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What is this "dental plan" of which you speak? Mrs P's full implants were about the price of a BMW.
I mentioned what my husband's plan will pay - up to $1,500 per person per calendar year...and only 50% of a dental implant, still don't have any answer if they cover any of the bone graphing..... when I get my health insurance with Dental.. my plan will be "primary" for our children... I don't know yet if my plan will pay anything (??) ....

I understand for a BITE, a permanent bite.. this could be a huge issue for some, you don't want these falling apart, coming out...

In this situation...Older teen, wanting a better smile, for confidence reasons... not using this tooth for chewing 90% of the time...more for cosmetic reasons.....the "permanent" part is just less of an issue ....

I've posted on car threads here .. we own very old vehicles by choice-that way we have $$ for more important things .... so no way we'd be paying BMV prices for a dang tooth!

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I understand for a BITE, a permanent bite.. this could be a huge issue for some, you don't want these falling apart, coming out...
That's exactly what happened to her dentures (around $4,500 IIRC). After she chewed through her second set and the dentist told her to just eat mashed potatoes I called BS and look up a prosthodontist.

But, right for one tooth it is likely over kill.



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What is this "dental plan" of which you speak? Mrs P's full implants were about the price of a BMW.
So.. looking at these figures... are they about accurate each tooth approx $4,250 ? .... ..

No Dental insurance...so you paid ALL out of pocket ? You sound a great husband, not accepting the fate of the Dentist saying "all pureed for you Ma'am from here in"... taking the bull by the horns, seeking other options, even with the high price tag...so she can enjoy chewing her food again.... not that we think about such things much.. our teeth are awfully important...
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So.. looking at these figures... are they about accurate each tooth approx $4,250 ? .... ..

No Dental insurance...so you paid ALL out of pocket ? You sound a great husband, not accepting the fate of the Dentist saying "all pureed for you Ma'am from here in"... taking the bull by the horns, seeking other options, even with the high price tag...so she can enjoy chewing her food again.... not that we think about such things much.. our teeth are awfully important...
Yikes, no, not that much, she must have gotten a quantity discount. We did have to re-fi the house. She is very appreciative, but what else were we going to do?



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Yikes, no, not that much, she must have gotten a quantity discount. We did have to re-fi the house. She is very appreciative, but what else were we going to do?
Don't you own a manufacturing business, though, Charlie, and at least one vacation home in upstate NY? And didn't you mention how you would fly first class when you would visit your parents in Florida? Am I remembering that right?

Not that any of that does not make dental implants just as expensive for you as for anyone else here considering them. But it can take a larger bite out of some budgets than others, no?

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Re: Dental Implants /Bridges anyone ? What would you do for your young son?

My 25 year old son was also born with an adult tooth missing. It's never been an issue for him. I know the dentist told us long ago the baby tooth might or might not fall out, I have no idea if it has or not.

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Hell yes, have the implant. This is the kid's face!

My teeth were very healthy until I turned sixty. Then I started to lose them. I religiously go to the dentist and keep up with cleaning and maintenance.

The incisors are the teeth that we all see when talking to someone. They MUST be presentable. You want him to find a good looking mate? Then fix his teeth.

I have four implants and I am 95% happy with them. They are strong and unnoticeable. The only complaint. There is no cushioning with implants. They bear right on the jawbone. You can feel every bite. It can be a jarring thing. I have learned not to chew so hard. They are very expensive. To the tune of 2-3 thousand each, plus any bridgework.

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So.. looking at these figures... are they about accurate each tooth approx $4,250 ? .... ..

No Dental insurance...so you paid ALL out of pocket ? You sound a great husband, not accepting the fate of the Dentist saying "all pureed for you Ma'am from here in"... taking the bull by the horns, seeking other options, even with the high price tag...so she can enjoy chewing her food again.... not that we think about such things much.. our teeth are awfully important...
I had an upper molar pulled a few years ago. Now the other teeth have shifted and there is a gap between 2 that food gets stuck in. It's very annoying and I have to carry floss with me wherever I go and excuse myself to the restroom after meals at restaurants to do maintenance. Sometimes, it hurts. This wouldn't have happened had I gotten a flipper tooth, an implant, or other prosthetic to act as placeholder. This isn't just cosmetic. His teeth shift like mine did and it could cause him pain and aggravation down the road.

