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Old 05-21-2012, 12:06 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I sleep very little by comparison to most people I know. I've read recently that some of us are geneticaly wired to need less sleep. Some people apparently need as little as 4 hours. I can survive a few days on 4 hours, but over a sustained period, 6 hours is more like normal for me. If I go to bed and get to sleep at 10:00, I find I will wake up about 4:00 AM - just automatically happens. Are you refreshed when you sleep as little as you do?
Are you ME Shy_Guy.... I am like this, even at 45, I can stay up all night long without a wink of sleep and do pretty good the next day, especially if I was eating chocolate earlier that day, this seems to give me a boost of pent up energy I generally don't need. Sometimes I go to bed at 3:am and get up at 6:00..to cook his breakfast & get kids up. I know this is not healthy.. but I rarely need 8 hours of full sleep. My husband does though or he complains he is dragging.

He calls me the energizer bunny. We accually had this really silly argument a few months back, where he was seriously asking me when I slept. It is funny though, if we go to watch a movie together during the day, I will be laying on his lap, his fingers through my hair...and I am OUT.

Our routine is... when we go to bed together, and he starts falling asleep, I generally get back up & do stuff... I have made pies at midnight, washing clothes, I hop on here, it is 1:am now. Until I feel I need to go to bed. Or I stay in bed & read a book.. that always works like a charm after about 20 minutes. But I'd say at least 3 nights in the week I go to bed when he does....so I am still catching up.
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Kids in bed by 9. Glass of wine by 9:01, chill and hang out and in bed by 10, but asleep by 10:30
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I've been an insomniac since I was little - it's a lonely place to be (until I found these weirdos over the other side of the world who are up when I should be asleep!)

I had a bit of a nap last night from 10pm - midnight, woke up and didn't get back to sleep until 4am and am now back awake at 6am

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I'm the type that, while I no longer have insomnia, could be up all night if I allowed myself to. My husband is the opposite. And largely because of this, I notice that when I think I'm not tired for bed, once I do those 'wind down' type of things, I am actually pretty exhausted. The tester for me is reading. Most of the time, these days, I'll barely get beyond 4 pages and I'm out.

So it seems, for me at least, it's not that I've actually been that awake, it's more that I haven't allowed myself to recognize how tired I really am. We're on bat-time so don't let this confuse you with when I post.
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I sleep very little by comparison to most people I know. I've read recently that some of us are geneticaly wired to need less sleep. Some people apparently need as little as 4 hours. I can survive a few days on 4 hours, but over a sustained period, 6 hours is more like normal for me. If I go to bed and get to sleep at 10:00, I find I will wake up about 4:00 AM - just automatically happens. Are you refreshed when you sleep as little as you do?
I've heard of this as well,and if I'm not wrong men are more affected than women.Your age also plays a factor.The only time I get a relatively uninterrupted sleep is when I take a Gravol,but it leaves me a little groggy so I don't do it too often.
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I've been an insomniac since I was little - it's a lonely place to be (until I found these weirdos over the other side of the world who are up when I should be asleep!)

I had a bit of a nap last night from 10pm - midnight, woke up and didn't get back to sleep until 4am and am now back awake at 6am

*sigh*
I do exactly this same thing.... Up, take forever to get back to sleep, then up again... Sometimes it's the kids or the dog that wake me, sometimes I'm just up with no reason...
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:39 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Is working out an option? 20-30 minutes on a bike or tradmill reading a book, followed by a shower, cup of tea and you may pass right out
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My wife has found that melatonin really helps her. Also, since she doesn't spend much time outside, I encouraged her to get one of the newer light therapy lights and sit in front of it while she reads in the morning and afternoon. They are very bright, but they simulate sunlight. It seemed like her internal clock was off, because she would be wide awake at night, but sleepy during the day. She'll avoid anything with caffeine in the afternoon, and stay off the computer or TV a couple of hours before sleep. She is able to fall asleep a lot better.
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A glass or 3 or 4 of wine, and I'm out!
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Are you ME Shy_Guy.... I am like this, even at 45, I can stay up all night long without a wink of sleep and do pretty good the next day, especially if I was eating chocolate earlier that day, this seems to give me a boost of pent up energy I generally don't need. Sometimes I go to bed at 3:am and get up at 6:00..to cook his breakfast & get kids up. I know this is not healthy.. but I rarely need 8 hours of full sleep. My husband does though or he complains he is dragging.

