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Please, help. I have been a bookkeeper/office manager for 25 years. My job was something I took for granted, and I felt it would always be there. Today the company I worked for is out of business. I've been unemployed for 6 months now and its killing me. I don't know what to. I have applied to over 100 places around me for any number of job types. I've had a few interviews but nothing. I don't want to resort to flipping burgers but that might be my only hope.

I think i deserve a job with decent pay. I don't want an entry level job, but I have been looking at those positions now.

Am I too old and people don't want me?

Maybe they don't like fat people.

I think I have good resume, but I've been out of the loop for so long I don't know.

Working from home would be good, but most of the people that have contacted me are scammers.

Help, PLEASE

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Please, help. I have been a bookkeeper/office manager for 25 years. My job was something I took for granted, and I felt it would always be there. Today the company I worked for is out of business. I've been unemployed for 6 months now and its killing me. I don't know what to. I have applied to over 100 places around me for any number of job types. I've had a few interviews but nothing. I don't want to resort to flipping burgers but that might be my only hope.

I think i deserve a job with decent pay. I don't want an entry level job, but I have been looking at those positions now.

Am I too old and people don't want me?

Maybe they don't like fat people.

I think I have good resume, but I've been out of the loop for so long I don't know.

Working from home would be good, but most of the people that have contacted me are scammers.

Help, PLEASE
Deserving does not come into it.

Where are you based? What industry? Are you prepared to move and what age are you?
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I recommend: What Color is Your Parachute?

If you've been in the same job for 25 years, the job hunt process as changed a lot since then. This book may help.

If you want to try something else, but don't know what, try What Should I Do With My Life?

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Where are you searching for jobs online? Some sites cover all jobs. Other job sites are job specific. Consider a career change?

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Deserving does not come into it.

Where are you based? What industry? Are you prepared to move and what age are you?
I said "I think" I deserve.... It's how I feel.
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I recommend: What Color is Your Parachute?

If you've been in the same job for 25 years, the job hunt process as changed a lot since then. This book may help.

If you want to try something else, but don't know what, try What Should I Do With My Life?
Thank you I will look into that book and the amazon link too. I appreciate it.
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Where are you searching for jobs online? Some sites cover all jobs. Other job sites are job specific. Consider a career change?
Well to answer your question and the others... I am 48 and live in Western Penn. I have been in the lumber industry, manufacturing. I have had a side business as a studio photographer for about 10 years. I have used indeed.com and look into the federal job agency website. I would like to stay where I am, but moving is not out of the question. The cost of living is low here, but its about a 1 hour drive to pittsburgh which I have considered. I have a degree in communications but I have been doing the job of an accountant fulltime for 25 years. I'd like to work in marketing but those jobs are hard to come by unless its $12/hour grunt job. I just can't afford to do that. Get back into photography is out of the question. I can't deal with clients again. I am completely been put off by non paying, irrational people. Product photography would be ideal, but there again this is not the area for that kind of work.
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Well, in the short term, your bookkeeping skills could come in handy. Tax preparers, like H&R Block, are always looking for seasonal help this time of year.

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Like you, I've been in one job for many years. Next year, however, my son graduates from high school and the need for a high degree of flexibility and very short commute time will be considerably lessened. At that point, I will be free to pursue opportunities elsewhere. So I'll be joining the job market myself soon.

Yes, being older and having been in one place for a very long time may be seen as negatives to potential employers. There might be a fear that you're too set in your ways to fit into a new corporate culture, that you're behind the times on the latest office applications and methods, or that someone with your years of experience is going to expect more money than they want to pay for the position they have open. To combat those issues, you're going to need to up your game.

You don't need your resume to be good, you need it to be outstanding. It might be worth it to have a hiring professional take a look at it and give you some feedback. The same goes for interviewing, in that you need to be in top form and it might be wise to get some outside help polishing those skills. Taking a course down at the local community college, or even online, might be useful in figuring out how the job market currently works in your area and your field.

Also, I would suggest getting some updated professional certifications if at all possible. I'm currently updating my MS certificates to the 2016 versions, for example. Or if you've spent the last couple decades using a single software package (Quickbooks, Sage, etc.) and are a whiz with it, go through a bootcamp program and get certified on that software. Updated professional certifications can help signal to employers that you're still actively engaged in professional development, have relevant skills, and are willing to continue learning and keeping up with more modern practices.

