You do realize, that was NOT the right thing to say to her, right?
I don't really care. But if she is so angry, maybe she can get a divorce and then go through the whole outrage/disappointment thing with every other guy she meets in hopes of finding the magical mythical man who doesn't like looking at naked ladies.
There's nothing wrong with women looking at men's bodies. But the whole revenge/anger motivation is a big problem that might require therapy.
I don't think TRBE is doing it out of vengance or anger.
She just figured out that something that she thought was off the table is in fact on and her husband doesn't like the fact that when something is on the damn table, both people can see it, which is too bad for him not her.
I don't really care. But if she is so angry, maybe she can get a divorce and then go through the whole outrage/disappointment thing with every other guy she meets in hopes of finding the magical mythical man who doesn't like looking at naked ladies.
There's nothing wrong with women looking at men's bodies. But the whole revenge/anger motivation is a big problem that might require therapy.
Just for clarification:
Do you mean the men who don't watch porn?
The men who don't look at pictures of naked women in magazines, online, etc?
The men who get pissed off when friends send them naked or half naked pics of women?
You mean the men like my husband? And don't even try to give me the "he must be a closet homosexual" bs either. There are actually men out there who do NOT look at that stuff.
And, you can't make an assumption about someone who gets upset at subjects like this. Have you read her entire story? or just what she posted in this thread?
Personally, I just don't see what the fuss is about over this, nor those books. No plans to watch it at all. Now, if hubby says he wants to buy it for me when it comes out on DVD, meh, whatever. If he does, I will watch it with him. But I'm not the type to go out of my way to see some strange guy taking his clothes off, be it real life or on the movie screen.
I hadn't even heard of it until I googled it after reading this post! I never keep up on new movies or music though so I am always the last to know about these things.
From the small amount I read about it just now it doesn't look like my kind of movie so I probably won't watch it. If I wanted to my husband wouldn't care at all.
I don't see an issue with it. It's just a movie.
I hadn't heard of it either.
I'm extremely focused on The Dark Knight Rises!
I haven't read all the posts. I watched the trailer - don't see what the big deal is but it's not a movie I'd be into. I went to a strip club for my friend's bachelorette and it did nothing for me (or for most of my friends either). Sure, there are toned bodies. I can appreciate an attractive form but the whole experience was blech to me.
I'd rather watch The Full Monty and I ain't even lying
Having seen both movies, I can say that The Full Monty is the much better film. (Love the music in it, too. "I Believe in Miracles" by Hot Chocolate and "You Can Leave Your Hat On" by Tom Jones!)
Just for clarification:
Do you mean the men who don't watch porn?
The men who don't look at pictures of naked women in magazines, online, etc?
The men who get pissed off when friends send them naked or half naked pics of women?
You mean the men like my husband? And don't even try to give me the "he must be a closet homosexual" bs either. There are actually men out there who do NOT look at that stuff.
Okay, but you must admit he is clearly in the rare minority.
2001 research at the University of Vermont found that 98% of men fantasized about someone other than their partner. 80% of women did too. That's extremely high! And it's so common that I think people might want to be a little more tolerant of it, and a little less judgmental and a little less surprised.
Fantasizing in your brain is different than looking at porn I don't know what H thinks about, nor do I care. But he doesn't look at porn because he says it does nothing for him, he'd rather have the real thing.
Fantasizing in your brain is different than looking at porn I don't know what H thinks about, nor do I care. But he doesn't look at porn because he says it does nothinng for him, he'd rather have the real thing.
My H doesn't look at porn, nor frequent strip clubs. If he fantasizes, keeps it quiet and doesn't oogle women. Posted via Mobile Device
Okay, but you must admit he is clearly in the rare minority.
2001 research at the University of Vermont found that 98% of men fantasized about someone other than their partner. 80% of women did too. That's extremely high! And it's so common that I think people might want to be a little more tolerant of it, and a little less judgmental and a little less surprised.
