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Old 11-06-2008, 10:52 AM   #196 (permalink)
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yes hate is a strong word.
but my statement as per usual was taken out of context.
i dont hate and i mentioned it in the form ppl love you or hate you.
it was said in general.
look at the ppl who condemed either party.
look at the ppl who loved either party.
and honey i never said you hated obama either.
i think whether its political or religion ,
my feelings or thoughts dont seem to count .
the best part is i have no religion and i have no interest in politics.
were talking in general on topics.
can we not just do that without ppl attacking me.

of course its wrong for someone to get hurt or killed, again research proven assassination is a common attempt on presidents,
JFK, bobby K , attempt on ronald regan and more.

i wanted obama to win and that is my thought if thats ok.
i dont care if hes green with purple spots.
but when mistakes and yes there wil be many in his presidency, whether it was him or the 43 presidents before him.
none of them wil be 100 % . who is?
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:28 PM   #197 (permalink)
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You werent misunderstood justean.. but nobody was attacking you.. maybe you should not htink that sopmeone is after you. Honey wasnt saying its wrong to kill agaisnt you, but in general.
So what you reproach him to do, you did.

but assassination is not a common attempt on presidents..
its more common to get robbed and kill in the street as non president than it is to get killed as president. 2 of the 3 cases you mention, were exceptional and governemental, as internal dirty work. And thats the 2 alone cases where the guy was assasinated.

I think some words are missing from yoru sentence, after 100%. It sounds like the sentences need an end.-.

If you have no interest in politiic, then why did you wanted obama to win? Thats a very political act to want someone as president. So you aint so apolitical as you think you are.
And none of us here cared if he was black aor white, even if you even feared to even mention it as black, but it actually meana lot to many, and to the world to. Its the first american president of his kind and it couldnt be more menaingfull for us all and ofr the descendent of the slave and for all the americans age 40 and over, who were born under apartheid and when it was still forbidden for black to vote. As it was for only 50 years ago.. Blcak can vote since 40 years in the USA, only 40 Years, and in many astates they had to wait til 30 years ago beofre they could actualy do it, as they were met with agression whne meeting up to the voting offices.
Still only after 30 years, they got their man as president. Not bad. I htink that its the most important and gfood part abotuhtat election: that its a black american who get elected.
The rest, his politic, we dotn know a thing abotu uit. All in Europe are enthousiastic about him as they were about Clinton, cause of the utopians wrods thsoe both gave, and all the ideals they came with. Both talk of the exact same things btw, and were both elected ont he same thing, and clinton even relected, even he didnt accomplished any of those things.
But we in Europe loved Clinton and most still do. So they think too that they are democrate because they imagine that the democratic parti is like our socialist partui in disguise. Well its not. The democratic parti is what we call our konservative left wing.
That Obama make mistakes doesnt matter. If he will actualy do what he promised everybody to do, is what matters.
I dont see why you are so stingy about it justean. The guy is elected president and thats what you wanted to. So why arent you happy?
Even i dont beleive him, i am very happy for all the black americans. Thats a very important time for them. A black women who is over 116 years old and was there under slavery, voted that day. And Obama mentioned her in his speech to the nation, by name, and she was also there, on the stage, after he had been elected president. So you had the ex slave and the black president side on side.
I dotn think any hournalist catched that. But i did. It was and is very important that an african american sit at the post of USA president. Its a milestone for many, as well white as black.
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:53 PM   #198 (permalink)
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yes hate is a strong word.
but my statement as per usual was taken out of context.
i dont hate and i mentioned it in the form ppl love you or hate you.
it was said in general.
look at the ppl who condemed either party.
look at the ppl who loved either party.
and honey i never said you hated obama either.
i think whether its political or religion ,
my feelings or thoughts dont seem to count .
the best part is i have no religion and i have no interest in politics.
were talking in general on topics.
can we not just do that without ppl attacking me.

of course its wrong for someone to get hurt or killed, again research proven assassination is a common attempt on presidents,
JFK, bobby K , attempt on ronald regan and more.

i wanted obama to win and that is my thought if thats ok.
i dont care if hes green with purple spots.
but when mistakes and yes there wil be many in his presidency, whether it was him or the 43 presidents before him.
none of them wil be 100 % . who is?
No one was attacking you, hun. You have the right to pick who ever you want to, as well as the ones that like McCain have the right to say they like him. Although, this wasn't the case in some places. I heard that these kids were all talking about Obama in school, because this one kid in the classroom was talking about McCain, he got move by the teacher to set someone else. Ok, some people had their McCain lawn signs messed with, and now I hear too that you don't have the right to say you were for the other side. What ever happened to freedom of speach, or in this matter, choice? Why is it ok to talk only about Obama 24/7, and saying the name McCain is like saying the F word in school? Yeah, things are going to change, but it seems like people's rights is the first thing that is going to go, if it hasn't already.

