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I have been there as well. The one job I had worked for 11 years. I worked all kinds of hours and went above what I was trained to do. I held three positions in the company. I was dropped at the curb like a rubbish bin. The did give me two weeks severance. How generous!

As it set in while sitting at my computer looking it got depressing. I felt like no matter how hard I worked it just did not matter. The odd hours and going above and beyond it just did not matter. Yes, sir there was many a day I would rather sit on the couch. But...with mouths to feed and mortgage to pay I had to keep on getting up! So I landed a night time job. It sucked but it brought home some money. Within three months this place downsized. I was back in the same boat again. Double whammy!

I kept looking and found the current job I'm in now. I have been at this job 13 years.
Good job! Moral of this story, don't give up!


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Well, one thing is for sure. I'll not be content again in another job. I'll work there as long as it suits my needs. I'll always be looking for something better for me "#1" Its taken some hard knocks to realize you don't mean crap no matter how much they tell you are "irreplaceable" The company closed its doors but, I'm still always gonna be on the lookout.
Your not alone my man. I get this 11 year itch with I don't want to work were I am any longer. Specifically when there is not movement up. But reality sets in and screws that up. At this juncture I hoping to ride out my current job to 62 at the least. 65 at the most. And yeah, there is a line of replacements. There is not company loyalty any longer. That went out with the gold watch at retirement.

I'm at the point were I would like to work at a garden center with little to no responsibility other than watering the foliage.

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Wow we face exactly the same thing. They won't make me an associate director either and I bust my ass everyday I'm here. Used to have a real ******* for a boss. They fired him, passed me over and gave a double promotion to a young woman with much less experience. She doesn't care about anyone else's career except her own. She's careful not to give me any assignment that will show my abilities. I've gotten to be point I just don't care anymore, and have launched a full scale job search. The economy here is so bad that there just isn't any jobs so it's going to take awhile.
I should have launched a full scale job search a year ago. It's going to be tough here over the next 4 years, what with Trump freezing entire divisions of government, the House reinstating the Holman rule, and whatever other cuts are yet to come. A lot of people who were working for the government will find themselves looking for work.

I also have no idea what I want to do, which is why I'm dragging my feet a bit. Those two books I recommended to the OP? They were recently [highly] recommended to me, and I need to read them myself.

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I'm at the point were I would like to work at a garden center with little to no responsibility other than watering the foliage.
I have these thoughts to. Last month I was running through the airport on the way to another business trip, heavy bag over my shoulder filled with computers and regulatory books with a million thoughts running through my mind about things that were due the next couple of days and all the things I had to do when I got to my destination. Just then, I nearly ran over an airport worker leisurely moving some q-line markers to another area on the floor. I said to myself "Damn, I wish I had his job".

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I have these thoughts to. Last month I was running through the airport on the way to another business trip, heavy bag over my shoulder filled with computers and regulatory books with a million thoughts running through my mind about things that were due the next couple of days and all the things I had to do when I got to my destination. Just then, I nearly ran over an airport worker leisurely moving some q-line markers to another area on the floor. I said to myself "Damn, I wish I had his job".
I want to work in a bookstore. I love books and talking to people about books.

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Yes, is there a reason not to?
As others have said, you need to tweak your resume for each job you apply for. Work in the same terms that are used by the employer on the job posting.

Just about every company and site that provides online-resume posting uses an Applicant Tracking System (ATS). The ATS searches through all of the submitted resumes and rakes them based on keywords. Employers are looking for the same keywords they used in the job posting.

It can be tricky to include the keywords and not sound like you just copied the job posting, but you have to use the same jargon/words.

Now if you hand the resume to some small mom/pop shop you probably don't have to do this because they are not likely to use an ATS. They just read your hard copy.

Here a link to a very good book on resume writing in today's job hunting environment. It's actually like a workshop that walks you through the process. The author has a very good website as well that gives you a lot of tips.

