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Old 04-01-2009, 11:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Let us all remember, that the bible, is not to be taken literally.

The bible also says, "spare the rod spoil the child" We all know that today, this doesn't mean beat your child with a rod. It simply means don't forgoe discipline and spoil your children. We make acceptions, and allowances for differences, in this day and age.

the bible also says, that for a man to lay with another man, is an abomination... thereby making homosexuality a sin. Do we as a society truly believe, or adhere to this? I don't, and most people nowadays accept this notion. I don't think gay people, are an abomination, or being sinful.

let us remember that the verse in the bible, is to be taken, not literally, and not practiced literally, but is meant to be a guide, a handbook so to speak, about how to live our lives. And even though we should heed carefully what the bible says if we are Christians, and do our best to live up to that, it doesn't mean that it is practical, or sometimes possible, to live by the word in the most literal sense. what the verse from Corinthians about man, wife, sex, and adultry really is saying, is that, the husband and wife should come together, in a mutually pleasing way, and mutually pleasing time. It is misleading to some, in that it's interpreted as meaning, one spouse should just give it up, or give in, every single time the other wants it. This is not reality, practical, or what the verse truly means. One must look deeper.
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That might be your view on the Bible, but it is not what most Christians view on the Bible is. And since its a book for their religion, they should be able to use it how they see fit no?

Many, many verses in the Bible can definitely be taken literally, not every verse in the Bible is "figurative" as you are saying.

Spare the rod spoil the child is an idealogy on discipline, and who's to say that if a parent does use a paddle (aka rod) that they are wrong?

Sorry, but one thing you won't convince anyone who truly reads and believes the Bible is that its stance on homosexuality is "figurative". You can choose to believe the Bible to be wrong in this area or not, that is up to you. Don't also confuse "society" as accepting something as ok to believe that the majority of people believe its "ok".

What "society" believes has 0% to do with whether or not you can take the Bible literally or not.

The verse in Corinthians says nothing about "mutually pleasing time" and no one is trying to say that the spouse who wants it less should give it up EVERYTIME, because like you said that's impractical and not realistic. However, the verse is most definitely talking about the spouse who wants it less should give it up more often than they want, at times when they don't want, they should not purposefully "withhold" at anytime, etc.

There are plenty of verses you need to look "deeper", then there are ones that if you keep looking you'll eventually twist the meaning so out of whack to suit your own beliefs when it was originally quite crystal clear.
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Old 04-01-2009, 01:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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you can "use" it however you want. If you're an evangelical Christian, then good for you. Make sure you give exactly 10% of our income, even if you can't afford it, make sure next time your kids get out of line, that you get that rod, and beat them. Make sure that next time you see a gay person, you reiterate to them, what an abomination they are.

You are clearly not able to distinguish between "purposefully " witholding sex , and someone who is doing it several times a week, and feels that is All they can handle without having other parts of their life suffer. And you're clearly not able to distinquish between what you call "witholding" from the obvious need of any couple, to have a balance, and to realize that neither partner is Ever going to get it, Every single time the urge hits them, male or female, and that there are plenty of times, life events, and circumstances that either prevent, or make difficult, or change, the needs of one, or both partners.

Whatever... that is all I can say. Good luck taking the bible literally. You're gonna have a mighty hard time with it. Even Jesus himself fell short at times, and even his Apostles, weren't always perfect. The bible was never intended to be a literal order of how to live, it's a beautiful book, written by Jews and Christians, about how to come to pure love, through God, Christ and the holy Spirit. And you don't come to pure, true, love, by taking every single thing in it literally.

But, like you said, you can view it however you like. It's a shame when this girls brother has cancer, all this man an do , is complain that he hasn't gotten sex in two whole weeks...

Talk about selfless love.....what a prime example this is...
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Old 04-01-2009, 01:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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1. Yes I do give my 10%, even when I don't think I can afford it.
2. When my kids get out of line they do get punished, it might be grounded from something, it might be time out (not usually, doesnt' work for them) it might be a spanking. It depends on the situation at the time.

3. I'm sorry, but with the last one about seeing a gay person on the street and callnig them out, you seem to have forgot the verse that sayd "Judge not lest ye be judged". While the Bible mentions certain sins, one of which is homosexuality, it also sayd that it would be just as wrong/sinful for me to "judge" said person and treat them any different for the way they live their life. I take that verse just as literally as the rest, and I don't treat anyone any different no matter what they do or believe in. I have very close family members who are homosexuals (1 is now dead from AIDS, other is my sister) and I NEVER changed how I treated them before or after they started living that lifestyle. Because the Bible is very clear, even though God sees certain things to be sins, doesn't give me the right to be the one that "judges" them since I am a sinful person myself.

