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post #16 of 26 (permalink) Old 01-17-2017, 12:21 PM
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That company will have second thoughts the exact moment that its principals know that they are fixing to go belly up!


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There may be other options too like google docs & goggle drive. Your files are in google’s cloud to be shared with you coworkers as needed. Microsoft office 365 can do the same.

I’m a system admin for 3 k12 school districts. One of them is all google now. chromebooks are about 200-400 each depending on options.

The kicker is these services are free/cheep for schools.

You could use your personal google drive, one drive or dropbox for your own backup needs; Check to make sure your not violating some policy 1st.

That data is the life blood of any organization.

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I totally agree. The owners attitude is very hard for me to understand. He isn't even willing to spend $1800, the cheapest quote I got, which is just a band aid solution at this point. Much less the $8000 for what we REALLY need.
then if i were you Hope, i would seriously think about leaving the company they are just sitting ducks for either a major failure or a major cyber breach.

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Sigh. Ya, I think it's time to find somewhere else to work. I've gotten three quotes from professionals and all the owner does is take them to his son who then says he's wasting his money. And frankly, I don't get paid NEARLY enough to bother taking any more initiative on this, or to start saving my own files or something.

Thanks for all the input and knowledge. I do like to check sometimes and make sure that my opinion is correct
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Isn't 5K dollars equivalent to like 500K Canadian? I can see what he means. It is expensive...

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Isn't 5K dollars equivalent to like 500K Canadian? I can see what he means. It is expensive...
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I've got 8 workstations plus 1 nondedicated server running my office.

I've upgraded them over the past 20 years as needed, but I always get pc's that are a couple of years old at deeply discounted prices.

Right now I'm running Windows 10 pro with Dell Optiplex 960's with I5 processers and 4-8 GB ram on most stations at an average cost per computer of about $200.

At that rate you could configure a 5 pc network including a nondedicated server for about $1000.

My monthy cost is zero.

But you need to know what you're doing.
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But you need to know what you're doing.
We need to pay someone who knows what they're doing - hence my questions about the cost
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We need to pay someone who knows what they're doing - hence my questions about the cost
Its really not that difficult. I have no formal IT training and I manage just fine. Installing Windows 10 pro is a child's game and networking isn't nearly as tricky as it used to be. Even printing issues that used to be a nightmare just don't seem to happen anymore. Better technology, better software has eliminated most of the problems. Some of us can remember the days of configuring mainboards and add-in cards with jumpers or switches to configure IRQs and DMAs so all the hardware can play nice. Now it's all plug and pray. I mean plug and play. Just have someone on standby in case things go south.
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Sigh. Ya, I think it's time to find somewhere else to work. I've gotten three quotes from professionals and all the owner does is take them to his son who then says he's wasting his money. And frankly, I don't get paid NEARLY enough to bother taking any more initiative on this, or to start saving my own files or something.
If the owner does not care enough to secure his network and backup his files, then there is little reason for you to take on that job especially if you aren't receiving any compensation for it. So the son says its a waste of money? It will cost a lot more if all his accounting data, files, are lost in a computer crash or if the computers are hacked. I'm assuming that the office has just basic internet access, with just a bunch of computers hooked up to a router which is hooked up to a cable modem like a home network.

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My boss (the owner) refuses to spend ANY money on IT. His son, who is rarely available, does it. He's in uni becoming a computer something and really doesn't know much about servers and networks. I took the initiative to get some quotes on installation of a proper network and server etc. and was told this morning there's no money for it. So I am just curious, for those who work in small offices or in IT, what's a reasonable set up and monthly cost for a server and 5 worsktations? I am just curious if I am way out to lunch or if my boss is.
There are companies that come in once a month and just maintain stuff. They are on calls for emergencies and stuff. Have you looked into that kind of thing?
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