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post #286 of 295 (permalink) Old 02-27-2018, 10:44 AM
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My best friend and business partner is a gay woman,we have been through so much together and lived together for years,she is my daughters godmother and is very close to the rest of my family.Her family completely disowned her when she came out and even now almost sixteen years later she is hardly ever invited to family get togethers and never gets a card from her parents on her birthday or at Christmas.
They did everything in their power to make life as difficult as possible including refusing to allow her to go to college and when she eventually got away from them she didn’t go home for years.
I accompanied her back to her home for weddings on a few occasions and I was initially welcomed with open arms because her parents thought we were a couple but once I made it clear that we were just friends I got the cold shoulder.

As far as gay people being more likely to be victims of child abuse I can’t in all honesty agree with you.I know an awful lot of gay people and I don’t think child abuse was any more prevalent with them than with straight people.But from living in the UK I know that outside of the major cities,homophobia is a serious problem at least compared to the US.

I was looking at Sky News earlier from London and the weather in the east of the country looked bad.I’m not sure what area you are from but hopefully you will miss the worst of it.
That's interesting because I haven't found homophobia to be much of an issue here. In fact gays/transsexuals are almost treated as hero's by most of the rich, famous and establishment here. However if you speak out against gay marriage you are attacked with foul and offensive and vitriolic language and can even loose your job. No one cares how Christians are treated.

You may not know if people have been abused. Most people don't go round telling others. I have people in my family who were abused and they tell very few people.

We have helped many of these young men in one way or another, and they have been open with us about their past.
I read some time ago a study where counsellors said that the percentage of gay man who had been sexually abused was higher than hetro-sexual men.

We have friends in Texas and homophobia is rife there. Far far worse than here.

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So I finally got a reply from the pious flirt after the group leader had spoken to him. The group leader had communicated with my wife about some study material she was interested in and also said she had spoken to him and he was sending me an email to apologize and invite me to Bible study. I don't see any apology or acknowledgment anywhere in his reply. I see a whole lot of talk with an "I'm sorry you feel that way" at the end. I've crafted a reply, but have yet to send it. It accepts none of it and calls him out on the perfunctory response and lack of acknowledgment of what he did.
@Andy1001 since you, like myself are a fan of irony, look at the curriculum for the study group he's inviting me to, as well as the fact his douchey ass is inviting me to the bible study (like he's in charge), and telling me how "non-threatening" it is, but I'm SURE glad he holds no ill will towards me. Some serious tone deafness. I'm absolutely certain that he would never have replied had the Group leader not spoken to him. That conversation also got his wife going to the study group now.
Hmmm ...I wonder why?

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It took me a while to decide if I was going to respond to you because I didn't feel as I had done anything wrong and I didn't understand why you had sent this email. I hate that you have any inclination that I have an interest in Mrs. RC as this is so far off of my feelings for her. I look at her as a sister in Christ and that is as far as that will ever go. I love my wife although I do not have the perfect marriage we all struggle at times. I don't have any ill feelings for you or for Mrs. RC and I would encourage you to join us on Bible study nights as we are starting a new study on foundations of honor which is designed to strengthen relationships. Mrs pious flirt actually joined us last night and I am very excited to have my wife now in the study with me. We are a very tight nit group Rubix Cubed and we only lift one another up and encourage each other in the study. Our study is a non threatening environment not like some Churches and we all feel open to share and do what we can through the power of God to help one another. This is what the Bible instructs us as believers to do. I hope you would seriously consider joining us on Bible study nights. I apologize if you felt any threat from me or any email I may have sent your wife. I can assure you there was no intent on my part to go after your wife. God Bless you and Mrs RC and your family.

"But I'm trying, Ringo. I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd."

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I think you just need to move on now.
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He is a huge piece of **** 💩!

I have run into his type many times and I have no problem intimidating the hell out of them.

It seems your wife is part of a highly "religious" group and that is no compliment.
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So I finally got a reply from the pious flirt after the group leader had spoken to him. The group leader had communicated with my wife about some study material she was interested in and also said she had spoken to him and he was sending me an email to apologize and invite me to Bible study. I don't see any apology or acknowledgment anywhere in his reply. I see a whole lot of talk with an "I'm sorry you feel that way" at the end. I've crafted a reply, but have yet to send it. It accepts none of it and calls him out on the perfunctory response and lack of acknowledgment of what he did.
@Andy1001 since you, like myself are a fan of irony, look at the curriculum for the study group he's inviting me to, as well as the fact his douchey ass is inviting me to the bible study (like he's in charge), and telling me how "non-threatening" it is, but I'm SURE glad he holds no ill will towards me. Some serious tone deafness. I'm absolutely certain that he would never have replied had the Group leader not spoken to him. That conversation also got his wife going to the study group now.
Hmmm ...I wonder why?
Could you post some of **** breath's offensive emails?

If I missed them, I'm sorry but I loathe people like him and hope to find you leverage against him.
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Could you post some of **** breath's offensive emails?

If I missed them, I'm sorry but I loathe people like him and hope to find you leverage against him.
I appreciate the thought, but I already feel like I may have posted too much. The one email I have is basically him saying he'd vouch for where she was after she vented about how I blew up when she was 2 hours late(usually home by 9:30 didn't get home until 11:30) from Bible study at church. Their group leader was copied on that email as well, so I'm less inclined to believe that something happened, but she still told stuff about me in her vent that should have stayed between us. She admits she told him other stuff but can't remember what it was.

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I appreciate the thought, but I already feel like I may have posted too much. The one email I have is basically him saying he'd vouch for where she was after she vented about how I blew up when she was 2 hours late(usually home by 9:30 didn't get home until 11:30) from Bible study at church. Their group leader was copied on that email as well, so I'm less inclined to believe that something happened, but she still told stuff about me in her vent that should have stayed between us. She admits she told him other stuff but can't remember what it was.
Selective amnesia is very handy in these cases.
Rubix in my honest opinion you should insist your wife break all contact with these sanctimonious *******s.The worst possible outcome would be for you to attend any “classes”.Remember you would be the student and have to sit back and listen to their bs.
And Mr Pious would take delight in talking about your shortcomings.
This is my final word on this subject.If your wife can’t do without these people then maybe she has to do without you.
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Selective amnesia is very handy in these cases.
Rubix in my honest opinion you should insist your wife break all contact with these sanctimonious *******s.The worst possible outcome would be for you to attend any “classes”.Remember you would be the student and have to sit back and listen to their bs.
And Mr Pious would take delight in talking about your shortcomings.
This is my final word on this subject.If your wife can’t do without these people then maybe she has to do without you.
That's where we are. If this guy leaves the class then I would be OK with her attending and would consider attending myself. I don't judge the whole class on just him, but could not attend (especially in the mindset I should be in) if he were there.

e.t.a. If he did leave, and I went to find they were all like him, my attendance would be very shortlived.

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I think you just need to move on now.
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I think I was well on my way to moving on, and then I got that sanctimonious reply from him, that coupled with my wife trying to explain his mindset(the why's) to me, set me back a bit. I sent my reply and I expect that will be it, as he seems to be fairly cowardly about responding to me. No contact between her and him will be in place and we will go from there.

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How would you judge that verse and others that say the same thing? I am no theologian but the Bible is pretty clear on how we can be saved.
God tellsus how we can be saved and its up to us to accept that or not. If you think that judgy take it up with Him.
None of us wants, desires judgement.
From God, from our fellow men.
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This is why [a biggie reason] religion is on the outs, 'ooots' in Scotland.

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Have some....
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