The bottom front 4 teeth are the ones that will eventually have to come out and be replaced. The dentist I spoke to about it quoted me approx. $10,000 USD for all 4 implants including the tooth removals, bone graphs, implant stud, implant, and even the office visit fees.

More food for thought...

He's young. His teeth are going to make a difference for a long time.

My mom was disabled and use her teeth to do a LOT. She would lift full coffee pots and pour herself a cup, pull on her clothes, etc. Her teeth and learning how to use them afforded her a bit more independence than she would have had otherwise. She had severe damage to her teeth caused by years of medications and had to have all of them removed. She got the implants and loved them until the day she died. She said they felt like part of her and that she forgot they weren't her real teeth unless someone mentioned it.

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It was around $4k for us too, around 2011. But we had awesome dental insurance and they paid 80℅ subject to annual caps. So the doctor split the work in two, prep billed in Dec and implant billed in Jan... Insurance company didn't complain 😀. One nice thing about working for a big pharma company.
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My husband had one implant in 2009 and it cost $6,000 in San Diego. He never had a problem with it, though. The next year, my sister-in-law had one installed and it cost the same in Los Angeles. She didn't have any problems, either.

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My husband had one implant in 2009 and it cost $6,000 in San Diego. He never had a problem with it, though. The next year, my sister-in-law had one installed and it cost the same in Los Angeles. She didn't have any problems, either.
Those figures are outrageous...if these were our Dentists, we'd be on the hook for $4,500 of that -in a calendar year.... no thank you.

I asked a former Dentist about this on the net... if they still do Maryland Bridges... his reply was:

"Dear ______

Dentists are still doing Maryland bridges. This is the best option for a lateral incisor, if you don't want your son to have an implant. Two metal-free materials can be used: high translucency zirconia or lithium disilicate porcelain (Emax). I recommend as #1 option emax porcelain. The reason is, the bond to the tooth is stronger with porcelain vs zirconia, while still having sufficient strength and good esthetics.

Another two new materials are available with applications for crown and Maryland bridge: hybrid ceramic (Vita Enamic) and zirconia-reinforced ceramic. However, I don't have long term observations with them. Although they are promising materials, my suggestion is still for lithium disilicate ceramic as a well researched material, proven to be long lasting. "

Sounds good to me..
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It was around $4k for us too, around 2011. But we had awesome dental insurance and they paid 80℅ subject to annual caps. So the doctor split the work in two, prep billed in Dec and implant billed in Jan... Insurance company didn't complain . One nice thing about working for a big pharma company.


So now we know why big pharma charges so much for its drugs.

I really doubt the insurance company pays anything. Your employer most likely is self insured and pays all the bills with the insurance company only processing the claims and helping to keep costs down through network discounts.

While YOU got a savings, it means someone else paid it.
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I would go with the implant, I am actually having one done now. A bridge makes no sense to me, why grind down two other teeth to build the bridge? I think the goal should be to keep your original teeth as health as possible for as long as possible.

I am concerned with xrays as well but honestly a couple xrays or even CT scans aren't going to hurt you in my opinion, though I wouldn't want to get dozens. They do the panoramic xrays at my dentist but I only let them do one every few years.

Cost wise my implant is going to be $3100, if I were to have a three tooth bridge it would be $2700. Then two of my healthy teeth would have crowns, that's the deciding factor for me.
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My oldest granddaughter was born with a cleft lip that interrupted the bone; she had no baby tooth, and no permanent tooth. She had braces and then a flipper until she stopped growing, and then the fun began. We consulted with several dentists; one recommended the Maryland bridge, but when we looked into it farther, we were told that they aren't reliable. She had gum graft surgery (which was a nightmare for her, poor baby) and then a bridge and veneers. Her smile is gorgeous and her self confidence shot up. It was an ordeal, an expensive ordeal (they had great insurance), but we believe the result is worth it. IF she had had bone there, or even something to graft bone to, we would have gone with the implant, but it wasn't a choice for her.
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