He calls me the energizer bunny. We accually had this really silly argument a few months back, where he was seriously asking me when I slept. It is funny though, if we go to watch a movie together during the day, I will be laying on his lap, his fingers through my hair...and I am OUT.

Our routine is... when we go to bed together, and he starts falling asleep, I generally get back up & do stuff... I have made pies at midnight, washing clothes, I hop on here, it is 1:am now. Until I feel I need to go to bed. Or I stay in bed & read a book.. that always works like a charm after about 20 minutes. But I'd say at least 3 nights in the week I go to bed when he does....so I am still catching up.

Our patterns do, in fact, sound very similar, except that I don't fall asleep during movies ... I just can't sit still through very many movies. I do have nights where I go to bed until my wife is snoring (which she vehemently denies she does ), then I get up and write, or code, or work through something that's just been on my mind.
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I work indoors - but my cubicle has a nice sized window. Not sure if filtered sunlight is the same or not.

Have not been exercising regularly either. The only thing I feel like I do regularly lately is work extra hours.

How do we feel about exercising close to bed time? Does it wake you up or knock you out?
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Nice--two things that help me get awesome sleep:

a good workout and hot chammomile tea.

Turn off the phone, tv, music, wordly distractions.

As soon as you feel tired/sleepy, let it take the lead. Do not fight it.
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Nice777Guy, as I read through the progress of posts in this thread, I wonder if you may be talking about something different. Are you saying that you're fighting a battle in your mind, and you can't relax and let the battle go and get to sleep? If so, then that is different from what I was trying to talk to in my earlier posts in this thread. I do this sometimes, but it is a different situation. Exercise will help with this some (not too close to bedtime, though - too close to bedtime never helps), but exercise alone will not get me past it, and if I try to go to bed with that battle still raging in my mind, I will still be tossing and turning when the alarm goes off in the morning, and all that does is add to my level of frustration.

If THAT's what you're talking about then the approach I take is this:

It's usually after I've gone to bed that I realize it is something I'm not going to let go of. As soon as I realize this, I get up - staying in bed only prolongs it. These situations are always work related with me. What I do is get up and go work on an email or whatever form of communication would be appropriate for that, and I don't hold back. I let it go exactly the way it goes through my mind, and I continue on it until I've worked through my idea, and gotten it laid out. Once I've spent that emotion, I save the email: DO NOT HIT SEND THAT NIGHT!!!!!! Even in a job like mine, where open, straightforward disagreement is literally in my job description, I've found that hitting send on the nights when I'm like this is not the best approach (I wouldn't get in trouble for it, but I need to maintain relationships).

As soon as I've spent that emotion, then, I can relax and I find sleep pretty easy to find.

The next day, I look at that email or communication I wrote the night before, and I usually thank God I didn't send it that night. Then, I can edit it to be worded in a way that is more likely to get cooperation and be productive. I don't try to edit until after I've gone through my morning routine and gotten into a productive frame of mind - that's the time I trust that I will make the best judgement in getting cooperation. After that editing is done, THEN I will hit send.

As a matter of fact, just to avoid accidents, I usually write in Word the night before, and don't even put it into an email until the next day.

So that's how I deal with a battle raging in my mind that won't let me relax and sleep - different matter from just not needing much sleep.
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Wine always relaxes me and 1 glass is perfect right before bed. It does help me sleep better.
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Now... all i have to do is lay on the bed and I'm out like 10 to 15 mins later... toddlers + being pregnant + dealing with hubby is exhausting.

Before.... A glass of tequilla + margarita mix, a good book, lavender incense or sage incense, a candle for light and i was good.
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