Is it true that there are boobs and no peen in this movie? That makes me so sad. I'd love to see a few A-list actors objectify themselves for "the craft." Posted via Mobile Device
I think we'd have to look more to the MPAA than anyplace else. While they don't automatically give an NC-17 to any movie with full frontal male nudity, their lenience seems to depend on the context of the scene. For instance, I doubt they would have allowed for Jason Segel's package to be seen for as long as I was in the breakup scene of Forgetting Sarah Marshall if it weren't a comedy and/or if it was a sex scene. By the same token, the vast majority of female nudity in movies isn't full frontal, but topless, and men go shirtless in movies all the time. Granted, doing so doesn't automatically guarantee an R rating, but, in the past, neither did brief instances of bare breasts (Airplane was PG, yet had a gag at the security checkpoint of the scanner showing women naked.) Generally, I think comedies get a bit more leeway, a feeling reinforced regarding violence while watching the Bjography channel's Inside Story: Scream this weekend. Director Wes Craven told the story of the movie getting an NC-17. Cuts were made...still NC-17. The MPAA was told that it was a comedy, not a horror movie. Suddenly, without any further changes, it qualified for an R. But I digress....
I've heard of many an actor saying they're willing to show the goods on camera. And, director Judd Apatow has said in at least one interview that he would be glad to put at least one full frontal male scene in each of his movies. I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's not anything I don't see on myself on a daily basis. Posted via Mobile Device
How did magic mike turn into a discussion on porn ??? I dont think MM is even close to porn or the porn I have seen good grief lol
I think it is a kind of porn. It gets some women aroused. Not all but some. Erotica is a kind of porn. (Seems to be a big trend in "mommy porn" with women going wild over this movie and the book, and eventually the movie of the book)The swimsuit issue is porn. Porn doesn't mean naked sex. It just means erotic and arousing. And indeed, clothed can be sexier than naked much of the time.
Like I said, we know what works for us. That's all that matters.
Good for you. If you and your husband are compatible on this, then that's great. I'm not trying to get into your personal business, but just discussing the issue -- how couples deal with this sort of thing. So your answers are interesting.
When I mention duress, here is what I mean: If you husband said he did look at porn, would you get mad or try to make him stop? If so, than he can't freely answer, and it might make people lie and give the "right" answer. Even if you don't say so explicitly, usually you can tell what your partner might think about it.
There are many such loaded questions that can put someone on the spot. Does this dress make me look fat? How many previous partners? Do you think my penis is big? Do you ever fantasize about someone else? Couples need to be both sensitive to each other and also as much as possible allow for honest answers. I prefer honesty where possible, but that also means allowing for an answer you don't want to hear.
When I mention duress, here is what I mean: If you husband said he did look at porn, would you get mad or try to make him stop?
Considering the things he and I have been thru the last couple years... no, I would not get mad or try to stop him. If that was what he wanted, fine. HOWEVER, if I'm not getting sex because of it, you better believe I'd be getting pissed. The thing is, we watch shows/movies that are on the fringe, but we watch them together. True Blood...Game of Thrones. So, it's not that we are opposed to naked/half naked bodies. Just that we agreed in the very beginning that we wouldn't use porn. If he changed his mind, ok, but don't f'n hide it. That's the same as lying to me. And he'd better be ok if I chose to "get into it" as well lol.
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There are many such loaded questions that can put someone on the spot. Does this dress make me look fat? How many previous partners? Do you think my penis is big? Do you ever fantasize about someone else?
The dress question: HELL NO the dress doesn't make you/me look fat! The big belly does that! Seriously tho, tests are stupid. You don't do sh!t like that to set your partner up to fall. Previous partners: I really wouldn't care if he had been with more women than just me before we got together. I'd want to know the real number, or as close to it as possible. Maybe I'm an oddity. About the penis size: Again, huge is over rated. I wouldn't WANT a large one. OMG! I couldn't handle it. "Average" is perfect for me. Fantasies: Seriously, who cares? I would never ask him that. I know men get, at least, fleeting thoughts of various women... Guess what? Often, we women do the same. Some men only fantasize about their wives. Some women only fantasize about their husbands. So what? What difference does it make to ME what some other man/women fantasizes about? What matters TO ME is what gets me going. And male strippers and porn don't do it. Nor do typical romance novels.
Anyway, as I said above... it seems EVERYTHING turns to porn here LOL. So now, Social knows more about my sex life than they ever wanted to know, right?
I think that sounds fair enough, as long as it is fair between both partners. Like I said, if you and your partner are happy, then more power to you.
Yeah, everything does end up becoming a discussion of porn. Or perhaps erotica, meaning sexually arousing material more broadly.
I think this is especially an interesting topic since erotica for women is a big trend -- or "mommy porn" as the media terms it. First we had 50 Shades, and explicit erotica being put in bookstore displays, atop the NYTimes bestseller list. Then "Magic Mike" bumping and grinding in a blockbuster movie. Next we'll have 50 Shades the movie ...
