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Old 04-02-2012, 09:27 AM   #46 (permalink)
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You forgot: The rudest people in the world.
The only place where people are ruder is Israel.
It's a common error to think Sabras (Israelis) have bad manners. In fact Sabras have no manners. It's just something you have to adjust to. My youngest has been there many times and is dating a Sabra Druze.

In Switzerland my father was nearly arrested for crossing the street during a parade.
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It's a common error to think Sabras (Israelis) have bad manners. In fact Sabras have no manners. It's just something you have to adjust to. My youngest has been there many times and is dating a Sabra Druze.

In Switzerland my father was nearly arrested for crossing the street during a parade.
I've lived there for three years and had friends and romantic relationships there. I was never sure whether today would be the day I would lose it and punch someone. No manners? Damn right. But it's not endearing. The whole "Sweet inside, thorny outside" stuff lost it's mysticism for me by the second or third time someone walked into me and screamed at me for having been walked into at the same time (not kidding: I get off El Al, some older woman shoves her cart into my Achilles heel, and as I turn in agony and utter confusion, there she is behind me, screaming and motioning why I can't walk a little faster.)

And it's funny you should say that about Switzerland. I was there last October and almost got arrested for trying out a dab of a six dollar cream in a grocery store. I guess they haven't invented testers yet.

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I've lived there for three years and had friends and romantic relationships there. I was never sure whether today would be the day I would lose it and punch someone. No manners? Damn right. But it's not endearing. The whole "Sweet inside, thorny outside" stuff lost it's mysticism for me by the second or third time someone walked into me and screamed at me for having been walked into at the same time (not kidding: I get off El Al, some older woman shoves her cart into my Achilles heel, and as I turn in agony and utter confusion, there she is behind me, screaming and motioning why I can't walk a little faster.)
So you get it...There's two moving parts in a car - the horn and the accelerator. And there's no such thing as line to wait in, just a mob.

But to be fair in my hallowed old nation of ZA, people are for the most part smiling at you and pretending to be sweet as they stomp over you to get what they want. I was stabbed by an old lady who charged into a crowd with her umbrella like a jousting lance to buy movie tickets once. She seemed sweet enough about it but she was ready to kill. I've also been driven off the road by taxis, trucks, whathaveyou and they just smile and wave as the car goes into a ditch.
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So you get it...There's two moving parts in a car - the horn and the accelerator. And there's no such thing as line to wait in, just a mob.

But to be fair in my hallowed old nation of ZA, people are for the most part smiling at you and pretending to be sweet as they stomp over you to get what they want. I was stabbed by an old lady who charged into a crowd with her umbrella like a jousting lance to buy movie tickets once. She seemed sweet enough about it but she was ready to kill. I've also been driven off the road by taxis, trucks, whathaveyou and they just smile and wave as the car goes into a ditch.
That just reminded me: Have you ever been to an Israeli post office? "Who's next in line?" And then they sit down. There just are no lines.

But I get the tongue-in-cheek "no lines, just a mob."

And as for the smiles while they drive you off the road - welcome to the States, as well.
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Ah it's a cultural thing. My wife who speaks French fluently was ignored by this snippy cashier in a patisserie in Paris because she doesn't speak with a Parisian accent. Security had to be called. And in the Orthdox shul in Rouen the women are seated upstairs, old school style, and ignored and not given chumash so they take that opportunity to talk at full volume indifferent to everyone else. In fact it's kind of a Francophone custom to pretend to not hear people talking to you if they don't want to help you or serve you. Abidjan in Cote d'Ivoire is like that. Everyone walks around in blithe indifference to your existence.
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Ah it's a cultural thing. My wife who speaks French fluently was ignored by this snippy cashier in a patisserie in Paris because she doesn't speak with a Parisian accent. Security had to be called. And in the Orthdox shul in Rouen the women are seated upstairs, old school style, and ignored and not given chumash so they take that opportunity to talk at full volume indifferent to everyone else. In fact it's kind of a Francophone custom to pretend to not hear people talking to you if they don't want to help you or serve you. Abidjan in Cote d'Ivoire is like that. Everyone walks around in blithe indifference to your existence.
That's so they're closer to Hashem. That's what the Rabbi of my synagogue in Basel told me...


And what do you mean, security had to be called? Are you serious?
You were lucky they even served you at all there as a Jew. Wouldn't want to be living in France, I've heard horror stories. Not to politicize this thread.

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And what do you mean, security had to be called? Are you serious?
Yes it turned into a kind of brawl. People cross my wife at their own peril. She demanded an armed paratrooper in CDG airport during a terrorist outbreak in the 90's, light her cigarette while standing under a no smoking sign.


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I found that screaming at them in what little gutter German and Arabic I know put them in their place. I would not like to live there though.
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Yes it turned into a kind of brawl. People cross my wife at their own peril. She demanded an armed paratrooper in CDG airport during a terrorist outbreak in the 90's, light her cigarette while standing under a no smoking sign.




I found that screaming at them in what little gutter German and Arabic I know put them in their place. I would not like to live there though.
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For those who have travelled to Banff, We're planning a road trip there this summer. I'd like to get a few first-hand tips about what to look for. Also, I assume you camped there. What are temps like at night? (We're accustomed to camping in the Sierras and North Cascades, so we're okay with chilly nights ... just want to get an idea what to expect at Banff)
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Let's see;
Every state in the U.S. except the Dakotas, Missouri and Wisconsin.
Guam
Philippines
Japan
Korea
Norway
Spain
England
Italy
Bosnia-Herzegovina
Bahrain
Egypt
Djibouti
Kenya
Angola
Namibia
Sierra Leonne
Liberia
Equatorial Guinea
South Africa
Iceland
Greenland
Portugal
France
Truk Atoll

I think that's it so far...
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I have been travellling to the Basque Country-Spain, cause north seems way more appealing to me than the South and there is the Santiago de Compostela path...which is definitely one to take!
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I have been to:
Ft Myers, Florida
Ft Lauderdale, Florida
Sanibel Island, Florida
Parris Island/Port Royal, South Carolina
Almosteverywhere, Ohio
Almosteverywhere, Michigan
Almosteverywhere, West Virginia
Kansas City, Missouri
St. Joseph, Missouri
Columbus, Indiana
Indianapolis, Indiana
Greenwood, Indiana
Las Vegas, Nevada
Windsor, Canada

I've driven through:
Virginia
North Carolina
Tennesee
Kentucky

I want to go to more states/countries. I plan on going to Maine and Vermont at some point in my life. Also want to see Wyoming, Colorado, and the Dakotas. Washington State would be great too.
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Byorn, did you walk some of the path? I'd love to hear your stories!
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pretty much all of texas

New mexico
Mexico
Arizona
Colorado
Neveda
Oklahoma
Lousiana
Arkansas
Miss
Hawaii
Chicago
Michigan
North Carolina
South Carolina
Georgia
Virginia
California
Hilton Head Island
Florida
Washinbg D.C.
New York
New Jersey
Penn
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Put pics in the "Post your Travel Pics" thread, please.
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