What makes me wonder if women are getting off more on the role reversal and making their husbands jealous -- payback perhaps for their guy's typical interest in looking at women and them feeling jealous -- is just the fact that male strip industry and porn for women in general is pretty much a failure. Playgirl shut down. Male strip shows are mostly not established clubs, like female strip shows. And a big chunk of female oriented sex industry is actually consumed by gay males.
It just seems like few women have the desire to actually pay to see naked men enough to make it a viable industry. So if women really got turned on and sexually aroused by watching naked men, there should be lots of businesses serving their needs. But there aren't. So I wonder -- are the number of women who are truly aroused at looking at naked men just very small? Is it merely pleasing to look at or a little naughty fun, in contrast to the compulsive nature of men's desire to see naked women.
I'm really curious -- if women are really as excited about Magic Mike as they claim, why is there almost no industry to serve their interests? It makes me doubt that women are really truly getting off to the extent that men do. Not being a woman, I am left wondering.
I think you've touched ona couple of really intersting things.
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a big chunk of female oriented sex industry is actually consumed by gay males.
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So if women really got turned on and sexually aroused by watching naked men,
(I'm going to use a lot of generalizations here, if you are outside the box you are outside.)
Women are visual, men are moreso. Men can use the visual element of sexual stimulation to a fuller degree than women often do. So, while ladies are visual to an extent, we aren't so much to the point that looking at naked men satisfies our sexual itch. It's why literotica is mostly female consumed, written words allows us to scratch our sexual itch better. It's why gay dudes love looking at other dudes the same way straight dudes like looking at a variety of women.
Magic Mike is awesome though because it's such a rarity and it is sexy in a way we don't often get to see.
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It just seems like few women have the desire to actually pay to see naked men enough to make it a viable industry
Lots of reasons for this, besides that women aren't overwhelmingly visually sexual that I can think of.
1. Women don't have to actually pay. Dudes get naked if we ask very easily. Have you ever been on Stickam? SO MUCH PENIS for totally free. I know it's essentially the same for porn on the internet for men now though but even in a wider arena men get naked for ladies if they ask (and like their bodies) at the drop of a hat. Shoot, even if they don't. Paying is seen as desperation way moreso with women than men which brings me to:
2. Women are judged way harsher for embracing their sexuality in such an overt manner. Playgirl in the bathroom? ****. Paying for porn? ****. Being in a manner that isn't carefully walking the line of madonna/*****? ****. Magic mike is safe because it's big budget and hollywood approved. Anything else and we risk losing our reputation. Bachelorette party male stripper? Safe. Visiting male strip clubs frequently alone? Desperate/****ty. Women and men question the motives of a woman who would do such things way more than they do dudes.
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Is it merely pleasing to look at or a little naughty fun, in contrast to the compulsive nature of men's desire to see naked women.
A little bit, yes. I don't think women are compulsively driven to see a variety of naked men, but we appreciate the opportunity do so in a socially acceptable manner. Unfortunately, that socially acceptable manner is still really really small.
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why is there almost no industry to serve their interests?
That's one thing. But what is with the taunting aspect? I couldn't image an ad for Showgirls or Hooters that mentioned your "girlfriend looking fatter". I've never heard any kind of taunt like that by men. They just like to look, no harm intended, and the jealousy it provokes is unintentional and much to their own dismay. Most guys wish their ladies were more understanding in fact.
So why would taunting men and making your guy
look "inadequate" be fun for women???
Every single day in so many ways we get "taunted" for not being slender enough, hot enough, big breasted enough, blonde enough, WHATEVER visually enough. It's just not as overt, it plays on and plays up our insecurities as women all the time.
Men get this too, don't get me wrong but it's almost never physically inclined (mostly financially and handy) and they don't get it to NEARLY the same extent women do. Catching up, but not even close yet.
Taunting men about their physical self is an advertising ploy that makes women feel a little better about the onslaught of physical taunting we get all the time. If Showgirls did so in an overt manner, it would have made no money for all the women giving men **** about looking at *more* examples of "perfection."
Why would a husband be jealous because his wife went to see it? He must be insecure if he gets jealous of his wife appreciating a sexy looking man. She's married not dead...she will be attracted to men other than her husband, but it doesn't mean she's less attracted to her husband.
Why do women get jealous of men watching porn? If I'd be upset with husband going to watch strippers, then I shouldn't be going to Magic Mike. If I'm ok then he should be good. All boundaries.
It's to call self esteem issue when 25 and everything sits where it should. But 20 years and 4 kids later and floppy baby belly and saggy boobs and wrinkly eyes - it would sting if your husband's ideal was Scarlett Johannsen knowing this isn't what you look like! Posted via Mobile Device
My wife and I saw this movie last night. We managed to line up a sitter and planned to go out on Saturday - without any firm plans. I had seen the ads for the movie and mentioned it to my wife in jest. Well, she took me up on it.
Hmm, what can I say about the experience?
- The movie was sold out. As a matter of fact, some ladies were upset because they bought tickets and could not find seats.
- The audience was 95% female. The few guys in attendance were accompanying dates.
- We liked the movie and, based on audience reaction, most in attendance did, too. It was actually pretty good (not Oscar material, but worth the price of admission).
- The movie did manage to flip gender roles in a couple of situations. One hunky guy gets used by a woman for sex because it's convenient and he's good looking. He wanted more in the relationship, she just wanted to have sex with a hunk. In another case, an older stripper is told that he's not bringing in the tips as much as he used to and maybe he's losing it.
