hubby

I am curious as to what are your own definitions of Pornography...where do you draw the line between romantic/fantasy love making and pornography:

Does your definition of pornography include:
-romantic or erotic novels
-mature love scenes without nudity (e.g. unfaithful)
-scenes with light nudity (e.g. boobs, butt)
-scenes with heavier nudity (e.g. cinemax late night)
-scenes with full frontal but no penetration
-scenes with penetration but vanilla sex
-scenes with penetration non vanilla (kinky, fetish, bdsm, etc)

Also, where do you personally draw the line for yourself and/or your spouse? It could be at some progression of sexuality listed above, it could be frequency of use, or ultimately the point where it is an addiction and/or replaces real life sex with your partner.

For me, I would define pornography as any graphical depiction of sexual activity. That would be your typical graphic novel and flics with penetration (vanilla or otherwise). I personally do not have any boundaries or would place any boundaries on my wife. Well, I do have boundaries when it comes to child pornography or any real non-consensual violence/sex.

Star

I think that there is a very clear line from romantic love making to porn, porn for me is very much close up and in ya face, all about shock tatics, graphic scenes of adults doing any sexual act you can possibly think of where romantic love making is just that, romantic, softer and not really done to shock and turn you on but this can still be erotic as you don't nessessarily need the over the top screaming and deep lustful looks into the camera for it to be erotic and stimulating

hubby

OK, then where is that clear line? Use some of the examples I gave above or your own from actual flics. Pick two scenes that are very similar but one just crosses the line. Would you consider the late night shows on Showtime/Cinemax/Movie Channel porn? If not, how about softcore where you see full frontal but it is not as much over the top explicit nature? Is it more about the "acting" than what body parts are shown?

Star

I think the line from soft romantic love making to porn is where the camera gets right up close to the action that is going on, cum shots, full frontal erect male nudity.

Star

scenes with penetration non vanilla (kinky, fetish, bdsm, etc)

hubby

Cool. I am right there with you on where I think the line is.

OK, now what about your boundaries. Are you fine with watching porn yourself? Say you were not OK with it, or there is a point in the action that is just too much for you and does not turn you on, would you ask your other half to not watch that?

Also, what do you think about in your face literary erotica. I know there is a lot out there that is just as graphic, if not more so, than what you see on the tube. Would you describe that as pornography as well?

hubby

I will admit, the moans and the f**k me baby looks are probably the best part of porn for the guys. I could really care less how natural or fake their bodies are, it is the raw, animalistic enthusiasm and feeling that she is so overcome with pleasure by what the guy is doing to her that she cannot control herself. I will admit that this is totally fake and I don't think there is any man alive who can make a woman do what the ladies in porn do, but that does not stop it from being such a turn on.

I am one who thinks that a little bit of "faking it" in the bedroom is good and goes a long way. I am not talking about faking an orgasm but I am talking about putting on a little bit of a performance. Isn't sex...and life in general... somewhat of a performance?

So you like to read. Would you call that porn?


P.S....Star, I am starting to feel like we are taking over this board. I am ready for the admins to put a restriction on us. I think it is fun I get a little insight along the way here. Plus, my poor wife has a hangover from last night and is taking a long batch while I watch the kids and type away so I do not feel too bad.

hubby

What is the difference between a strip tease or a BJ and say a "You are a f**king love god, give it to me harder" look while you are having sex? Is a strip tease/BJ not a performance?

Star

I love to read!!! gots lots of books and they are just as effective as turning you on and getting you going as film does, I have been know to get off on reading a sexy story.

Taking over the forum? Lol, I just think that there are not that many people online at the moment or maybe some people prefer to "look in" rather than take part, beleive it or not I was looking around this forum for a while before I first posted!!

I think it is very interesting to hear a mans point of view on things as my hubs cannot talk about sex all that easily which frustrates the hell out of me!!

Star

I would say a strip was a "performace" but not a BJ as this is something that I naturally always do when we have sex, it's not a perfomance for me really.

hubby

OK, so is it porn? Come on, I want to hear one woman call erotica porn. In my eyes they are one in the same, but the most, if not all, of the ladies will not admit it.

Star

I don't think I would call it porn, as when I think of porn, I think of xx rated films and not books so for me porn=pictures and not a story book.

Star

Ok it's GRAPHIC but.... not PORNOgraphic

hubby

So I was curious how Webster defines pornography:

Main Entry: por·nog·ra·phy
Pronunciation: \-fē\
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek pornographos, adjective, writing about prostitutes, from pornē prostitute + graphein to write; akin to Greek pernanai to sell, poros journey — more at fare, carve
Date: 1858
1 : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
2 : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement
3 : the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction <the pornography of violence>

Now that I think about it, pornography has been around for centuries but the television and camera have not been around that long. Also, the literal root of the word is porno: prostitute and graphic: written.

But then again, I am not asking this question to get the "official" definition, I want to know individuals own interpretation.

Star

Ok so I'm busted.............., maybe erotic fiction is porn then if what above is deemed to be true