Alternately, you could re-train a bit for a career change. That could mean a complete back-to-school re-training, but it doesn't have to. I've been an office manager for years, but in our small business that's meant that I am also the HR director, the CFO, the IT department, the assistant PM, the community liaison, the purchasing officer, and the interim CEO when the owner is out of town or even just out of sorts. So, basically, I have the skills and experience to go into administration or management in a variety of directions. My local area has lots going on right now, and lots coming down the pipeline, that make project management a solid career choice. Thus, I'll be working on getting my PMP over the next year or so. You, too, need to figure out how your skills and experience might translate into a new career. Then take whatever steps are necessary to hone your skills, education, and certifications, in that specific direction so that you're a great candidate for jobs in that specific field.

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Well to answer your question and the others... I am 48 and live in Western Penn. I have been in the lumber industry, manufacturing. I have had a side business as a studio photographer for about 10 years. I have used indeed.com and look into the federal job agency website. I would like to stay where I am, but moving is not out of the question. The cost of living is low here, but its about a 1 hour drive to pittsburgh which I have considered. I have a degree in communications but I have been doing the job of an accountant fulltime for 25 years. I'd like to work in marketing but those jobs are hard to come by unless its $12/hour grunt job. I just can't afford to do that. Get back into photography is out of the question. I can't deal with clients again. I am completely been put off by non paying, irrational people. Product photography would be ideal, but there again this is not the area for that kind of work.
I was going to suggest Indeed.com. Have you posted your resume here: https://www.monster.com

Try this. May not be up you alley but it is nice to see if there are other alleys you can try going up:
Logistics Jobs | Transportation Jobs | Distribution Jobs | Logistics Job Board

It is tough out there. For me when I was 'relieved' of my duties(fired, downsized whatever) I spent my day like a work day. In front of my computer searching for jobs. I took a much lower position that I originally had to keep my head above water. It sucked too. Night work. Hate it. Kids to feed. Did what I had to do. But, I keep looking and interviewing. I got a great job after about 6 months. Keep at it! Something will come up.


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Well, in the short term, your bookkeeping skills could come in handy. Tax preparers, like H&R Block, are always looking for seasonal help this time of year.
Good thought. Start your own business. I know many who tax prep throughout the year. Of course April is the busy season.

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I think that we've had a bad economy for many years and it's made jobs very hard to get. I also think that the job market is biased against older people. I myself have been looking for a job for 5 years to replace the one I have now and have never been able to find anything. I have lost opportunities to many younger way less experienced people. It seems that experience is not as valuable as it once was. Companies seem to looking for younger less experienced employees they can hire for less money. This really worries me. I'm over 50 and need to work at least 10 more years before I will have anything close to what I need to retire. I guess that puts us in the same boat, I'm not sure what to do either.

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.... I'd like to work in marketing but those jobs are hard to come by unless its $12/hour grunt job. I just can't afford to do that. Get back into photography is out of the question. I can't deal with clients again. I am completely been put off by non paying, irrational people. Product photography would be ideal, but there again this is not the area for that kind of work.
Could you be self-employed as a marketing consultant for small businesses in your area? They invariably need some marketing help, don't know exactly how to go about finding it, and can't usually pay what large firms want to charge. I have a friend who makes a decent living doing that and supplements it with being a roving photographer for the local newspaper.

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Do you use the same resume for each job you apply for?
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You don't need your resume to be good, you need it to be outstanding. It might be worth it to have a hiring professional take a look at it and give you some feedback. The same goes for interviewing, in that you need to be in top form and it might be wise to get some outside help polishing those skills. Taking a course down at the local community college, or even online, might be useful in figuring out how the job market currently works in your area and your field.

Also, I would suggest getting some updated professional certifications if at all possible. I'm currently updating my MS certificates to the 2016 versions, for example. Or if you've spent the last couple decades using a single software package (Quickbooks, Sage, etc.) and are a whiz with it, go through a bootcamp program and get certified on that software. Updated professional certifications can help signal to employers that you're still actively engaged in professional development, have relevant skills, and are willing to continue learning and keeping up with more modern practices.
You put a great deal of thought into this post and I truly appreciate it. I have had others tell me to have a professional redo my resume for me. Its expensive and I don't think I can afford it right now. A good one in this area is probably around $300 I know people will say it will be worth it, but its a matter of paying the electric bill or having a pro do the work...

I have worked with Quickbook for YEARS!! I have never been certified, I work with all the MS programs as well as a lot of the Adobe stuff. Maybe certification in these areas is something to look into.

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