- Lots and lots and lots of shots of buff guys dancing. If that's your thing, then go for it.
- One pretty funny scene in which a dancer throws out his back lifting a member of the audience (way to go, stud!)
So, did I feel threatened? No. My wife and I had a good laugh over the film (I even pulled out my bikini briefs when we got home. Hmm, time to cut back on the brewskis).
Would I have minded if she had gone with a bunch of her girlfriends instead? No. It's a movie. It's a lark. It's a chance to experience the male stripper thing vicariously and, at the same time, spend a little time thinking about the impact that the whole strip club scene has on the participants.
My wife and I saw this movie last night. We managed to line up a sitter and planned to go out on Saturday - without any firm plans. I had seen the ads for the movie and mentioned it to my wife in jest. Well, she took me up on it.
Hmm, what can I say about the experience?
- The movie was sold out. As a matter of fact, some ladies were upset because they bought tickets and could not find seats.
- The audience was 95% female. The few guys in attendance were accompanying dates.
- We liked the movie and, based on audience reaction, most in attendance did, too. It was actually pretty good (not Oscar material, but worth the price of admission).
- The movie did manage to flip gender roles in a couple of situations. One hunky guy gets used by a woman for sex because it's convenient and he's good looking. He wanted more in the relationship, she just wanted to have sex with a hunk. In another case, an older stripper is told that he's not bringing in the tips as much as he used to and maybe he's losing it.
- Lots and lots and lots of shots of buff guys dancing. If that's your thing, then go for it.
- One pretty funny scene in which a dancer throws out his back lifting a member of the audience (way to go, stud!)
So, did I feel threatened? No. My wife and I had a good laugh over the film (I even pulled out my bikini briefs when we got home. Hmm, time to cut back on the brewskis).
Would I have minded if she had gone with a bunch of her girlfriends instead? No. It's a movie. It's a lark. It's a chance to experience the male stripper thing vicariously and, at the same time, spend a little time thinking about the impact that the whole strip club scene has on the participants.
To me it is silly. I do think men and women are visual, but it seems because no one is expected to hold themselves and their behaviour in relationships to a high standard any more, that lots of women will behave just as men have been doing, and make justifications for it.
If men want respect, they need to treat women with respect, stop treating them like sexual objects and acting like it is a birthright to be a perv. If they did so then I can bet most women would also do the same.
While you make a good point, I'm not sure these are the same relationships. ie. couples where the man is going to strip clubs all the time, the woman is often more traditional. Couples where the women are very aggressive and acting out, the guy is often not doing those things and more progressive -- coparents, does chores more etc. So while women might be getting back at "MEN" in general they are often in fact getting back at the wrong man.
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I didn't get that either. If you are concerned, the ad basically says "Warning: Today ... your boyfriend ... may appear inadequate" with clips from the movie spliced in.
The taunting thing. The women who trys to make her boyfriend/husband feel bad is either a total ***** or the husband /boyfriend is overeracting. There is always to sides to the story? Do you ask how the movie was? Or does she just go on and on with out being asked? Also keep in mind not many movies come out showing off men's bodies. The same can not be said about women, they are everywhere.
Every single day in so many ways we get "taunted" for not being slender enough, hot enough, big breasted enough, blonde enough, WHATEVER visually enough. It's just not as overt, it plays on and plays up our insecurities as women all the time.
Men get this too, don't get me wrong but it's almost never physically inclined (mostly financially and handy) and they don't get it to NEARLY the same extent women do. Catching up, but not even close yet.
Taunting men about their physical self is an advertising ploy that makes women feel a little better about the onslaught of physical taunting we get all the time. If Showgirls did so in an overt manner, it would have made no money for all the women giving men **** about looking at *more* examples of "perfection."
How are women taunted? I don't mean figuratively taunted but literally taunted, as in "come to hooters, the waitresses have bigger breasts than your wife"? I never see anything like that. It's strange that women get off on that sort of message.
I don't know...men bashing women for thinking a buff guy is hot just seems really hypocritical.
Yeah, but this is circular. Women complaining about men looking at naked women all the time, and then women do the same thing when they get the chance. So men say, wait a minute, weren't you just complaining about objectification and unrealistic body images? Now you like it? Men's takeaway may just be what's good for the gander is good for the goose.
We'd probably all be better off if we could agree what is acceptable behavior, but often people get mired in double standards -- when I do it, it's no big deal, come on, lighten up ... when you do it, well, your an insensitive selfish jerk.
And keep in mind, I'm not complaining, but just discussing. If women enjoy it, more power to them. But people are always concerned about the implications and fairness and what their SO thinks, etc. So it's kind of an interesting topic.
A woman watching the Magic Mike movie should be no big deal for anyone. IF however, it encourages a number of GNOs where women decide to get into this life style then that would be a negative IMO. This will happen to some extent of course statistically. Wheter it is .001 % or 10 % who can say. If this movie provided such impetus I would suggest the marriage has some issues already.
Strip shows for women are about the physycal interaction of the audience with the strippers so a movie is pretty passive unless it was X rated I suppose. But even then it would not be the same as actually going to a show itself.
I took my wife to see Brides Maids and the audience was heavy with GNO groups expecting something else than what was delivered I suspect. I think we all expected there to be a wild bachelorette scene but it never happened. Maybe Magic Mike delivered on that but I will withhold comment until I actually see it.
We did go to the movies on the 4th and there was a long line for Magic Mike. No guys in the line at all. We saw TED BTW.
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