't think he's "buying" you. I think he just doesn't understand how to manage his money, or how to address the issues that you brought up. His offer is probably his way of showing you that he wants to do something nice for you in light of what you talked about. He just doesn't understand that he can do that without money.

You have a number of issues between money and respect. IMHO your best approach is to try to find a way to address them separately.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:20 PM   #26 (permalink)
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As a man, do you feel he resents me because I can help out at times financially? He tells me he wants his acct reconciled daily to avoid surprises. I was raised by Deoression Era parents who were more than able to provide but as I put it ensured our needs were met and evaluated our "wants" carefully.
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As a man, do you feel he resents me because I can help out at times financially? He tells me he wants his acct reconciled daily to avoid surprises. I was raised by Deoression Era parents who were more than able to provide but as I put it ensured our needs were met and evaluated our "wants" carefully.
It's very difficult to go from what I think to what he thinks. Some men do, while others don't. He's the only one who can tell you if he resents it. Times are tough all over. He may be a person who thinks that he can put off some things until the economy turns around without realizing that he's creating trouble.

You can't change the way that he treats his kids. The best you can hope for is to help him learn how to manage his finances, and even then only if he wants to learn.

Your finances are intertwined, though.
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