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I am interested in working for the VA when I am done with grad school. I told a friend in the military about this and she immediately began saying how 'civilians' just don't understand the military and I probably shouldn't bother working there. I understand there is such a thing as 'military culture' that civilians may lack knowledge in and am planning to learn more about before I even apply. Couldn't this be said of many professions? What about the Bureau of Indian Affairs? I am never going to fully understand what Native Americans go through but that doesn't mean I can't learn about them and be of some sort of use to them. My friend has been in the military for about five years but she has never been deployed or even been stationed outside the United States. She basically has a clerical job at a recruiting station. What do other people think about this and where could I learn more about it, without actually joining the military?

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Why do you specifically want to work at the VA?
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Why do you specifically want to work at the VA?
I have a strong interest in trauma therapy and PTSD.
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Your friend is an a55

Look up veterans centers in your area it's like a nursing home for vets stop by talk to the staff maybe you can read a book an hour or two a week, get an amazon prime book membership and get unlimited books a month

Our scout troop does take a vet fishing day every year the guys love it some of them dont have alot of family so just showing up means something to them they love to talk and bs. Some of these guys would be or have been homeless and have had some hard times

If you got a vacation coming up and like horses or have experience riding horses maybe you can volunteer with horses for heroes in New Mexico Horses For Heroes

Or look for something different Top Veterans Nonprofits and Charities | GreatNonprofits

The biggest thing most of these places need besides money is volunteers it's easy to write a check but hard to show up

And good luck with the VA they need people that care and will do the right thing
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Go for it. If you want to help do it. You will learn what is needed from the ones that have been there for a while. Our family doctor left his practice and started working at the local VA about 8 years ago.
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Our military have gone though more than they should have, it requires a compassionate nation to make right the troubles that come from poor political decisions and repeated deployments that eat our service members without thought.

You can make a difference in many lives... godspeed.
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What was most different for any of you when you came out of the military?
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Bueller.....Bueller????
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What was most different for any of you when you came out of the military?
I am sure it is different for all... for me it was learning to deal with a much more loose routine that made up civilian life.

From a military perspective civilians are more... fluid. Life as a civilian is much more open-ended... an interesting transition for any service member with 10+ years.

What people fear in civilian life surprised me as well. I guess unless you live in Chicago, Detroit, or DC (homeland battle fronts by the statistics), most fears aren't tangible and on the surface appear a little, well, non-relatable, but that may be generational as well.
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For me life just moved slower, easy going and that tried my patience

I did not like people that half a55ed things or life and was really judgemental and was quick to think of people as sh*t bags

I have been out for 12 years now and I had to relearn not to sweat the small stuff and to pick battles

like a few weeks ago I had to square away a coworker about an memoral day sale ad that was displaying the flag backwards and told him it was an US flag with a hard on he goes cross eyed and I have to explain it to him that it was a charging flag not a flag at ease and told that you can tell by the flag patches that our troops have if they are going to a combat zone or not



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My boyfriend is retired Air Force. He seems most bothered by the apparent sense of entitlement, lack of basic manners, lack of respect for self and others, and refusal to accept personal responsibility for actions that seems to him to be prevalent in civilian society.

Oh, and hipsters kinda chap his @ss....
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Took a break from cutting ivy and got the mail, I just received my Gulf War Newsletter (Winter 2016) today and see that 52% of deployed study participants screened positive for at least one mental health condition (PTSD, major depressive, or other anxiety).



That's a problem with a well-trained combat arms MOS, all wound up and no way to release it healthily far too often.



If the VA only had a quality nation-wide mental health division.



My first counselor was also a trained Psychiatrist, tried to shove prescription after prescription at me... reduce those guys and hire 3 Counselors per Psych for the same money and you will treat the symptom, not hide it behind drugs. I refused 3 different prescriptions, then refused the counselor and found one on my own dime years later when I was really struggling.



The counselor that helped me find my peace the most was trained in eastern philosophy... hence the Buddhism.



I have come from using a hammer to solve my challenges to being a "velvet hammer", my words are soft but when I hit, the strike is solid and commands better attention to people not accustomed to military directive. I train my junior admins in this to this day.



You need more people like counselor this helping our soldiers.



In the US Army, we used a phrase "chicken$hit" to describe an order, regulation, or task that was so ridiculous that when given the freedom to accomplish the mission without it, we modified it into something reasonable and drove on. In civilian life, chicken$hit came by the dump truck loads, learning to bullfight the volume of chicken$hit and never let it hit should have been a required day's training in ETS out-processing.

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My husband put in 30 years as an officer. Granted, the culture and way of life is different, but your friend sounds like a total a$$. She hasn't been downrange, she hasn't experienced the "fog of war," nor has she had any real experience in what it means to serve.

The VA can be good or bad. The VA hospital in Phoenix was so bad a full scale investigation occurred. The veterans were receiving substandard care. The VA hospital in Tucson is quite good. My husband benefitted greatly from PTSD group counseling sessions, one-on-one sessions, and medical care.

Go for it.

I refuse to make anyone a priority in my life who considers me nothing more than an option.

You can't start the next chapter of your life if you keep re-reading the last one.
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I would recommend checking out the Veterans Writing Project:

http://www.npr.org/2012/11/12/164979...cope-after-war

A friend of mine is the founder a director, and he's a vet who suffered (suffers?) from PTSD. He's written a book about his service and the aftereffects of his PTSD. (I haven't read it yet, but I have my copy and plan on reading it soon.)

I would also recommend reading Plenty of Time When We Get Home (https://www.amazon.com/Plenty-Time-W.../dp/0393239365) for an excellent insider's view on vet PTSD. (The author has another book/memoir on her time serving, as well.) I HAVE read both her books, and I found them to be very eye-opening.

If you want to know what it has been like for people who have served, both while they were deployed and transitioning back into civilian life, there are a lot of great books out there.

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