Frankly, I don't put much stock into statistics. My reason for this is because the samples aren't always true to life. What I mean is that this particular survey was only 349 students and employees at the university. It doesn't take into consideration people from all walks of life. 349 is a very small number to say, statistically, "the majority of men (and women)" do this.
However, since this was published, and since so many have likely read this study... I think it is fairly safe to say that "the majority of those who read this article believe it is what the majority of men (and women) do...so I should be doing it too". So, no, I do not have to "admit that he is clearly in the rare minority". But, hey, I can say that my male friends are the same as my husband, but they are either
1. Clearly in the minority.
or
2. Clearly lying.
Right?
And, before anyone throws "anti-porn" at me... it doesn't work for us. I couldn't care less whether someone else uses/looks at it. Just don't try to bring it into my house.
There was a *lot* less stripping and a *lot* more plot than the trailers would have you believe. There is some very good dancing from Mr. Channing, and a few scenes involving guys in thongs. That's it. Really there was more flesh in 300.
When I was married, I never had an issue with H going to Hooters or similar places. He viewed strip clubs as a waste of money but I wouldn't have had an issue with him going there unless it became a financial strain.
Magic Mike wasn't a bad movie, and there was some good eye candy, but I think people are blowing it out of proportion. You can see more skin watching WWE wresting.
Okay, but you must admit he is clearly in the rare minority.
2001 research at the University of Vermont found that 98% of men fantasized about someone other than their partner. 80% of women did too. That's extremely high! And it's so common that I think people might want to be a little more tolerant of it, and a little less judgmental and a little less surprised.
Just because it's comman doesn't mean it's good or healthy.
There is a lot of stuff we are saturated with in modern day society that's not good for us.
We are saturated with porn, it is harmful. I feel very sorry for generations of young people who will never know what it's like to feel sexually safe and secure, to feel completely loved and connected.
Porn and fantasising about others does harm relationships.
Just because it's a norm now doesn't make it good for relationships.
Frankly, I don't put much stock into statistics. My reason for this is because the samples aren't always true to life. What I mean is that this particular survey was only 349 students and employees at the university. It doesn't take into consideration people from all walks of life. 349 is a very small number to say, statistically, "the majority of men (and women)" do this.
However, since this was published, and since so many have likely read this study... I think it is fairly safe to say that "the majority of those who read this article believe it is what the majority of men (and women) do...so I should be doing it too". So, no, I do not have to "admit that he is clearly in the rare minority". But, hey, I can say that my male friends are the same as my husband, but they are either
1. Clearly in the minority.
or
2. Clearly lying.
Right?
And, before anyone throws "anti-porn" at me... it doesn't work for us. I couldn't care less whether someone else uses/looks at it. Just don't try to bring it into my house.
Sure it's possible. But no offense, but as a guy, knowing guys, I find it hard to believe.
And the claim about not putting stock in statistics ... well, I have peer-reviewed science and many of you only have anecdote. I don't think this research is viewed as controversial at all in the scientific community. When I heard the results, it seemed entirely intuitive and fits with what most people tell me.
Also consider that when your husband tells you that, it might be under duress -- he might be afraid you'd be angry if he snuck a peak once in a while. In many ways, it's an unfair question. It's a load question, like asking how many previous partners you had. It's likely they know the "right" answer. So I don't believe they are able to freely answer under pressure, knowing full well your views on the matter.
But the bottomline is this from the study's author:
"Hicks stresses that "it seems likely that people do not realize how common it is for people who are in relationships to fantasize about someone other than their current partner.
"It may help men and women to better understand and relate to each other if there is a greater awareness of differences as well as similarities between them in what is sexually arousing in fantasy,'' he added.
Lastly, Hicks believes that the findings of this study may also be useful to therapists and other clinicians working with individuals or couples who feel guilt related to fantasizing about someone other than their partner, or jealousy related to the extradyadic fantasies reported by a partner.
"Having this sort of data available allows mental health care workers and the general public to gain a greater understanding of what could be considered normative in sexual fantasy and behavior,'' said Hicks. "
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