I have not seen the movie yet...I really want to just haven't taken the time. HB knows that I want to watch out and is completely fine with it. I don't compare him to any actor. I know that he doesn't compare me to any of his favorites actresses. So I guess for me it's just the eye candy.
Because it's not about seeing male strippers. It's about seeing Matthew McConaughey, Channing Tatum, et al stripping. Women love celebrities. I wouldn't walk across the street to see some random dudes I don't know take their clothes off. But Matthew McConaughey? Yes please!
Preselection .... just sayin. And nooooo. This may not be true for ALL.
This is part of the hooting and hollering and the mayhem that is displayed by the ladies at the male strip clubs.
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Eye candy. I enjoyed the movie, and have no guy whose face to rub it in.
Okay. If you had a boyfriend, and you saw the ad above, would it appeal to you? I'm just trying to understand why the marketing for the movie seems to emphasize schadenfreude and comparing the guys on screen to the guys at home.
Imagine the opposite scenario: A movie about female strippers starring Scarlett Johansen, Angelina Jolie, and other A listers comes out. The ads promoting it have the tag line: "Warning: This Friday your girlfriend may appear ugly". Now if I was a young guy and had a girlfriend, not only wouldn't I find that funny, but it would complicate getting said gf to be cool with me going to see it.
I don't quite get why this would appeal to women. Anyone understand the appeal?
Okay. If you had a boyfriend, and you saw the ad above, would it appeal to you? I'm just trying to understand why the marketing for the movie seems to emphasize schadenfreude and comparing the guys on screen to the guys at home.
Imagine the opposite scenario: A movie about female strippers starring Scarlett Johansen, Angelina Jolie, and other A listers comes out. The ads promoting it have the tag line: "Warning: This Friday your girlfriend may appear ugly". Now if I was a young guy and had a girlfriend, not only wouldn't I find that funny, but it would complicate getting said gf to be cool with me going to see it.
I don't quite get why this would appeal to women. Anyone understand the appeal?
Well, my question is this... do you think this kind of thing doesn't appeal to women in general? Because, honestly, I prefer SEEING rather than imagining. In my case, I prefer seeing my husband naked than imagining him naked. Regarding Scarlett Johansen, no, I wouldn't care as long as I am afforded the same privilege. See, there is one thing I have that she doesn't... my husband in my bed. I think, the way the movie is marketed in that particular ad, it appeals to SOME women. I think some are realizing that there ARE women who are more visual...and this particular ad points to that. But that's JMO.
Until I have come upon this thread, I never even heard of this moive, I still haven't taken the time to play any of the videos to even check it out, but I know I'll want to go, cause the subject matter sounds interesting to me. I want to see what all the Hoopla is about....and judge for myself.
Generally me & my husband go to every movie together, we wait for them to hit the $1 theater months later... I guess he'll look pretty strange walking into this one with me, so I'll have to drag some gf's instead.
He wouldn't care if I enjoyed this at all. He happily let me go see the Chippendales.... it was funny, cause he asked me what I thought when I got home and truthfully, I wasn't impressed, those men are far too muscular for my tastes. ... And he said that is what he thought I'd say! He knows me like the back of his hand. Not my cup of java... I doubt Magic Mike will do much for me either.... but I am curious.
I think, the way the movie is marketed in that particular ad, it appeals to SOME women. I think some are realizing that there ARE women who are more visual...and this particular ad points to that. But that's JMO.
But that's not what the ad is about. The ad is about mocking men and deliberately comparing them to the guys on stage.
It is actually not celebrating women enjoying eye candy in an affirmative way. It's more like their pleasure has to come at someone's expense. Their gain is someone's loss.
Enjoying pleasure and comparing/mocking people are not the same thing. When I eat chocolate ice cream, I like the flavor. It doesn't make me want to trash talk vanilla. Both are tasty.
But maybe for some women, liking one thing means it diminishes the other thing. Like if you like your husband's body, you don't want to see any other men. But if you like another guy's body, it makes you think your husband's is not that good. It's just a guess.
Really, until you posted that trailer, I hadn't seen that one. Moot point for me, but really, I don't pay attention to trailers like that. The more I read the others posting here, the more I think hmmm...maybe I will see it... in time... in my home....with my hubby, if anyone. But I still won't be going out to watch it for $9/ticket. Not worth it to me.
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About the penis size: Again, huge is over rated. I wouldn't WANT a large one. OMG! I couldn't handle it. "Average" is perfect for me. Fantasies: Seriously, who cares? I would never ask him that. I know men get, at least, fleeting thoughts of various women... Guess what? Often, we women do the same. Some men only fantasize about their wives. Some women only fantasize about their husbands. So what? What difference does it make to ME what some other man/women fantasizes about? What matters TO ME is what gets me going. And male strippers and porn don't do it. Nor do typical romance novels. 
