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post #76 of 193 (permalink) Old 02-10-2013, 02:31 PM
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Re: Wife suddenly wants me to get circumcised...I think this is ridiculous

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Yep, because FGM is only practiced in a small portion of the world and condemned over most of the rest of it whereas mutilation of infant males is promoted all over the world.
Male circumcision is also practiced in a small portion of the world.

"Over 80% of the world's males are not circumcised. Though many people associate circumcision with Jews, most circumcised males are Muslims. The United States has the highest rate of non-religious circumcisions of male infants in the world (32.5%).


How Male Circumcision Harms Women

Over 140,000 Million women world wide have FGM.
What is FGM? | Desert Flower Foundation

You have ignored that fact that FGM is equivalent to cutting off a man’s dVck so that he cannot enjoy sex. That's quite a bit different than cutting off lose skin.

I'm not advocating for circumcision. I'm just arguing against the nonsense that FGM is equivalent to male circumcision.

I elected to not have my son circumcised. I viewed it as unnecessary.

And I sure as hell would never allow any girl in my care to get FGM.
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Re: Wife suddenly wants me to get circumcised...I think this is ridiculous

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Given the environment where most of the victims of FGM live, they probably won't even be willing to talk about such subjects. Most of the women do want their own daughters to receive the same treatment though because they don't think a man would find her attractive without having it done.

That does sort of sound familiar huh?

The affect depends on the level of FGM. It ranges from a ritual cut as practiced in oceana to severe destruction as practiced in North Africa. That means it can range from less severe than what is practiced here to far more devastating that robs a woman of any enjoyment.

The motive is very similar for both cases. You can talk about why it started - but why it continues is the same for both boys and girls being mutilated.
To be clear, I'm no fan of it for either sex and I don't think OP should consider it. Seems like nature gave us what we're supposed to have so I don't really buy the health reasons either. I do think it seems like a more important part is removed if a woman's trigger is gone. Maybe that's not common.

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Given the environment where most of the victims of FGM live, they probably won't even be willing to talk about such subjects. Most of the women do want their own daughters to receive the same treatment though because they don't think a man would find her attractive without having it done.

That does sort of sound familiar huh?



The affect depends on the level of FGM. It ranges from a ritual cut as practiced in oceana to severe destruction as practiced in North Africa. That means it can range from less severe than what is practiced here to far more devastating that robs a woman of any enjoyment.

The motive is very similar for both cases. You can talk about why it started - but why it continues is the same for both boys and girls being mutilated.
I am talking about the more sever form we call FGM.

Female circumcision only removes some skin, the hood around the clitoris. FGM is the more sever case in which they remove the external gentalia.

If you are going to take the argument that FGM does not matter because it's not done here or it's "only" done to some women in Africa and the Middle East, then don't expect a lot of women to give give a **** about if a male get circumcised.

To compare FGM to male circumsition makes me ill.
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If you are going to take the argument that FGM does not matter because it's not done here or it's "only" done to some women in Africa and the Middle East, then don't expect a lot of women to give give a **** about if a male get circumcised.
I turn that right back around: The fact that you don't seem to get upset about it happening to little boys here then why should I care about girls over there?

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To compare FGM to male circumsition makes me ill.
Good - because it should all make you ill.

Oh, let's not forget - you weren't mutilated either, so you're only talking about it in the abstract here. I'm talking about something I personally had happen to me. Perhaps that's why I take it personal?
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Re: Wife suddenly wants me to get circumcised...I think this is ridiculous

I am with EleGirl. FGM is NOT circumcision, it is truly mutilation. I am against all circumcision that is not medically necessary - to include religious reasons. In this country, we outlawed the most extreme portions of other religions (especially Santeria). So to continue to allow this for religious reasons is also absurd. The operation should be outlawed, unless medically necessary - and in most cases it isn't.
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Re: Wife suddenly wants me to get circumcised...I think this is ridiculous

In many cases the effects of circumcision for males don't reveal themselves until much later in life. As men live past fifty, the flip side becomes apparent when the feeling leaves during intercourse and that which used to take work to keep from happening in five minutes or less, then takes as much as an hour to happen and in some cases never happens for men.
The disadvantage then becomes that his partner may have reached an age where they don't want to be doing it, anyway so it becomes one more reasion for denial.
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Blame me.... and the fact that I am biased toward my husband's penis.... I think that's what derailed it in the first place.

However, I will reiterate: Jack, if you have no medical reason, no problems with your penis, then do not do it just to make her happy... IF, in fact, she was even serious about it. I have my doubts about that. I truly suspect she threw out an outlandish request, merely as payback for the anal request (badgering)... OH! here's a thought! Draw up a contract! Tell her that you will get circumcised, if she will consent to anal. AND, get it notarized. Legal document, neither can back out....

(no, people, I don't mean that. I was being sarcastic)

Jack, don't get it done. Yes, I have stated my preference. But I will also state that I would not... I repeat WOULD NOT ask a man to get circumcised just to make me happy.