The Resume Writing Guide: A Step-by-Step Workbook for Writing a Winning Resume

Do you have a Linked in profile as well? It would really help you to have one. There are some very good, and not expensive books, on how to write a good LinkedIn profile. I highly recommend that you look into that as well. Find out how to use LinkedIn for your job search. It really is good. Start building your LinkedIn community, it's a good way to network these days.

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I have a degree in communications but I have been doing the job of an accountant fulltime for 25 years.
Is there any way that you can transfer your college credits and go for an actual accounting degree? You have book keeping experience, so that should help you, as well as getting a student loan. I'm graduating in March with a degree in accounting, but I put my resume out a few months ago and the job offers and phone calls from recruiters have been constant. If you can get an actual degree, you would be more marketable.

BTW, you're the same age as my younger brother.
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I've seen both sides of hiring and its not pretty.

When I was trying to hire someone, it was really difficult. With services like "monster" a job I'd post would get literally hundreds of applicants for a fairly specialized engineering position. Everyone knew to tailor their applications to match the job requirements. Then I'd interview and discover that they knew nothing.

This job required FPGA programming experience, it was a big part of the job and its a very difficult skill. I got a guy who listed experience but when I interviewed him it developed that he had heard about FPGAs, but never actually seen or worked with one.

The problem is that each interview takes real time -and generally someone who is hiring is doing so because they already need help.

It can fail badly too. Someone else in my organization did hire someone who it turned out was completely unqualified, but its really difficult to fire people. Also the person they hired immigrated to the US with her young child. She is totally screwed if she gets fired. She is trying, she just doesn't have the necessary ability.


On the other side I've been casually looking for a new job - my field is slowly dwindling. The problem is that I'm too old. That means that I'm expensive because I fairly high level in my current job, but employers assume that I won't want a low paying low level job. But they can't really trust that I'm any good.


I'm just writing this to give the OP another view on what things look like. I don't have useful suggestions.
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Is there any way that you can transfer your college credits and go for an actual accounting degree? You have book keeping experience, so that should help you, as well as getting a student loan. I'm graduating in March with a degree in accounting, but I put my resume out a few months ago and the job offers and phone calls from recruiters have been constant. If you can get an actual degree, you would be more marketable.

BTW, you're the same age as my younger brother.
I could go to school for accounting. The school i graduated from is only 15 miles from me. I'm not sure I want to continue in the accounting field. After 25 years of this i really want to express my creativity. Mt original degree was leading me into an advertising venture. I would be so much more happy in that kind of work. I think I'll have to sacrifice pay for happiness.

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On the other side I've been casually looking for a new job - my field is slowly dwindling. The problem is that I'm too old. That means that I'm expensive because I fairly high level in my current job, but employers assume that I won't want a low paying low level job. But they can't really trust that I'm any good.


I'm just writing this to give the OP another view on what things look like. I don't have useful suggestions.
I'm seeing this to, experience is something an employer doesn't necessarily want anymore. They want experience but for low pay so they're hiring younger, less experienced people for higher level jobs. Consequently, in my job search I'm having a really tough time. Recruiters are actually telling me to "dumb down" my resume. This is causing me alot of anxiety as I can't afford to retire yet and I would like to get to the next level before I do. I'm not even sure if I'll be able to be employed much longer.


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I do see the problem.
If I'm hiring a high level person in my own field, I probably know someone who knows them and I can get an independent opinion.

If it is someone from outside, I could end up putting someone in charge of a major project who is not able to do the work - despite a great resume and interview. In that case the damage can go far beyond the cost of their salary.

I think this applies at all levels. Older people usually have jobs with more responsibility, and the consequences of them failing to do those jobs are higher.



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I'm seeing this to, experience is something an employer doesn't necessarily want anymore. They want experience but for low pay so they're hiring younger, less experienced people for higher level jobs. Consequently, in my job search I'm having a really tough time. Recruiters are actually telling me to "dumb down" my resume. This is causing me alot of anxiety as I can't afford to retire yet and I would like to get to the next level before I do. I'm not even sure if I'll be able to be employed much longer.
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