4. You are right, Jesus' apostles weren't perfect, because they were human. However, you are wrong, Jesus never "fell short at times". If Jesus wasn't perfect then there was no point in him dying on the cross for sins. Find me one time in the Bible where Jesus "fell short".

Because someone "take the Bible literally" doesn't mean they are perfect or even close to perfect, humans are sinful creatures. No matter how litterally we believe the Bible its not going to change the fact that we will sin.

Also, about the girl and her brother, if you read my first post I said he needed to be 100% supportive of her in this time and drop the sex issue for now. Glad to see you are now not just attacking me, but attacking the OP in your anger. I can take it, I might even "deserve it" for not agreeing with your views, but he just came here asking for advice.
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Old 04-01-2009, 01:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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How Dare you? I did Not start this Thread.... I have no idea how you got into my personal box, to set this up. But, you have no right to do this....

To anyone who reads this. These are posts that I put in another thread. I had no hand in starting this thread. And I will find out how revitalized was able to hack into my account to do this. I cannot believe people like this actually exsist....
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Old 04-01-2009, 02:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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yes, thanks Chris. Amp told me already. I guess the post where revitalized said I was retarded for not knowing this, has been deleted. thanks for letting me know. I was not aware of the ability to do that.
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But someone it was my fault and I hacked your account...I'm sorry but that's too funny...
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You can take the bible litteral if you change the words "God" to Extraterrestrial and the word "Angel" to Alien.
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You cant take it literally, too many contradictions and it defies history and science

that is unless you believe God wishes to deceive and test your faith
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:25 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Fyi..this thread was originally from '09. OP is probably no longer here so I won't even address it.
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You can take the bible litteral if you change the words "God" to Extraterrestrial and the word "Angel" to Alien.
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:48 AM   #14 (permalink)
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yeah this thread was necroed... but the God in the bible is still the same one as 2009, right? And year 1 AD or earlier? the same poster also revitalized the ancient alien astronaut thread with a anti-religion quip, which I almost was going to reply to, because of that train of thought when I saw the title of this revived thread I decided to join in.

For me the bible is allegorical, there is a lot of wisdom in it, and I don't think it is divine truth, so I probably don't even have the right to call myself a Christian. I still appreciate and hold true most of the lessons in the bible, but it is not a complete comprehensive resource for life, nor is everything in it applicable to me. I will take what I want from it and leave the rest.
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For me the bible is allegorical, there is a lot of wisdom in it, and I don't think it is divine truth, so I probably don't even have the right to call myself a Christian. I still appreciate and hold true most of the lessons in the bible, but it is not a complete comprehensive resource for life, nor is everything in it applicable to me. I will take what I want from it and leave the rest.
I think exactly like you, I admittably "cherry pick" & make no apologies for it, I will even argue exactly why I do this & point out it is OFTEN against love & tolerance many instances to take a purely Fundamental view. I still admire much in that bible, many Proverbs, and I enjoy the Book of Ecclesiastes .

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So many ways to interpret the Bible ...some examples....


Literal: The Fundamentalist view

Historical Document

Midrash: Jewish Rabbinical approach to interpretation sought to understand the literal, and then expand the teachings to contemporary issues. "light to heavy"

Pesher: Exegetical method that suggests the prophetic writings contain hidden eschatological significance, or divine mystery. Jesus used this method on several occasions. (Lk 4:16)

Allegorical: Assumes the text has a meaning other than what the literal wording says---- a parable is a short allegory with a Moral meaning. Allogories are often used in Literature.

Typological: seeks to discover a correspondence between people and events of the past and of the present or future. Matt. 12:40 - Jesus parallels the experience of Jonah with his own death. Moses was a type of Christ, who brought the people out of bondage, and was rejected by his own. Isaac when he was offered up by Abraham.

Christological: Firstly, Jesus, and then the writers of the New testament had a decidedly Christocentric approach to Bible interpretation. Old testament passages were viewed in light of the new knowledge they now had about the person and work of the Messiah.

Functional: Fitting scripture into current day context, disregarding the historical context.
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