Let's see..our values and morals are now gone. They want to take God out of people's life, and now you don't have the right to say who you are for. Can't put signs in your yard, or talk about the other side...w/o being punshed for it. Oh how lovely people have become.

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Old 11-06-2008, 01:15 PM   #199 (permalink)
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That sounds extreme. I think that things have become too extreeme in the US. on both sides.
But who get clenched are all those in the middle, and looks like many on obama side are too one eyed.
its always been easy to get young to jump on the wagon of hope and promises, and ideals, as its what all want.. while older and wiser, usualy know that its just words unless you have a solid plan to can make it real. Menaing that soemoen is trying to cheat you with make believes. So in place of a good plan they just say they are right and yes we can, all that jolly good but going nowhere than making split in the society by creating 2 camps.. where one is seen as evil becuase they dotn support the ideal.. People should know better. The real good cant be achieved unless we are together.
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Old 11-06-2008, 02:56 PM   #200 (permalink)
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ok i agree im probably crap at saying things. lol or explaining them.
why obama - well i suppose in terms of of youth. new fresh ideas. for reasons of not showing to be racist , that all ppl deserve a chance.
i dont like politics as much as religion, but i stil have a viewpoint.
if i could have one wish, it would be for world peace.
and i really mean that.
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:03 PM   #201 (permalink)
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ok i agree im probably crap at saying things. lol or explaining them.
why obama - well i suppose in terms of of youth. new fresh ideas. for reasons of not showing to be racist , that all ppl deserve a chance.
i dont like politics as much as religion, but i stil have a viewpoint.
if i could have one wish, it would be for world peace.
and i really mean that.
Standing up for what you know is right, and telling the truth, doesn't anyone a racist, hun.
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:19 PM   #202 (permalink)
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i think thats what i seek for myself and my children.
stand up for what i feel is right and tell the truth.
i want to try and install good morals and values into my children.
if you really knew me, i actually get on with so many ppl. but i make an effort to accept ppl for what they are as i expect ppl ,not to have to like me, but to respect me. well to a degree n e way.
although i bet some staff in work have a voodoo doll in the shape and form of JUSTEAN and have a couple of pins spare incase they run out. LOL
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i think thats what i seek for myself and my children.
stand up for what i feel is right and tell the truth.
i want to try and install good morals and values into my children.
if you really knew me, i actually get on with so many ppl. but i make an effort to accept ppl for what they are as i expect ppl ,not to have to like me, but to respect me. well to a degree n e way.
although i bet some staff in work have a voodoo doll in the shape and form of JUSTEAN and have a couple of pins spare incase they run out. LOL
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:36 PM   #204 (permalink)
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I htink you are imagining things jestean.. you kind of imagine that everybody is agaisnt you.. like here.
On one hand you say that all are entitle to have an opinion and that you have the rigth to have yours, but on the other hand, when you se people differing form your own point of views you imediatly fear that they are agaisnt oyu and imagine that they actualy are, and set up all worse case scenarios..
You dont have to.
Its not cause i am not you or dont say amen to all you say and do that i got a vodoo doll somewhere..
nor does it mean that i am agaisnt you..
you dont have to justify yourself so much justean.. in fact, you dont have to justify yourself at all..
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:03 PM   #205 (permalink)
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oh ****** your so sweet.
its my nature im afraid.
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:10 PM   #206 (permalink)
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how are your kids going? are they in bed now?
or is it your husband who is taking care of them?
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:17 PM   #207 (permalink)
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well at this moment its 22:00 hours and today was a busy day.
i had to attend a mandatory manual handling study day. it was good.
finished at 3.30 pm. picked up my youngest from school football 4.15. 5.30 pm my eldest son had a comprehensive presentation.
its a personal presentation from child to parent on school.
he was fab.
that finished at 6. at 7 our children go to boys brigade.
its a church based thing, like scouts. they do loads and its a good group of ppl.
my boys love it. that finishes at 9pm. and they go to bed half an hour later. but this is only on a thursday.
my H is as this moment on the settee watching saw 4 , the horror movie, which i dont do.

so what about your day?
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:25 PM   #208 (permalink)
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I spend my day working in the house and arranging financial papers and making phone calls of the strenuous and borrign kind..
i had to do soem errands out too but it wasnt that much.

I enjoyed that free day without too much noise around..
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:36 PM   #209 (permalink)
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well my free day starts from tomorrow until monday, when it starts all over again.school, work.
tomorrow weather supposed nice, so im going to take children to school. go for a horse ride and my H asked me out to lunch.
i dont feel good at the moment. feeling the being trapped within a relationship bit.
but its bin a hardish year this year for us.
but i wil go for the lunch as its time for ourselves.
adults no children.
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:39 PM   #210 (permalink)
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It sounds good. why trapped? you are married arent you?
you dont want to be married anynore?
Is it why you come here?
To be away from him a bit?..

you told me 2 weeks ago that you loved your husband and that he was your prince charming, sounds like you were talking about someone else or that you changed your mind..

whats wrong in your relationship?

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