Now, some have stated that I am shallow because, as RD pointed out, I have *spousal bias*. I have zero intention of having sex with any man other than my husband, for the rest of my life. So, really, my preferences are moot. My preferences are related to the man in my bed...the man I married...who happens to be circumcised.

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I don't know if many circumsized men are complaining =/

I wonder if there are folks here on this forum who went through adult circumcision and can tell the difference between cut/uncut and whether the 20,000 nerve endings include the pleasure centers.
I am another one. How many do you need?

Are you serious about the nerve endings including pleasure centers? Maybe I don't quite understand what you mean by pleasure center. I am quite certain those nerve endings include "pain centers". Having been denied those nerve endings against my will I never be able decide for myself if those nerve endings provide pleasure. There are however many millions of men who will state they feel pleasure from those nerve endings.

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Blame me.... and the fact that I am biased toward my husband's penis.... I think that's what derailed it in the first place.

However, I will reiterate: Jack, if you have no medical reason, no problems with your penis, then do not do it just to make her happy... IF, in fact, she was even serious about it. I have my doubts about that. I truly suspect she threw out an outlandish request, merely as payback for the anal request (badgering)... OH! here's a thought! Draw up a contract! Tell her that you will get circumcised, if she will consent to anal. AND, get it notarized. Legal document, neither can back out....

(no, people, I don't mean that. I was being sarcastic)

Jack, don't get it done. Yes, I have stated my preference. But I will also state that I would not... I repeat WOULD NOT ask a man to get circumcised just to make me happy.

Now, some have stated that I am shallow because, as RD pointed out, I have *spousal bias*. I have zero intention of having sex with any man other than my husband, for the rest of my life. So, really, my preferences are moot. My preferences are related to the man in my bed...the man I married...who happens to be circumcised.

Personally, I love the look of my circumcised husband, and I would never get involved with a man who is not circumcised.


The bolded line from a previous post in this thread is what I believe has ruffled some feathers. Of course you would never ask a man to get circumcised to make you happy. How could you? Who would you ask, the pizza delivery guy? You would never be involved with a man who is not circumcised. You would never have married your husband unless he was circumcised.

If a man were to make such a statement such as "I would never get involved with a women who is not/does not have/does not do xyz," many would accuse him of being shallow. You may not be one of those. I hope you are not. That would make you a hypocrite, and I am certain that is not the case.

Clearly "female circumcision or FGM" as it is understood is more severe than MGM. Does that make it OK ?

MGM is not benign.
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Just curious "Jack" there are posts referring to you previously wanting anal sex with spouse and it no going over well. My husband is uncircumsized also and anal sex was quite frankly..oww..oww.. and double oww at first. He is large to start with and longer than most...that extra skin makes him even thicker. Extra lube and take slow at first and now it is very enjoyable.

I would recommend you sit down with her and dicuss both issues. If ypu are not comfortable with getting cut tell her. Ask her why she would ask and that it offended you. Comunication...communication.
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I'm still awaiting OP's response in regards to the cheese.
I actually make a pretty good effort to wash down there.Even more so in the last couples of years when I read an article saying uncircumcised men have to make more of an effort to keep that area clean.
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If a man were to make such a statement such as "I would never get involved with a women who is not/does not have/does not do xyz," many would accuse him of being shallow. You may not be one of those. I hope you are not. That would make you a hypocrite, and I am certain that is not the case.
You are correct. If a man doesn't want a woman with large breasts... don't get involved with a woman with large breasts. If a man doesn't want a woman with tiny breasts...don't get involved with a woman with tiny breasts. My husband was born and raised Jewish. I knew of the bris they had on the 8th day, even before we married. And, when he and I met, people weren't all up in arms over male circumcision like so many are now. Maybe had he not been circumcised, I might be saying differently. I really don't know. I never saw uncircumcised until after we married, and doing searches because of the controversy over it. Seeing the difference... I prefer how my husband's looks. But faulting a man if he prefers one breast size over another? Or something similar? No, I don't. Personal preference is just that...personal preference.

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Have you asked her why?

Do you wash underneath the skin and rid of all the '****-cheese' and sh-t lol
Cause that's normally when MY wife suggests circumsicion (or more of a "clean it up or get circumsized! Don't gross me out again" kinda thing)
I have a friend who has a male horse who is a gelding. Apparently due to them having being gelded, they need help with cleaning of their equine male member. By hand.

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I don't think she really cares whether or not you are circumcised.

She just wants to make you hurt there.

Why? Because you wanted anal sex. She equates anal sex with pain and going past her sexual boundaries.

So she thinks this is suitable punishment.
I wouldn't say so..Yes I was pissed off about the lack of anal sex.But I don't think she would try to "retaliate" in this way.
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I wouldn't say so..Yes I was pissed off about the lack of anal sex.But I don't think she would try to "retaliate" in this way.
I think you are being mean, Jack. I think you should acquiesce to her perfectly reasonable request that you be circumcised. Just so long as she agrees to a female circumcision at the same time!

Unless there's an issue of hygiene or some physical problem your being uncircumcised causes her?

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